What are this ref's initials?Quote:
Originally Posted by 'El Nino'
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What are this ref's initials?Quote:
Originally Posted by 'El Nino'
He'd be the main man in Dallas !!! :-)
Guys can we give the refs a break?
They dont go out intentionally to have bad games!
Its not them that are committing leg breaking tackles!
Its a tough enough job id imagine, its easy to point and criticise.
we've all been in matches were refeering decisions have gone both with and against us.
All you can do is get on with the game, no amount of abuse is going to change his mind (players shud realise this around U12s...)
Now im not saying refs should be absolute from blame, im sure there is some some sort of monitoring system from the league....
If a ref is not fit to ref then it is the leagues fault for hiring him(who can blame a guy 4 trying to make a few extra bob da weekend?). I wasnt at that match mentioned above so i cant possibly comment but to have to 2 first time posters come on and post after it seems like a bit of a knee jerk reaction.
in my own opinion if you deserve to win a game, you will win it..... no matter how bad the ref!
P.S. i'm not a Ref :)
Wouldn't say he is a bad ref. In my opinion he is one of the better ones and might just have had a bad day at the office. Seems fairly approachable tooQuote:
Originally Posted by 'El Nino'
I wasnt at the game and had nothing to do with it but I agree with HAVE IT, he's a nice guy and never delibertly goes out to have a bad game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Have It
Yes, you are right referee's do have bad days and you have to say fair play to them for doing the games every week with the abuse they get and of course it's handy that they get a few pound as well. This is a big but, but would you actually have to have been at the game just to see how unfair this man was on this day, the Glin boys could not believe it, that he was so one sided.
I was talking to a few of their men on the side line and they thought it was disgraceful and you know that they don't say these things lightly. Yes you should win those games when you deserve to but with football you never know.
Shannonside were comfortable at 2-1 and then that decision cost them 2 points. So you cannot say that the referee can't decide who wins games or not.
So in my opinion the referee did screw Shannonside and I hope it does not cost them the league cause they are a good side.
lads quick question...why are glin so bad all of a sudden??? was it only 2 yrs ago they won the desmond cup and were they in contention for the league last yr??Quote:
Originally Posted by 'El Nino'
They lost the 2 Sheahans would be 1 reason
The man made 2 major mistakes in the last few weeks that ultimitely knocked Rathkeale out of the MJC and could cost Shannonside the league.Will we just say nothing about them and forget they happened at all!!??Quote:
Originally Posted by snafu
Hard to win a game with 5 min to go and a peno is awarded against you for absoluetly nothing.
Ya the ref's are watched by a ref's inspector and what a good ref he was in his day.. We could talk about bad ref's all day. The fact is there are too many BAD one's and not enough good one,s simple as..Quote:
Originally Posted by snafu
Can you make a constructive suggestion for improving the situation?Quote:
Originally Posted by sky blue
The fact is that the referees have nobody to answer to, yes there is an inspector but has there ever been a ref stood down for a week because of a terrible decision, I can't recall 1. Teams train hard all season and 1 call can deny maybe a deserved cup or league. Perhaps if there was somewhere that the clubs could complain to with genuine problems, not just a dodgy offside. Clubs are slow to go to the league commette as there is never any follow up as there is a shortage of refs already, thats the answer given. IMO this wuld improve the standard of refereeing in our league.Quote:
Originally Posted by the 12 th man
Until there is a bit more respect shown to refs and younger men (who could keep up with the games a bit better) encouraged to take up the whistle we're going to stay where we are.You can only tell refs where to go when you have a surplus of them and then you can pick and choose.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoyBlue
All things considered though you still see the so called top professional refs in the Premiership/Champions League making howlers so there's no perfect answer.
