What events??? You have yet to tell me what happened on your scary trip, other than that "Hundreds" of supporters safety was in jeopardy, which is balls.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFan
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What events??? You have yet to tell me what happened on your scary trip, other than that "Hundreds" of supporters safety was in jeopardy, which is balls.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFan
I hate to interrupt your spat with krstic BohsFan but the point about playing surfaces is a good one.
Earlier in the season Nutsy wanted clubs fined for having bad pitches yet nowadays when Tolka park looks like Suvla Bay circa 1915 (as usual, I might add) it is still other clubs that need to "take a look at themselves" except the point of obsession/paranoia has moved on smwhere else.
And as for the Judas on the pitch, phone calls etc. It's well OTT but it's very funny and all part of the rich pagent of Eircom League football. The Judai had the last laugh that time (instead of the complete bottling-out they did in Dalymount) but I hear a story that Honker and Ugly were driving around Drumcondra after the match screaming at Bohs fans and giving the fingers out the windows. Very professional.
NOT
(I think we might have upset them.)
Oh BTW.
1) I wasn't in the Brandywell at the time in question but,I have heard the rock throwing incident mentioned before by Bohs fans.
2)I have figured out who BohsFan is, and I can vouch he is 100% Bohs and not a wind up from another club.
3) I have seen the stewards in the Brandywell roughing up a youngfellah for lighting a flare which I though was out of order. But I have never had any trouble myself up there.
As somone who works with autistic Children I find that very offensive and shall end my conversation with you Idiot with one last remark.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFan
Yes I was there, I've been to every home game at the Brandywell for the last 20 years and your incident involving Hundreds of Bohs fans did not happen...good night assho*e :ball: :ball:
There's nothing wrong with the playing surfacen in Tolka this year bar for the Glentoran game when it was a disgrace alright
Krstic,you've done the right thing,The amount of times i've heard people use special needs children or references to special needs children on these boards as a derogatory remark is shameful :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Krstic
Are you serious,you are a f*cking joke :mad: ***** :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFan
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If they wanted to get rid of it why didn't they paint the rectangular area surrounding the word in the green paint rather than just painting over the letters? Did they want to just leave it there so that they would have an excuse to go whinging to the press about Bohs?
I was in Derry at the game BohsFan is talking about (who, btw, I don't know). It was about 10 years ago and was one of the Cup-semis. I seem to remember it being mid-week although I may be wrong. Bohs did have huge support there and we were in the small corner opposite the nicer stand.
Something made of glass, I think even a couple, were thrown over the wall from outside and smashed off the wall all over the Bohs fans.
It was very unpleasant not to mention very dangerous and I don't remember too much being done to catch those responsible.
However, I don't class those who did it as Derry fans and in my experience they have always treated us very well in Derry - even if I've never seen Bohs win there :( .
That was the only incident of note I can remember from all my times up there and Derry, unlike other places, is a ground where you can mix among the home fans and nothing untoward will happen.
In short, yes, I had a bad experience at that game in Derry. Do I still have a lot of time and respect for real Derry fans? Of course.
Let's close the book on this one please, it was 10 years ago!
Krstic and Bohsfan, stop ye're stupid little bickering. Take it to PM or something or I'll have to lock the thread.
As for all the stuff the Bohs fans did in the build up to the Shels game. Brilliant. I most certainly approve!
It was probably to make the people who did it look like the clowns they are, and more so, so that we would have the pleasure of watching said judas slam in the winner on the spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Réiteoir
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Originally Posted by Bohs fan
Bit of poetic license there Bohsfan?Quote:
Originally Posted by Feech
Are you sure about the missiles raining down from inside?
It sounds like one or two bottles were thrown in from outside. Regrettable, definately, but hardly schwerpunkt. And yes, I was at the match in question, on that side of the ground, and don't remember anything of note.
BTW I find your turn of phrase very interesting for a Dub. Use of the words "peelers" and "wee", a fondness for Linfield.................. :D
That wasn't me who posted that, it was BohsFan :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man
In fairness, he says that at every club he's at, so I wouldn't go patting yourselves on the back too much!Quote:
Originally Posted by Maribor
Who says Bohs fans broken the windows??Quote:
Originally Posted by Gareth
Where's the Tolka Park CCTV footage to back up your claims??
and how does that suggest a Bohs fan did it??Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
I posted that up having already read about it on the Bohs mb :p
I think UCD fans should stay out of this one.
btw great result tonight :D
Bohsfan - you seem to have a serious issue with answering a question. Training for a career as a TD or something...?Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFan
Regardless, I'll ignore the fact that the one and only incident you use to justify your assertion that the Brandywell is nigh-on a place of mass public disorder - into which away fans are led like lambs to the slaughter - happened at least 10 years ago (if it was that big an incident for you, btw, surely you'd be able to say what year it was...?).
