So let me get this right, two Derry players taunted the crowd when we equalised, and thats okay, but Georgie taunting the away crowd is fair game? (I don't care if you didn't see it, we did as it was right in front of us)
Clearly Cork logic.
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So let me get this right, two Derry players taunted the crowd when we equalised, and thats okay, but Georgie taunting the away crowd is fair game? (I don't care if you didn't see it, we did as it was right in front of us)
Clearly Cork logic.
No, thats not alright. When did I say it was? George can be a prat. He gets the stick he deserves for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Mind you, its exactly what he's looking for. There's nothing would cheer up Georgie more after that night than the sight of Derry fans going to their bus singing "George O'Callaghan drinks and drives" when they could be celebrating their own team.
Thats because Paddy dosnt act the **** on the pitch, GO'C isnt fit to lace Paddy McCourt's boots. Some crying done by the langers.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by twowheelsonly
How many times has Paddy McCourt seen 90 minutes of football against Cork City?Quote:
Originally Posted by City till I Die
Let me help you to get this right.....Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Two Derry players abused the crowd in an extremely provocative and possibly dangerous manner....
Georgie taunted the Derry crowd - read the thread, not a single post mentions that it's 'fair game'.
We all know he does it, we never said it was right but it does happen. In fairness to Georgie it's usually in response to being taunted himself, you know that and we know that. Gazza did it, Rooney does it. Cantona did it in the extreme. Some players seem to feel obliged to react while others can ignore it like water off a ducks back.
Doherty on the other hand, or any other Derry player, had received no provocation whatsoever and was perceived as being unsporting in the extreme IMO.
McCallion, to his credit, was an instantaneous reaction, seemed to realise what he had done and left it go. I don't think anybody really had a problem with him.
You're going to have to help me further by differentiating between abusing and taunting.Quote:
Originally Posted by twowheelsonly
Are you Paddy McCourt yourself? Nice sidestep.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Taunting is playful banter, whereas abuse, thats with malicious intent.
Bloody whinging ****ies. If you can't take it don't dish it out, and to say the Shed End didn't give Gerard or Eddie any stick on Friday is absolutely ridiculous.
Paddy doesn't get gip because he plays in the spirit of the game, and doesn't deliberately go out to wind the opposition and their fans up.
Enlighten us?Quote:
Originally Posted by pól-dcfc
Whats that got to do with anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
Thank You. Anything thrown at either player was in the spirit of banter and could be considered banter. What Doherty threw back was nothing less than abuse. It's a regular thing for the banter and taunting to work both ways, hence we don't make a point of 'whinging' (or winning!:o)every week. Abuse is a different story, can't you at least concede that???Quote:
Originally Posted by pól-dcfc
Paddy doesn't get gip because he doesn't react so there's no fun in it. same reason opposition fans don't abuse Neil Horgan or Mick Devine etc to the same degree as Georgie. Simple as.
For a player who apparently so obviously outshines GOC, he has an awful habit of being subbed or dropped against Cork City, the games where I get to watch him. Completely ineffectual again the other night and Derry didn't look dangerous until he was taken off.Quote:
Originally Posted by City till I Die
Can't believe that there's a 3 page thread about this but anyway; I assumed that Gerard must have been getting some sort of stick by the Cork fans behind him. If it was completely unprovoked then it was out of order and not within the spirit of the game but FFS get over it!!
Course it is. I'm sure Georgie loves being reminded on national television that he's a convicted criminal of a rather heinous and shameful variety.... :oQuote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
You need to lie down Gavin - you're winding yourself into an illogical frenzy here now.
*Sigh*. I guess it was only a matter of time before the famous Cork whinging got directed at Derry fans, as well as the rest of the world....
I can't belive there's Derry one's slagging people from another city about whinging. It's our speciality ;)
I'm at a loss to be honest. Either I'm lying or George himself is lying when he has said as much so pick one because you seem pretty fixed in your viewpoint.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
fans?Quote:
*Sigh*. I guess it was only a matter of time before the famous Cork whinging got directed at Derry fans, as well as the rest of the world....
Ridiculously subjective assessment.Quote:
Originally Posted by twowheelsonly
From what I can see its banter when a Cork player does it but its abuse when a Derry player does it.
And no, I can't concede anything, presumably because I lack the ability to spilt hairs that you clearly possess.
Let me re-iterate, Georgie gives the fingers to Derry fans after Cork score right in front of us (thats banter, according to you).
Eddie and Doherty do something similar in front of the Shed and thats abuse.....
You seriously have a warped sense of morality if you can differentiate between those two actions.
But you're a Cork fan, so nothing surprises me....
Fair point. I mean - who could accuse a convicted drink-driver of something as basic as lying...Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
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Yes they are - seriously yourself and the rest of your lot are embarrassing yourselves on here. I can safely say that when we abuse a player we know whats coming when he scores against us, then we give more for it :D - (though we wouldnt throw a broken vodka bottle at it for it like the cork fans did to dan connor)- but we'd would always hold our hands up and say among ourselves straigth away that we deserve it. If ye cant take it, dont give it ye big cry babyQuote:
Originally Posted by joey4ireland
btw joey go to drogs forum even last week when the conicted drink driver was giving us the fingers and the w@nker sign for the whole 2nd half - every drog on our mb has no problem with it cos of the abuse he got for the whole match
It took all of us to throw it, did it? God only knows how Connors survived.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmo
And if we'd been abusing Doherty or McCallion all match it wouldn't have been so strange (the point of this damn thread) to see them do it.Quote:
btw joey go to drogs forum even last week when the conicted drink driver was giving us the fingers and the w@nker sign for the whole 2nd half - every drog on our mb has no problem with it cos of the abuse he got for the whole match
First time that's been mentioned. If it's true (and I have no reason to believe that it's not) then yes Georgie deserves to be abused and villified, as I and other Cork fans on here have already stated and readily understand. BTW, just looked at the video there again and if that did happen then it must have been the quickest flick of the fingers ever cos GOC took off after Mooney immediately and ended up at the far end of the pitch with him. A little different to jumping up and down screaming and gesturing at opposition fans methinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Now explain to me again the justification for Doherty and McCallions actions.
