That doesn't re-write history or erase their very clear Irish heritage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fingal hoop
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That doesn't re-write history or erase their very clear Irish heritage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fingal hoop
Indeed. There are many in Celtic's ranks who wouldn't be there without the whole sectarian tomfoolery, and would hate the day they couldn't hate Rangers fundamentally because they're prods.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
But that's all for another sub-forum..... :ball:
dcfcsteve, before start bad mouthing me, understand where I'm coming from. I've family who live in the Sunderland area. My Grandfather & Dad have been travelling over to Sunderland since the 60's. I've a lot of mates over there & have friends who live in Ireland who come from Sunderland. I've mates who are born & bred in Newcastle too.I know a hell of lot more about Tyne & Wear than you do. My neighbour is from Gateshead & he's a Newcastle season ticket holder & one of my best mates. If you really did live in either Sunderland or Newcastle you'd understand the passion of the people for there cities & there football clubs. I know plenty of people from Sunderland who work in Newcastle & who work for Northern Rock or Sports World. But plenty of people work from Cork & Meath work in Dublin it doesn't mean they like the place.Yes I'm Irish by birth but my background is Sunderland.
And if that dislike stems from rivalries with Dublin sports teams then those people are idiots.Quote:
Originally Posted by SunderlandBohs
Sunderlandbohs you are clearly a genuine football supporter and the difference is that you have an interest in the Eircom league.When the Irish influence is gone from Sunderland, you will still be their fan while the recent Irish people going over won't.The problem is the thousands of Irish people who consider themselves knowledgable football
heads who will not for love nor money attend games of Irish teams.If your football interest is soley devoted to watching it on the telly with a couple of trips over every season then how can you be a real fan ffs.
The ones who really get on my nerves are the smug faces in the pub when England are getting beat yet will not cross the road to watch their local team.The knock on result is poor media coverage, little influence on Gov investment, no tax incentives for potential investors and Irish football suffers.
Enjoy watching The Premiership by all means(people in other countries do)
but if your a real football fan then you should also support Irish football teams.
I think craze is the wrong term. This is more like a Sunderland fad as will soon be over when people realise there are better random English clubs to choose.
Think about it. Since you have no connection to any Premier League club you get to choose. Why choose a rubbish team from North East of england. At least pick a team who can win games or from big city with good shopping...
:rolleyes:
The media are making the whole Sund-Ireland hype sound great & there's huge interest over here. But it's just a little interest in how they're doing. If we're still struggling by Christmas the hype will be over. These people only follow sucessful football clubs, something in which Sunderland hasn't been in over 50years. Most of these people will never step foot in a LOI ground & to be honest we don't need them. When you look at Sweden, Norway & Denmark, people follow two teams. One local & one foreign. Why can't it be the same here?
Good example. Scandinavians seem to be as much into the EPL as anywhere. In fact probably more english games shown on tv over there too.Quote:
Originally Posted by SunderlandBohs
True but at least they support their own team first. Not all Scandinavians support two clubs. As Dolan rightly said "You cant support two clubs".Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
KOH
They are, but, Scandanavians have decent support at their games thus have a higher standard of football than here. They have better stadia and don't have €10,000's coming out of it's economy from people who refuse to invest their time and money in anything local. They have a distict passion for their own local clubs AS WELL as EPL team. They will not laugh at someone for supporting their local team. I don't have a problem with guys supporting English/Scottish teams if they support their own firstQuote:
Originally Posted by pete
As long as we have our dinner at home it doesn't matter where we get our appetitie. ;)
You mean as self confessed Arsenal fan Dolan said...Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Exactly, and you can be sure they dont have the same cringo phone in shows like Today fm have after 5 on a sat with irish 'fans' of liverpool/man utd and even lower div sides like wolves, chartlon (I have heard them) calling in from kerry/mayo etc, all using the 'WE' term when going on about uk football.Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
The every same morons would be down their local and would be anti england when they play international football.
Total embarrassment
Dolan likes lots of clubs - Arsenal, Walsall, Reading, Wexford Youths, Rebel Army, Derry City. But, as he said, he doesn't like St. Pats - he LOVES St. Pats. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
He also seen at Finn Park every now and againQuote:
Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
All true. See my sig.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
KOH
He's only human after all...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
that does sound a bit fickleQuote:
Originally Posted by SunderlandBohs
i dont think there is anything moronic about following the progress of one of Irelans greatest football players, for many he is a legend. end ofQuote:
Originally Posted by jebus
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Originally Posted by bennocelt
he is a Bohs fan ffs! :D
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Originally Posted by jebus
but it does cast a shadow on the claim that hibs are the true irish team in scotland
maybe the Irish in glasgow had it ougher than those in edinburgh & thats why they cling on to their roots more-
why would someone in Dublin support a louth team?Quote:
Originally Posted by robbiesdrogs
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Originally Posted by bennocelt
i find it hard to equate legend with a man that dresses as a leprechaun and runs around temple bar- good holding midfileder ( are we one of the few countries in the world where a player who stops others playing is a hero)- yes- traitor -yes- self important-yes- cork ****-yes
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Originally Posted by Fingal hoop
World Cup 2002 qualifiers
Roy 1 Portugal 1
Roy 1 Holland 0
the stuff of legend
Well done, another thread that has descended into Keane the traitor vs Keane the saviour.
Give yourselves a big clap on the back :rolleyes:
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
as apposed to a slap
Ah come on, it lasted 3 whole pages withiout going near it first!Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
We did have a nice little argument about who knows more about the Sunderland area between two people who have never met each other though :rolleyes:
My last post on this matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by SunderlandBohs
You claimed non Siunderland fan would set foot in Newcastle, which is patently nonesense. You yourself have stated that above, as you know Makems who work etdc in the Toon.
I'm not being pedantic here - but to claim fans of one team wouldn't set foot into another town who's economic, social etc fortunes their home town is so intricately inter-twinned with is just pure bravado nonesense. Saying they don't like the town, as you now do above, is a whole different matter.
I don't know if you know more about the North-East than me, but I know that I used to live and work there, and that I've had business operations there for over a decade now, which means I have an extremely good knowledge of the area. I go to Dublin a hell of a lot, have family and friends there etc, but I'd never claim to know the city as well as any English-speaker who'd spent a decent period of time living and working there...
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There's plenty of 'Dubs' who are are originally form outside the City, and even more Dubs born and bred who's parentage is elsewhere on the island. There's an opportunity there for non-Dublin clubs to get their support. City have a couple of high-profile Dublin fans, for example. If I moved to Dubland, my kids would be brought up City fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fingal hoop
GAA is a sport where the whole county boundaries thing is sacrosanct, but soccer is a lot more fluid than that (as support of foreign clubs shows ! :eek:).
A lot of people from Balbriggan would consider themselves closer to Drogheda than Dublin. A lot of the old Balbriggan crowd would have been born or have family in Drogheda. I do a lot of my shopping & go out in Drogheda more so that Dublin. But the main thing is they are following a LOI team. I don't think it matters where they live. dcfcsteve, do you realise how sad we are having a debate on a League of Ireland website about two cities in England?
Plenty of Waterford fans that live in Kilkenny or Wexford. New Ross is closer than Dungarvan, as is Mullinavat or Mooncoin in Kilkenny. As steve says, it's only the GAA that operate on an intercounty level.
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Originally Posted by bigmac
South Tipp too, as evidenced by our esteemed leader, Mr. Delaney.
I never said they were the true Irish team in Scotland, in fact I think any club that claims to be the true Irish team in Scotland needs to remove their head from their ass. What I was responding to was the claim that Celtic was the ONLY Scottish team with a claim to Irish heritage, when clearly only someone with a limited knowledge of Scottish football would claim so. And boohoo about the Irish in Glasgow having it tougher, maybe they are just less patriotic of their own country than their Edinborough (sp?) counterparts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fingal hoop
Some of us think he is a violent thug that should have been kicked out of football altogether after admitting that he set out to injury Haaland on purpose, and subsequently ended his career. And that's not even mentioning Saipan. So many of us feel that this Jesuslike worship of Keane is moronic. end ofQuote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Well done Jebus on getting Keane and Celtic into the one post.
Can someone please move this somewhere other than the EL section :mad:
Hopefully you never have heart problems in later life if a mention of Keane in one point, and Celtic in a completely different one makes you :mad: :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Dying of boredom more likely risk.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
Nothing to do with EL football and nothing new added to the many, many, many pointless threads re-hashing the same old turgid arguments that crop up with the depressing regularity on here.
The Scottish football discussion is also a breach of the site rules.
Oh no! Really?! Why I'm sorry this converstion bored you, and that Roy Keane threads bore you general, next time try not clicking into them, its a much more intelligent thing to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Oh and the Sunderland Craze has a loose connection with the EL, as do the people who rather support Sunderland, Celtic, etc. Oops I used Roy Keane and Celtic in the same post again, don't get :mad: now :rolleyes:
You'll find a much more engaging audience in the paddywhackery/barstool section of the site.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
Neither has anything to do with the EL.
:rolleyes: I could argue a lot of what is posted in here has little to do with the EL as a collective, but, well I'm just don't care as much about what is said on a free forum as most I suppose. I usually just don't click in to the threads, which again is a sound piece of advice for anyone with :mad: problemsQuote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
The Irish are the first to have a go at the English over there love of everything that is David Beckham. We are worse when it comes to Roy Keane!
In terms of supporting two teams, ala scandinavia, the difference here is that the majority do support two teams -but its in two different sports GAA and soccer- the average fan supports their county and a British club. That county/parochial loyalty they are not able to transfer to our League - some can do it, but by and large it doesen't happen - the crowd on hill 16 supporting the Dubs would contain a lot of supporters of our clubs, but they'd be only a fraction of the number supporting British clubs.