I'll also ignore your pathetic attempt to bring Harps into it with unspecified remarks about all the things that have happened to them (Harps fans on here can testify that of the c.30 meetings our teams have had over the years at the Brandywell, nothing of any great substance has occured).
Regardless of the above - the alleged incident that you mentioned supposedly involved people OUTSIDE the Brandywell throwing stuff in during a game. I've put the word 'outside' in capital letters to help you here. If the perpetrators of this alleged incident were DCFC fans, or were in any way associated with the club, surely they would have been inside the ground during a match...? Or has your bitterness towards the club and the city clouded what little common sense you appear to possess...?
And what exactly do you suggest Derry City stewards - who's responsibility is to look after security WITHIN the ground - should do about a minor event that happens OUTSIDE the ground DURING a game ? Desert their posts to investigate in an area where they have no jurisdiction or control - thereby neglecting their stated duty towards the safety of the fans INSIDE the stadium ?? Also - It may surprise you to learn BohsFan, but the PSNI *do* POLICE the Brandywell as an area, and can often be seen in the area - even in the height of the troubles. They just don't police the stadium itself on matchday. So I suggest you direct your queries/complaints re a catastrophic public order event that put literally hundreds of people at risk in an unspecified year over a decade ago to :
Chief Inspector George Brien
Foyle District Command Unit
Police Service of Northern Ireland
81A Strand Road
Derry/Londonderry (take your pick...)
BT48 7AA
I'll help you with writing the letter if you manage to break all your crayons again.
Eyes down for some more question dodging and a side-splittingly witty response. I'm literally shuffling to the edge of my seat as I type...
While I ain't a fan of Derry I'm going to sort of stick up for them here.
While I dont like tham for 2 reasons (1. supporting their club when kicking another club when theyre down which nearly resulted in us being kicked out of the league (and we were never in a worse state then rovers or others were - 100k is all it cost to sort us out) 2. the 'best supporters' in the world stuff)
However one thing I will say is that they are probably one of the best behaved in the country. We've never had any bother with them in drogheda. I actually remember a couple of years ago in our club bar at half time, the place was packed with derry and drogs at half time and a few drunkan drogs started singing 'whats it like to have a queen' etc, i thought its all going to kick off now, but instead the derry fans just walked away back to the terrace).
Also going up to derry - i never go to the oak place, usually go to the bar nearest to the entrance (think its the brandywell bar??) and never a hint of bother there.
As regards Kennys comments, every club has their morons so I wouldnt read anything into it (though that it was very sad that a derry fan asked for the thread to be moved to the derry section :rolleyes: )
Obviously I cant forgive what happened in the past, but I dont think its fair to be labelling derry fans as being 'bad behaved' ( in a physical sense ;) )
But the RUC/PSNI do police outside Brandywell stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFan
And as was said by REAL Bohs fans, the bottle(s) came from outside.
So your point is as invalid as your supposed support for Bohs :p
I've read it, and you continually contradict yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFan
So I'll ask you this question AGAIN (as a previous poster said you seem to have a problem asnwering questions)
What powers do Derry City have to stop incidents occuring OUTSIDE Brandywell Stadium???
Your supposed Frightening incident was the result of a Bottle(s) being thrown IN to the Stadium from OUTSIDE (where the RUC/PSNI are responsible for and DO police)
Give us a wee answer this time mouthpiece :ball:
How often are you in the Brandywell area??Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFan
Still not answering the previous question!!!
Maybe I'll translate it to Ulster/Scots and then you'll understand :ball:
Your continued attempts to draw me into a political debate with you on a Football forum are tedious.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFan
If you are going to throw some bait, let's make it footy bait :ball:
Again you seem to ignore your own previous posts and continue to contradict yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFan
It was your mention of John Hume and the 'Derry persecution' complex that led me to the opinion of you not being who you say you are.
Therefore it's quite clear if you take a look back at yesterdays exchanges, it was in fact you who politicised this little spat. :ball: :ball:
You're clearly struggling now BohsFan.....Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFan
I have. And if you don't believe me - let me try to use common sense on you.
The entrance to the City Cemetry is literally opposite the Brandywell Stadium. In fact - it's about 10 feet from where the alleged incident you report from years ago reportedly took place.
Now - unless you're as juvenile as your postings suggest you are, you will remember reports on the news of some very high profile funerals taking place in the City Cemetry over the years. In particular - Patsy O'Hara and Michael Devine - 2 Hunger Strikers from Derry. They are both buried in the City cemetry in Derry. See where I'm going yet....?
Now - there is a very large Republican plot within the City Cemetry. Meaning large numbers of IRA and INLA men and women are buried there. Each of those funerals was, surprise, surprise - policed ! Some in absolutely HUGE numbers. I recall very clearly standing in the grounds of my school (St Columbs College), that overlooks both the Brandywell and the City Cemetry, in the mid 1980's to watch the goings on at some very high profile funerals, and literally counting the rows of Landrovers in units of 10 - there were that many of them !!
Looking more recently - and again trying to focus on high profile events you will struggle to claim never happened - one of the few Republican prisoners still in jail at the moment is a guy from the Brandywell called 'Seamus Doherty'. Two homes belonging to relatives of him, weer raided not so long ago in very high profile policing incidents. Google it if you don't believe me...
Finally - to try and prove to you that the RUC/PSNI don't just turn up in the Brandywell for the 'big events' before disappearing for months, in some dastardly conspiracy to prevent away Eircom League fans from ever sighting them, I found the following extract from Republican News (not a read I'd recommend, by the way) on Google from 1998. It clearly documents the fact that the RUC were in the Brandywell frequently at that time :
"The RUC in the Brandywell area of Derry have been harassing children as young as five years old on a nightly basis and shining searchlights into Nationalists homes on the estate.
Peter Anderson, the local SF councillor, has received numerous complaints from parents.
``Unsurprisingly there has been a reaction from the Nationalist community to this RUC aggression,'' said the councillor, referring to the fact that police patrols have come under attack from stone-throwers in the area, ``and some damage has been caused to local buildings and cars. It is quite clear that the RUC is directly responsible for creating this disorder and this force should stay out of the Brandywell and, indeed, any area where it is clear that they are not welcome.''
So even if you'll ignore the word of people like myself who have been in the Brandywell more than the once or twice in their life tht you have (even though that doubtless makes you an expert on the local area...), perhaps you'll accept either footage you would have seen on the news (if you're old enough to recall, or intelligent enough to watch the news), articles from the web, or merely just common sense that Republican funerals in Derry have been heavily policed...? Or are you a bit of a 'flat earthist' and refuse to accept the truth when it's staring you in the face ?
Any other straws you'd like help clutching at there BohsFan ? I'm literally shuffling to the edge of my seat as I type....
Stick to the topic folks. Antics of Derry City & Shelbourne can be discussed on other threads that alreay exist!
Awwwh BohsFan - don't go ! We've ripped your arguements to shreds - including even the one tiny little straw you were left clutching ("Hands up if you've ever seen the police in the Brandywell vicinity").Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFan
I was therefore looking forward to you either ignoring the salient points raised in my last post, or resorting to personal abuse to get round the fact that you have an all-consuming hatred of anything to do with Derry that is making you post like a moron.
Don't ban him moderators - I can almost hear him weasling and squirming red-faced in his chair from where I'm based in London. This site needs its village idiots to provide quality humour for everyone else to laugh at. BohsFan is the online equivalent of someone who trips up outside a busy pub in full view of lots of people, and then gets all angry with everyone for laughing at his misfortune. You can't ban comedy gems like that ! :D
PS Pete - responses to allegations from a Bohs Fan about the alleged behaviour of Derry fans within a thread regarding Bohs Fans is perfectly on topic !
I disagree. BohsFan allegation was off topic originally. Derry City fans been debated elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
BohsFan has been warned as he has been repeating the same post in 5 pages of threads. This is supposed to be discussion forum & not public forum for attacking other people. No Derry City fans have been warned as have at least tried to debate.
I know I should just let it go now that Steve has nailed you to your cross, but Can I make one more little comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFan
I worked in Dublin for 2 years and never did i hear a Dub call me 'Mate'
I worked in Belfast for 3 years and every Belfast man started their sentence with 'Mate'.
So where do you really come from Mate????