Desmond Cup 1st Round
Bally Rovers 7 0 Killeaney
Desmond Cup 1st Round
Newcastle West Rvs w/o from Breska Rvs
Bally Rovers 7 Killeaney 0
Creeves Cel w/o from Newcastle West
Carrig Celtic 1 Rathkeale 2
Desmond U-17 Cup 2nd Round
Broadford Utd 1 Kilcornan 2
Seems everyone is moving up a year to come in line with the rest of Europe. Basicly 7 year olds will be playing under 10 next year but, crucialy, still playing against other 7 year olds as the 9 year olds will be gone up to under 12 and so on along. Its just for one year only, then they'll all be back correct in their age groups next year. In the case of 17 year olds, they would have no higher group to bump up to hence the establishment for one year of an Under 19 league. Without that 17 year olds would have nowhere to go except junior soccer and God knows enough give it up after Youths(18's) level but those 17 year olds would have this U19 league to bridge that gap.
I think its the obvious thing to do, no problem with it. Did I explain it properly/clearly?Quote:
Originally Posted by last man back
Lads the refs are not paid officials at all. The make mistakes which do cost teams matches but to say half way through a season that it has cost shannonside the title is a joke. If shannonside win the rest of their games then they will be champs and thats that, dont and they leave the door open for other teams to win it. Can blame a ref for losing you games you should win anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'El Nino'
To El Nino and Sky Blue i didnt hear ye complain too much a few years ago when ye scored the equaliser against NCW in the league playoff when most of ye admitted that at least 4 players were off-side for it. Now that was a decision that cost a team a title, cause that was the match for the title.
Refs can be good and bad, we just have to keep playing and do our best. Whinning like 5yr old's ain't going to get you nothing
Heard this morning ncw beat broadford 2-1 and shannonside beat ncw rovers 1-0..any truth in this
Premier Division
Adare Utd 1 Killeaney 1
Glin Rvs 1 Rathkeale 0
Shannonside beat Rovers 1-0
Desmond Cup 3rd Round
Askeaton 6 St Itas 0
Newcastle West Rvs 0 Shannonside 1
Carrig Cel V Rathkeale B (Rathkeale B won on pens)
Ballingarry 1 Glin Rvs B 2 aet
Premier Division
Adare Utd 1 Killeaney 1
Glin Rvs 1 Rathkeale 0
Division 1
Athea Utd 5 Pallaskenry 1
Abbeyfeale Utd B 3 Kilcolman Rvs 3
Division 2
Feenagh V Granagh Utd off
Creeves Cel 2 Newcastle West B 2
Division 3
Mountcollins 1 Broadford Utd B 2
Adare Utd B 0 Askeaton B 5
Shountrade 1 Ferry Rngs 0
Division 4
Glantine B 4 Newcastle West Rvs B 0
St Itas B 0 St Bens 0
Athea Utd B 2 Carrig Cel B 0
Pallaskenry B V Shannonside B off
Glin rovers b 2-1 ballingarry
What a big shock...looks like rathkeale are in trouble this year over losing to Glin Rovers A today 1-0..I think they are bottom of the table!! I could be wrong..any reports from other games?
Rovers v shannonside was a very tight game. Goal came 20 minutes into 2nd half, ball took a deflection from a shannonside strike and trickled into the corner of the net
No of course not!Bring it up with league commitee at the next meeting... but there is a shortage of refs already and seeing the amount of abuse they get week in week out i cant see many young fellas signing up to be refs... i know i wouldnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'El Nino'
Sunday 20th march
Munster Junior Cup Quarter Final (extra time & penalties)
Abbeyfeale Utd V St. Michaels 230pm (L. O’Connor, J. Roche, B. Barry)
Weekly Observer Desmond Cup 3rd Round (extra time & penalties)
Rathkeale V Old Mill 1130 (D. O’Gorman)
Adare Utd V Rockhill Rovers 215pm (D. O’Gorman)
Weekly Observer Premier Division
Broadford Utd V Newcastle West Rovers 1100 (J. Roche)
Killeaney V Askeaton 1130 (G. O’Connor)
Glin Rovers V Newcastle West at Lanterns Hotel pitch 1130 (P. Manning)
Weekly Observer Division 1
Kilcolman Rovers V Athea Utd 1130 (S. Hartnett)
Glantine V St. Itas 230 (P. O’Connor)
Carrig Celtic V Ballingarry 2pm (G. O’Connor)
Weekly Observer Division 2
Ballysteen V Knockaderry 1130 (P. King)
Granagh Utd V Rathkeale B 230 (P. O’Brien)
Creeves Celtic V Breska Rovers 230 (T. Fitzmaurice)
Feenagh V Newcastle West B 230 (C. Dalton)
Weekly Observer Division 3
Adare Utd B V Broadford Utd B 1130 (P. O’Brien)
Bally Rovers V Mountcollins 1130 (P. O’Donnell)
Ballingarry B V Askeaton B 1130 (C. Dalton)
Ferry Rangers V Glin Rovers B 2pm (P. Manning)
Weekly Observer Division 4
Shannonside FC B V St. Bens in Shanagolden 230 (S. Hartnett)
Pallaskenry B V St. Itas B 1130 (P. O’Connor)
Friday 25th March
Reidy Cup Final
BIT OF HELP PLEASE
Note from viewing Tralee Dynamoes thread, they have a team photo from 1968, titled Desmond League Tuohy Cup winners.
