Lumping the ball to Ogbene??
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Lumping the ball to Ogbene??
We are lucky Gav wasn't sent off
Double jeopardy. He made a genuine attempt to get the ball; can't be sent offQuote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Defence AWOL there for the through ball
Dutch did nothing for 17 minutes, then tore the defence apart perfectly.
It was a penalty for sure, but not much of a foul.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Terrible play by Doherty for the peno. Hasn’t played enough football recently for me
Good stop Baz and good work from Collins to get back but this is getting really hairy
Desperate from doherty , Duffy and mcclean for the peno
I thought he was stretching to intercept a cross-field pass and had little chance of really controlling the header tbh. I thought the big issue was elsewhere. Could well change my mind when I see it on telly later though!Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy_c12000
Dutch cutting through centre-mid and centre-back too easily here. We've great corners and that's it
Mixing it up nicely, plenty of Jack Charlton type long ball. Kenny staying through to his word. All about a footballing philosophy (of sorts…)
I apologize to all Ogbene fans, he is so limited. Not a prem player. But doing a job for sure as interim measure
We'd be 3-1 up with Ferguson on the pitch
He is though, he plays for Luton dummy ?Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy_c12000
Just love Knight, can see why Bristol City fans massive fans already
lol true, as an interim measure until inevitable relegation lolQuote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
Agree doing very well prepared to drive forward with the ballQuote:
Originally Posted by tommy_c12000
Albania beating Poland at halftime, which is bad for us and the playoff
We regrouped well after the equaliser (well, it took us about 10 minutes to regroup).
Dutch look like they're one more perfect run and pass away from a goal, but they are so easily rattled at the back. The touches we've taken when we HAD to shoot first time are criminal.
Still, a good half overall.
It’s been an excellent all round performance. The Dutch are rattled. They had a couple of moments and a defensive lapse puts them back in it but we rallied really well after. Koeman’ll make some adjustments at h/t and it will be interesting to see if Kenny matches him.
I thought Browne, Knight and Collins have been excellent. Probably Browne the player of the half for me, certainly one of his best 45 minutes in green. Calm, taking the ball on the turn. McClean has done well too, goal aside. I think Doherty has been way more good than bad, only real error was for the goal and he’s been great getting forward. Idah just off the pace a bit and getting a bit bullied in the air and Ogbene has been wasteful with a couple of shots.
Great performance so far, should be ahead. Idah good, McClean good, Ogbene working hard down the right, Bazunu with a few good saves. One moment of stupidity let Dutch back in, but it was the defender playing him onside more at fault for me than Doherty.
Id worry they cant keep up this intensity, especially as the Dutch are looking so good in midfield. De Jong has roasted us a few times. But their backline and keeper aren't looking steady either.
If only Ferguson was on the field...
Reality is.. they've got players from Barcelona.. we've got players from Wrexham
We're going to get better as some of them get older, but Cullen, Ogbene, Mc Clean, forget it.. Browne, Doherty.. not going to be part of the future
But they're giving it a rattle
Good first half overall, disappointed to have conceded. Think it’s probably a fair reflection at 1-1. They’ve got a bit lucky with a few decisions. The van Dijk free kick was very lucky, Idah was more fouled than guilty of fouling.
I’d be inclined to replace Egan with Omobamidele. Malen’s pace is scary and they’ve had two times where he’s been able to exploit it. His finishing is and always has been his weakness though. So never really worried too much with his too shots.
I’d also be inclined to do Browne for probably Molumby (maybe Smallbone?) after about 55.
Idah has caused Van Dijk real problems - but has to have confidence to shoot himself. Ogbene the same for Ake and Blind. McClean has Demphris in his pocket. Doherty has looked good. And we’ve looked dangerous from set pieces against a tall Dutch side.
Gakpo is the real fear for me. There’s a level of intelligence there in his movement and passing…
The Poland result.. along with Italy struggling.. are more important results for us this weekend unfortunately
Thought Idah's not been great tbh, goal aside. Two chances to have a bang at and he took a heavy touch and too much time both times. Him and Ogbene not getting a huge amount of change and you'd see Connolly or Armstrong on by the hour I'd say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Insidetherock
McClean putting in some great balls, Browne doing really well (a coincidence that he's moved to a more natural position?)
Both of us look dodgy at the back, but overall we deserve to be level at halftime here and that's a nice change
Mcclean at fault for the goal needs to see that run and cover it with Duffy dropped deep and at fault for chance gavin saved with his footQuote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Don't hang your hat on Poland doing anything of note in that group, they are poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Insidetherock
On this game I think Cullen has done well, a player of influence, easily finds the space to receive and deliver the ball, 'am surprised they haven't got closer to him.
Mcclean is having a nightmare here
Joke mccleans error again responsible for 2 goals and 2 big chances never a wingback
Ffs Kenny didn’t want to change things, momentum he totally swung
Duffy at fault twice over there, keeping Dumfries onside and letting Weghorst ghost in. 55 minutes to a state of "Now what?"
Duffy keeping Dumfries onside by hanging a yard further back than the rest of the defence.
Again, worth bearing in mind we have a premier league starting centre back on the bench who has played regularly at both right and left back for his club. I’m done with Kenny. Please make it stop
Is that the second time Duffy has played a player onside by being a metre behind the back line?
We spent the last ten minutes giving the ball straight back to the Dutch.
Yep. Both goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by weldoninhio
This has the bang of the 5-1 against Denmark now.. though the Dutch will probably score one more and call it a night.. give Armstrong a run, and make it a nice round 20 debuts before getting the bullet next week
Duffy crap, Egan has no pace and he made regularly errors for Sheff United over the last year. Need big Andy back playing regularly for his club, O Shea partnering with Collins. McClean is a running joke. Cullen is so average it is not even funny. Idah is facilitating a nice game of ping pong, everything that goes up to him just comes straight back. Ogbene so limited, minimal composure and just has not improved his decision making.
At least make it interesting Kenny, lash on Ebosele, Connolly and Armstrong. Nothing to lose now
Kenny hasn’t a clue how to change this. Totally inert and clueless
Typically managers make either a tactical or personal change by now given the game development. A penny for Kenny’s thoughts. Back to the league of Ireland for you sir
Closing the stable door……