anyone ever see the Al Murray bit on God Save the Queen where he repeatedly made a punter in the front row get up and sing it to save Lizzie from one ridiculous life threatening situation after another. Bloody hilarious!
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anyone ever see the Al Murray bit on God Save the Queen where he repeatedly made a punter in the front row get up and sing it to save Lizzie from one ridiculous life threatening situation after another. Bloody hilarious!
Take off your shoes, stand at the back, and shut up? Why would you be in a mosque? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I always stand for my national anthem, but then, its usually at city matches and I always stand at city matches, so its not any extra effort to stand for De Banks.
It is, however, unfortunate that both of my national anthems convey such a hidden (in the Republic's case, hidden only by the veil of an obscure dead language) nasty militarism. Most are I suppose, especially given that nationalism was born out of a need to give troops something to die for when fighting someone of your own religion.
So, in that round about way, I do stand and sing Amhrann na bhfiann, in pubs or otherwise, but more of a "i do quite like where I live" sort of way, rather than a "i'm drunk and i would glady emerge from the trenches to defeat the saxon foe" kind of way.
I've heard it a few times in Dublin, after trad sets mostly. There was a place on the south end of Capel St. called Slattery's (I think) that used to have traditional bands, and they would sometimes play it. Being young and idealistic, I wouldn't stand (after all, I'm not actually a soldier, so why would I sing that I am?). One night some bloke from Northern Ireland took great offence at this and had to be dragged off me.
After that, for a while I would answer the "why aren't you standing" question with "I'll stand when the country is whole again," which, while not strictly true, tended to satisfy the types who would ask why I wasn't standing.
Nowadays I'm old and tired, and I tend to stand. It's just easier.
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Originally Posted by Dotsy
TBH that busker thing would never happen:eek: , but if it did i'd stand as tall as i could:). I wouldn't find it disrespectful if Anthem is played and you stayed seated, nor would i if someone played it in a pub. Still thats my opinion , + you shouldn't take it so seriously.
You must have. Its there alright.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
That I have to stand up when a band in a pub play the national anthem?!Quote:
Originally Posted by smellyfeet
Constitutional or statutory reference please.....
Deutchland Deutchland Uber Alles Uber Alles in die welt...
This is much better than that one:Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
jaysus.. what does the bird do then?:p :DQuote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
People have very different views on the importance of the Anthem and I have no problem with any of them.
For some people its important for others it means nothing. Regardless of the reason the girls chose to stay seasted no one has a right to question that choice. Get the hell over yourself like, for some people its just a song.
Personally i treat it with respect as it meant a lot to my grandfather and I got that respect it from him.
Dont have a huge problem with it being played it pubs tbh.
Id be more annoyed by the people who start shouting (mostly GAA games) before the anthems over than by it being played in a pub or people not choosing to join in.
I'm pretty sure most local pubs up here play our National Anthem, or yours (depending on the area). I think it is just common courtesy to stand up for it, and I know I do and have done in quite a few countries... I even remember when it used to come on at 11pm on the TV up here, to mark the closing of the broadcasting.. I think that is what I associate it with, when played last thing at night, the ending of the day.
Common courtesy to who though?? Surely respecting or not respecting your national anthem should be a personal thingQuote:
Originally Posted by LeviathanNI
i love Danny Boy, quality anthem. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by LeviathanNI
my folks are from east Galway and i remember the pubs and clubs there without fail used to play the anthem at the end of every night. I used to stand but mostly cos i was ****ed and even then it felt a bit weird so i used to go all out and put my hand on my chest and belt it out. Most people stood up, some didnt. Its no big deal.
i am from mayo , its played almost all the time by bands as their last song , we always stand.
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Originally Posted by jebus
One of the (many) great jokes in Father Ted was when they were at some function and everyone was asked to stand for the National Anthem - cue "Ghost Town" by the Specials :D
My own gripe is with the GAA who play it at nearly every game even at club level.
It's no wonder that the last last line is always drowned by cheering at big GAA games when people are so used to hearing it.
The national anthem is different from other songs (whatever you think about the lyrics etc) and to show it proper respect it should be played on fairly limited occaisons ie not in a pub at 2 in the morning. That said if I was in such a pub I'd stand to avoid grief.
I think for sporting occaisons it should be limited to international games or National finals.
ive never heard it played in the nightclub not once. the slow set thing is a court order to calm people down b4 they go out to the square because of all the fights but it prob starts all the trouble when some fella sees his old doll dancin with another fella. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dahamsta
but its always played for parties and little other bands in smaller venues in cobh.
to be honest i think it totally inappropiate to play Amhran na Fhiann Full Stop, too old fashioned, too anti british and war glorifying.
hammertime would be a whopper anthem
Think that's a bit strong. I have no time for national athems at sporting events myself but it defintely has it place at official state type functions etc. Playing the irish anthem in a pub is tacky in my eyes. I definitely wouldnt stand for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelarmyexile
However, our national is still played at the end of the night in Liverpool but everyone whether english, irish, scottish, welsh,..... loves it and sings it with pride.
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Our national anthem is YNWA btw:D.
Jaysus, that's rich. Saying it's too old fashioned etc... And that coming from someone with a Cork Hibs avatar and a handle like yours!Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelarmyexile
FFS!
If you put it into the context of how things are in other countries, such as the Scandinavian countries, the National Anthem is not played nearly enough. The Scandinavian countries are also big National "flag wavers". It's very common that Scandinavians have a National flag hanging in their garden/ or attached to their homes in some form. I've also eaten many a meal in Sweden where a miniature Swedish flag is sitting in the middle of the table. Compare this to Ireland. If somebody hung up an Irish tricolour in their garden or had a miniature flag on the dinner table, they'd never hear the last of it.
The biggest problem with our National Anthem is not that it is played too often or in pubs, it's the fact that a sizeable, and I'd guess the majority of the population do not know the words to it.
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Originally Posted by reder
They play that at the end of the nite in the pig too!
My dad was in a showband and tells of how one nite they were somewhere in the North and started playing the Irish National Anthem until they saw the angry faces and quickly had to change to the British one. One nite club in Monaghan still plays it I think but thats it. The place I used to go as a teenager played it at the end but then followed it with "New York New York" so that became the real anthem.
TBH its just a song. Get over it. If the words were anyway appropriate to the struggles of today then I would sing it with pride.
How about "I cant afford a house, I wait 3 hours in traffic to go to work and my mum is on a hospital trolley for 10 days now" That is more an Irish anthem than anything else.
Yeah it's terrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
I just sing the first few lines and then mumble through the middle and then, when the end is coming up, I just start cheering like crazy as loud as I can.
Been getting away with that for years now... beats learning the feckin thing anyway.
I think a lot a bands play it to ensure that they do not have to listen to the more,more more chants from the crowd who want a few more songs. When the anthem is played and the lights come on the band are saying night over, we are going home. Same for the publicans - Its an easier way for them to say - Now, we are really closing
Band finishing, pub closing, it's definately time to stand up
Now you're on the right track. Most national anthems are rubbish songs and should be updated so we can all move on from the historical baggage.Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelarmyexile
As a compromise to the Shinners, Celtic supporters and hardline GAA heads who didn't want God Save The Queen played at Croke Park I suggested an alternative, inoffensive anthem that everyone could get behind
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Put your hands up,
Put your hands up,
Put your hands up for the Queen!
I love that Lizzy!
I'd like to propose the Darts song to replace Amhrán na bhFiann - no way anyone could be accused of not knowing the words.
Any other suggestions...?Quote:
Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do DARTS! DARTS! DARTS! Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do DARTS! DARTS! DARTS!....
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Originally Posted by Magicme
the Squealing Pig? doe Raymond still own it?
Yeah he does! You know Ray?
he was good friends with some of my cousins when he was here in the U.S., don't know him well myself but remember hearing about the success of the Pig after he had returned, pretty impressive place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magicme
What happens when hospital problems are cured, we write a new line about getting to the semi-finals of the World Cup in South Africa? What about the people who can afford houses, or whose only traffic problem is the sheep straying across the road? It doesn't matter what the lyrics are as it's not about identifying with the lyrics. In this day in age a literal interpretation is not going to be the case, it's a manifestation of patriotism best left well alone from Phil Coulter, Bono or the likes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magicme
Yeah true kingdom. Most doesnt apply to me coz I can afford a lovely home in my small town and only sit in traffic for bout 5 mins on my way to work (and if it stops being so rainy will walk to work!) but my heart patient mum had to sleep on a trolley for 3 days a few months ago & I had to stay on one for 2 days rececently. The day they change the hospital system to an efficient one I will gladly sing any song they tell me to!