Was this a knock-out cup or the trophy for the then league winners. Aware the league website does have a detailed honours board from the early 1970's, but the prior period dating back to the league formation is undocumented. As the league history states league commenced mid 60's. Known that Tralee possibly Killarney participated in Desmond prior to establishment of Kerry League in 1971.
Can only assume that any Desmond clubs in existance (Askeaton, Adare NWCTWest) prior to commencement of Desmond League would have participated in the Limerick league, would anyone know of any successes in the Limerick league ? eg Prem League , Lawson Cup winners.etc
Why is P.O Brien doing a Div. 2 and Div. 3 game this weekend after doing a Premier game last weekend.?Just wondering how do they allocate refs?
Best of luck to Abbey Sunday against St Michaels.
histronut this cup was caledd The Murphy Cup not the Tuohy Cup which is a Limerick City Cup.
Rathkeale are 50 years in existance this year.
I dont think any desmond league team would have played in any of those competitions.
[SIZE=2] The founding teams were Askeaton, Killonan, Newcastlewest and Tralee Dynamos.In 1971 the clubs from Kerry left the the Desmond League to form the Kerry League however as new clubs emerged in the Desmond catchment area the League expanded to four separate divisions.These four teams contested the first league championship which was won by Killonan. The Munster Football Association presented the league with a junior challenge cup. The first winners were Newcastle. The original management committee comprised the following: [/SIZE]Quote:
Originally Posted by historynut
[SIZE=2]Liam McKenna, J.P Walsh, Joe Downes, Jack O'Rourke, John E. Barrett, Sean Fitzgerald, Ed. Moloney and Michael Mulcair.
Newcastlwest and Foynes played in the Limerick league for a few years as I can recall
Thanks for answers. Appreciated
Desmond U-17 Cup Q/F
Rathkeale 2 Kilcornan 1 aet
Desmond U-17 Cup S/F Draw
Creeves Cel or Bally Rvs v Athea Utd
Rathkeale v Carrig Cel or Abbeyfeale Utd
Does anyone agree that the standard of the Desmond league has deteriorated greatly over the last few seasons?
lets face it shannonside who are leading the premier are a fairly average team with less than average players...........is this team really going to represent us well in the munster senior if they win?????????????
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Originally Posted by Jumper
All junior teams are gone from the Munster Senior cup now they have formed another cup just for Junior teams.
Yes the standard is slipping and with the ammount of lads who have left and are planning on leaving for Australia doesn't help but I suppose every league is having this problem. The youths league is a shambles and doesn't look good for the future teams giving walkovers week in week out makes the future look bleek.......
if your saying that shannonside are a very average team then what are you saying about all the teams below them .remember they are unbeaten this year in league and desmond cup so they cant be that bad.
any one got any idea whats the story with league cup ,games are starting to bad up a bit,they should run it off during the week in clonreask pitch,its wasted there not playing any games on it.if they had a couple games there during the week t wouldnt take long to run it off for all divisions
League games left to play - Premier (44) Division 1 (30) Division 2 (35) Division 3 (27)
Division 4 (13)
The very best of luck to Abbeyfeale United tomorrow against St. Michaels hopefully they will get a good crowd and support from Desmond league followers kick off 2:30 :ball: