Connor declares war on the League of Ireland (especially Bohs!!)

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Originally Posted by SMorgan

However, he hasn't used his full budget and Dundalk are spending 49% of its income on players wages.

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So he hasn't used his full budget. Lets say he has used €11,999 of it.
49% of this is €5879.
Take out employers PRSI. That leaves €5247
16 full time players, is it?
An average of €328 per week per player. No wonder they don't give a toss.
Georgie on €328 per week. Wouldn't keep him in taxis.

Alternatively let's assume each player is on €1000 per week.
That's €1100 per player its costing Craptown.
Annualised thats €923,000.
If that is 49% then Craptown have an income of €1.8M

We won the league with that being pumped in

SMorgan - are you Sean Connor because you are living on a different planet if you think we believe you. Give us your source please.

Lest assume more realistically €600pw on average per player, annualised that is just shy of €500,000

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Originally Posted by Celdrog

So he hasn't used his full budget. Lets say he has used €11,999 of it.
49% of this is £5879

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My goodness have you got the wrong end of the stick. Dundalk are spending 49%. of the club's income on players wages as per FAI wage cap, so the first part of your maths exercise is bull. Also do me a favour in relation to what Drogheda spent in winning the league!! Drogheda's league title cost 8m over a 3 year period and was bought on the never-never or should I say bought using a combination of players wages and money due to many hard pressed Drogheda businesses. Did you ever listen to what Mr Hoey was telling you?

Also what is it with you guys and Craptown. What age are you guys? Is it meant to be a put-down?

And if you're looking for a source, that 49% figure comes from our match day programme.

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Originally Posted by Red&White Rover

Agreed

That's Connor all over. First team is all that matters to him.

If infrastructure and youth set-ups are what Matthews want then Connor is not the man for him.

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In his defence here- managers live and die by the results of the first team. If you're waiting on your first team manager to develop the club's structures then you'll be waiting a long time. That stuff is the responsibility of the club, not the manager.

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Originally Posted by holidaysong

And if you're looking for a source, that 49% figure comes from our match day programme.

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Given that Connors Churchillian propaganda also appears in said organ, could we be forgiven some scepticism on the figure quoted.?
By the way I hope Connor doesn`t doesn`t destroy your club and that the Board have him on a short leash.....doesn`t look like it though.

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Originally Posted by Celdrog

So he hasn't used his full budget. Lets say he has used €11,999 of it.
49% of this is €5879.

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I assume the 12k per week was the wage budget rather than the overall budget.

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Originally Posted by Patrick Dunne

His call for hostility towards away teams should be reported to the FAI.

There's enough messing going on inside and around EL grounds without encouraging it in the match programme.

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I think it could be construed as being incitement to hatred and could attract a legal action!

In any event, such comments do nothing to help the game or Dundalk!

Knowing the absolute bias that is shown against teams outside of Dubland, i have to say i concur with most of his points.

Oh dear !!

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Originally Posted by Derry

Knowing the absolute bias that is shown against teams outside of Dubland, i have to say i concur with most of his points.

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Don't do it to yourself. Connor is a deluded arsehole.

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Originally Posted by Derry

Knowing the absolute bias that is shown against teams outside of Dubland, i have to say i concur with most of his points.

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But I'm sure like all Derry fans you're not bitter.

http://www.megacoolstuff.com/playwell/PlayWell.jpg

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Originally Posted by wexfordned

But I'm sure like all Derry fans you're not bitter.

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Way to tar 3000 people with the same brush.

The stark absence of objectivity (with some notable exceptions) on this forum in relation to Sean Connor continues to astound me

While I can understand that Sligo and Bohemians fans have reasons to be blinkered (he took a lot of good players with him from Sligo, and of course he took a lot of good money with him from Bohs), I wonder about the lack of perspective from others.

So what did Sean Connor say, and what was his purpose?

Its pretty clear that the fundamental objective of his article is to galvanise support from the local supporters at a time when Dundalk are 2nd from bottom, face a crises of injuries and suspensions, and have four crucial games imminent. Whether this “siege mentality” call has the desired effect remains to be seen – I suspect that it may be of help in deflecting the growing dissatisfaction among some Dundalk supporters with the current league position.

So, apart from this rallying call for all the clubs supporters to get behind their team, what did he say that was so objectionable to so many foot.ie posters?

Referee's decisions in the Bohs game
The reality is that referee was abysmal. His failure to award even a free kick in either of the Paul Keegan fouls was beyond belief. Sean Connor reaches the conclusion it is part of a bias (Buttimer also gave a wrong decision against Simon Kelly for a penalty against Bray), while others might suggest that it is a grossly incompetent referee who is consistent in his ineptitude

Hostile atmosphere for visiting teams / Nastier approach in games

There is nothing wrong with the aspiration of creating an intimidating or daunting environment for opposition teams on the pitch, once the game is played fairly.

His “nastier approach” is simply advocating more resilience, toughness or physicality.

Naturally some here have chosen to interpret these aspects in a more sinister way - Sean Connor could have (should have) chosen better language. But then I doubt if he is particularly concerned about others intentionally misinterpreting them.

The test is if his comments have the desired impact on the pitch against Galway on Friday (and in Drogheda, Pats & Sligo games to follow).

The next few weeks should certainly be interesting!

He's still an absolute ****bag though:)

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

The test is if his comments have the desired impact on the pitch against Galway on Friday

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Galway certainly should be up for it anyway!
Incidentally, who's Dundalk's Mr Nasty going to be? One might have expected Chris Turner to play the role to some degree, but that didn't work out too well in Dalymount.

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Galway certainly should be up for it anyway!
Incidentally, who's Dundalk's Mr Nasty going to be? One might have expected Chris Turner to play the role to some degree, but that didn't work out too well in Dalymount.

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he keeps that for off the field with his gloves :D

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

The stark absence of objectivity (with some notable exceptions) on this forum in relation to Sean Connor continues to astound me

While I can understand that Sligo and Bohemians fans have reasons to be blinkered (he took a lot of good players with him from Sligo, and of course he took a lot of good money with him from Bohs), I wonder about the lack of perspective from others.

So what did Sean Connor say, and what was his purpose?

Its pretty clear that the fundamental objective of his article is to galvanise support from the local supporters at a time when Dundalk are 2nd from bottom, face a crises of injuries and suspensions, and have four crucial games imminent. Whether this “siege mentality” call has the desired effect remains to be seen – I suspect that it may be of help in deflecting the growing dissatisfaction among some Dundalk supporters with the current league position.

So, apart from this rallying call for all the clubs supporters to get behind their team, what did he say that was so objectionable to so many foot.ie posters?

Referee's decisions in the Bohs game
The reality is that referee was abysmal. His failure to award even a free kick in either of the Paul Keegan fouls was beyond belief. Sean Connor reaches the conclusion it is part of a bias (Buttimer also gave a wrong decision against Simon Kelly for a penalty against Bray), while others might suggest that it is a grossly incompetent referee who is consistent in his ineptitude

Hostile atmosphere for visiting teams / Nastier approach in games

There is nothing wrong with the aspiration of creating an intimidating or daunting environment for opposition teams on the pitch, once the game is played fairly.

His “nastier approach” is simply advocating more resilience, toughness or physicality.

Naturally some here have chosen to interpret these aspects in a more sinister way - Sean Connor could have (should have) chosen better language. But then I doubt if he is particularly concerned about others intentionally misinterpreting them.

The test is if his comments have the desired impact on the pitch against Galway on Friday (and in Drogheda, Pats & Sligo games to follow).

The next few weeks should certainly be interesting!

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The reason most fans have a problem with this is that it comes across like a load of moaning nonsense .Every club in the leauge could name countless decisions that have gone against them .All teams in the country think they are hard done by , we all have certain ref,s who screw us over .Alan Kelly take a bow .Its a very transparent atempt by connor to deflect the feeling in dundalk at the min .The natives are getting restless and hes starting to crap himself .Nothing more nothing less .

Fabio must be on decent money anyway if he can go on the lash a few days before the Bohs game. Maybe Connor should look closer to home before blaming everyone else.
http://www.orielweb.com/dundalktalk/...php?f=1&t=6347
http://www.bebo.com/PhotoAlbumBig.js...Id=10701484895

http://file048a.bebo.com/0/large/200...701484895l.jpg

Good man Celdrog, was waiting to see who would be the first sad individual to go looking at Bebo for this. You obviously have no life if this is the all only dirt you can get on our team atm. scoruign the socialising networks, what next maybe a piece and photo in the Drogheda Leader or what ever its called next week?

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Originally Posted by Celdrog

Fabio must be on decent money anyway if he can go on the lash a few days before the Bohs game. Maybe Connor should look closer to home before blaming everyone else.
http://www.orielweb.com/dundalktalk/...php?f=1&t=6347
http://www.bebo.com/PhotoAlbumBig.js...Id=10701484895

http://file048a.bebo.com/0/large/200...701484895l.jpg

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Robbing pics from the lad's bebo page and posting it here is out of order.Grow up.

thats pretty low alright....:o

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

The stark absence of objectivity (with some notable exceptions) on this forum in relation to Sean Connor continues to astound me

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I'm sure Steve Bruce is also astounded.
He's a crackpot, you'll be shouting 'Connor Out' soon enough.

By the way, I don't see what the issue is with providing links to a bebo page.

One thing is for certain under Connor I'm sure Fabio gets plenty of time off from training. Under Connor Bohs players did far less training than under any other manager.

I noticed Thomas Heary was carrying an injury into the Bohs game on Friday & was only on the bench. I'm amazed he lasted this long. Its no wonder he claims the squad is strecthed thin when you sign sicknote players.

But it's not Sean's fault. It's all one big conspiracy against him

nothing really wrong with his attempt to rally the troops speech ,bit emotive but then its not geared to stir the blood of non believers

I'm just curious as to what the general consensus is on Orielweb?

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Originally Posted by Black and White

Good man Celdrog, was waiting to see who would be the first sad individual to go looking at Bebo for this. You obviously have no life if this is the all only dirt you can get on our team atm. scoruign the socialising networks, what next maybe a piece and photo in the Drogheda Leader or what ever its called next week?

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I got in on Oriel web

How did you know the photos existed before i posted one of them?
It was Chris Turner who put them on the web, not me, then again he has form for this, doesn't he.

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Originally Posted by wexfordned

But I'm sure like all Derry fans you're not bitter.

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You mean, in the same way that I'm sure like all Wexford fans you're not in love with your kid sister - it's just about the sex.....? :confused:

P.S. I love the way the picture you posted is from a web site called "mega cool stuff". Waw. I wonder what other mega cool treats those crazy guys have over there..... :o

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Originally Posted by Celdrog

I got in on Oriel web

How did you know the photos existed before i posted one of them?
It was Chris Turner who put them on the web, not me, then again he has form for this, doesn't he.

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You put them up on a fans forum aka foot.ie, thats very low. If you read the posts on Orielweb you will see that the idiot who put them up there was told the exact same thing, Clown comes to word. Its sad and pathetic when you have to take these things and use them!get a life

jesus blackandwhite get off your highhorse ffs .Your stupid players are posting pics on a website of themselves twisted drunk and getting sick etc ! and your getting annoyed with someone putting them up here ? its totally related to connors paranoid rant .He needs to look a lot closer to home instead of blaming everyone else , it pathetic and embarrising :eek:

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Originally Posted by Celdrog

I got in on Oriel web

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It was a Drogheda fan that posted them there too though.. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

You mean, in the same way that I'm sure like all Wexford fans you're not in love with your kid sister - it's just about the sex.....? :confused:

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I think you'll find he's a Bohs fan.

And remember kids; incest is best ;)

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Originally Posted by ndrog

it pathetic and embarrising :eek:

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A bit like Drogheda United really.

Irish Independent In-Off-The-Post column, compiled by Neil Ahern and Daniel McDonnell, have confirmed their anti-Sean Connor stance in their declaration that they have a relationship problem with him!

"Sean Connor appears to be struggling in his relations with the written national press at the moment"

One translation of this could be - "We are the national press and we dont like you; we say your website article is a bizarre rant, because it dares to be crticial of us journalists!"

I was dubious as to why this programme article was published on the website in the first place, as at first look, it appears to be aimed exclusively at club supporters.
If Sean Connor was looking to get a reaction from others and build the "us against the world / seige mentality" he should send a thank you note to Messrs McDonnell & Ahern

http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...e-1729601.html

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

You mean, in the same way that I'm sure like all Wexford fans you're not in love with your kid sister - it's just about the sex.....? :confused:

P.S. I love the way the picture you posted is from a web site called "mega cool stuff". Waw. I wonder what other mega cool treats those crazy guys have over there..... :o

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I am confused I don't have a sister. :confused:

Question for you though where does the chip on the shoulder attitude that alot (not all) Derry fans have come from, although after reading Kenny's latest rant I suppose it's a cultre thing

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Originally Posted by wexfordned

I am confused I don't have a sister. :confused:

Question for you though where does the chip on the shoulder attitude that alot (not all) Derry fans have come from, although after reading Kenny's latest rant I suppose it's a cultre thing

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Every club who has underachieved in the league as we have for the past 10 years will have fans who have a chip on their shoulders. The fact that the majority of the refs are from Dublin and many of the teams we play against are also from Dublin doesn't help either.

And to link it to another thead, when you constantly get "Londonderry" thrown at you, it does tend to make you a bit bitter. It's not really as simple as a bit of grief, because many people have died in this city due to the presence of London.

That said, I don't think I have a chip on my shoulder. Others may disagree. Every club has people who will get wound up about decisions - Bohs fans are unbelievable on their message board for example.

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Originally Posted by ndrog

jesus blackandwhite get off your highhorse ffs .Your stupid players are posting pics on a website of themselves twisted drunk and getting sick etc ! and your getting annoyed with someone putting them up here ? its totally related to connors paranoid rant .He needs to look a lot closer to home instead of blaming everyone else , it pathetic and embarrising :eek:

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Jaysus lads...all the Drogs fans are worried about their more successful neighbours atm than their own club! I would suggest ye all worry about your own problems rather than scheming about ours!did you take a look at the league table lately, I do believe ye are propping it up!Relegaton and close of business at the end of the season!:D

Isn't that McDonnell feall from the Indo a Dundalk fan? If so, what is his agenda - wanting to get the best for his club?

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Irish Independent In-Off-The-Post column, compiled by Neil Ahern and Daniel McDonnell, have confirmed their anti-Sean Connor stance in their declaration that they have a relationship problem with him!

"Sean Connor appears to be struggling in his relations with the written national press at the moment"

One translation of this could be - "We are the national press and we dont like you; we say your website article is a bizarre rant, because it dares to be crticial of us journalists!"

I was dubious as to why this programme article was published on the website in the first place, as at first look, it appears to be aimed exclusively at club supporters.
If Sean Connor was looking to get a reaction from others and build the "us against the world / seige mentality" he should send a thank you note to Messrs McDonneel & Ahern

http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...e-1729601.html

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I disagree. They simply point the difference in Connor's attitude between the first week of the season & last week. Also as the heading of the articile is quite clear in relation to why they think Connor decided to throw a tantrum.

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Originally Posted by wexfordned

I disagree. They simply point the difference in Connor's attitude between the first week of the season & last week. Also as the heading of the articile is quite clear in relation to why they think Connor decided to throw a tantrum.

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Heading: Connor may rant -- but table doesn't lie

rant (rānt) http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictiona...on_default.gif
v. rant·ed, rant·ing, rants

v. intr.
To speak or write in an angry or violent manner; rave.
v. tr.
To utter or express with violence or extravagance: a dictator who ranted his vitriol onto a captive audience.
n.

1. Violent or extravagant speech or writing.
2. A speech or piece of writing that incites anger or violence

Yep - heading is justified!

Neil Ahern seems to be angry alright, so that qualifies as a rant. i wonder will Ahern erupt into violence from the press section on Friday night?