As another poster stated, if it had been ongoing for the whole game then this thread would never exist.
What did Doherty actually do?
Celebrate or make gestures or what.
It seems to me that it was a very low notch on the scale of inciting fans.
I don't see the problem. Unless he actually slapped George . . . . then he should be suspended.
Mere winding up of opposition has more to do with respect than the rules of the game. However, If you get caught up in that charade, you're taking other risks. George talks **** in papers about clubs etc so he gets taken out off the ball and gets oppositions fans attentions for the full 90 minutes. Dan Connor spent years goading the shed and ended up getting a glass bottle thrown at him.
It's the costs of being a *****.
Turned and faced the Shed after the final whistle with his arms raised in celebration. Sarcastically applauded them when being jeered going in the tunnel as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Risteard
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Originally Posted by twowheelsonly
"Whats it like to have a queen"
Now if you think that wasn't provoking the Derry players then you need to read your history books.
FFS we had to listen to that chit in Windsor pk. Didn't expect it in the so called "rebel county"
Agree with Candystripe. Its "OK" for Cork fans to sing a politically sensitive tune to a team that have ALOT of local players, but God forbid someone punches the air and gives them....wait for it...oooooh noooo TWO FINGERS. Poor little Corkies, how offensive is that??? Hope you get some medication for the PTSD.
You wanna talk about provocation? Walk through the Bogside singing yer wee "Queen" ditty and then you'll find out the real meaning of inciting a "dangerous situation" through provocation.
"Rebel" County? Yer havin' a laugh. :rolleyes:
No, it was mentioned, by me, on previous pages.Quote:
Originally Posted by twowheelsonly
Yes he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by twowheelsonly
Make up your mind, you just said you've no reason to to believe that it didn't happen. I'll take what I and the rest of the Derry fans say over what you didn't see on the TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by twowheelsonly
No idea. That wasn't my point. My point was there's no difference between what Georgie did and they did, except for the fact Cork were at home and they did it at the end of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by twowheelsonly
Some Cork fans were p*ssed off they conceded a 94th minute equaliser (which is fair enough, I would be too) and thats why this thread exists.Quote:
Originally Posted by twowheelsonly
Some? I'd say all to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Walked out at full time, sick, left the Derry players to celebrate.
If everyone had done the same then they'd have had no one to goad.
Its all give and take.
Spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
We've had it happen to us and the opposition fans and players celebrating turns your stomach.
But thats football.
My God - that's shocking behaviour ! Bring back hanging.......!Quote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Come on now steve, even you should know that they don't do that in Cork . They ambush you and shoot you in the back, they don't hang you.:p:p
So by this logic we are entitled to throw vodka bottles at boy george in utd pk next time we play the langers ? And theres a reason boy george gets the attention of opposition fans , if you go around doing interviews on local radio stations saying " I would have went to Drogheda but i havent got enough fingers or toes " your gonna get lots of attention . He has actually created a potentialy dangerous situation with comments like that .But i suppose we shouldnt be in any way surprised by this .Convicted drink drivers are never the smartest of people . I wonder if boy george knows about the sellafield connection to his toes comments .NASTY .Quote:
Originally Posted by Risteard
:rolleyes: watching on the telly were we?Quote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
Do you not understand the difference between the effects of inbreeding and radioactive poisoning. Christ you'd swear Drogheda was in Belrus the way ye go onQuote:
Originally Posted by ndrog
We'll have to give Adi Roche a shout.Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
I remember 3 seasons ago we had just beaten Shels 2-0 at the Brandywell, and Pat Fenlon was down applauding the Shels fans, he walked up along the Southend Stand and goaded the fans, he gave as good as he got. Did you see any Derry fan on here crying about it, no, so change the record FFS!!!!
No, I was there.Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
So therefore you are saying that a professional footballer representing a professional club (George O'Callaghan) said on RedFm that Drogheda people are in-bred and he finds that hilarious?Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
Ask him to be brave and say that on LMFM or on RTE and see where it gets him.
And you whinge about someone celebrating a goal against you:rolleyes:
And I'll bet you what you like that he was getting it first before he threw it back . Regular occurence at all grounds (Especially with that Poison Dwarf:D)Quote:
Originally Posted by City till I Die
and nobody really takes any notice, it's more or less accepted by everyone. Doesn't make it right but it is part of the game.
Trust me CTID that this was in a different category.
If one of our players (OK so, THAT player:rolleyes:)) had done the same thing we would be the first to call him a plucking clanger.
No, we whinge about getting ott 'in your face' abuse from a professional footballer representing a professional club. And it was after the final whistle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
And generally speaking we're all the same in that regard, give it-take it end of story. (The Vodka was for Georgie BTW,)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmo
So I take it all the fans offended by Gerard Doherty's actions will not be returning to any LOI games in the future in fear of their little feelings being hurt. Jesus Christ boys, grow a pair of balls ffs.