Man arrested after car chase in Dublin

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09/05/2006, 7:31 PM
mypost

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Originally Posted by dfx

...a madman at work...

Literally!! :cool:

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Originally Posted by Macy

Liam, no one is saying the UK police are the greatest thing since sliced bread, but there are some things they are good at compared to here. Crowd control, particularly at football matches is one that they p�ss all over the gardai.

The only reason they're good at it, is (unlike elsewhere in Europe) because they insist on games being played at times that suit them, and not the right-minded, law-abiding fans. :rolleyes: :mad:
09/05/2006, 7:55 PM
Anto McC

Lets say there is an independent inquiry,irregardless of the findings,isnt it just a case of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted!

DFX,did you have much trouble getting home?
10/05/2006, 12:01 AM
dfx-

I managed to get a lift instead, so it wasn't as bad as it almost certainly would've been, given the heads up, cheers:)

Bus and Luas both go straight through there so both would've been all over the place.
10/05/2006, 7:05 AM
Macy

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Originally Posted by mypost

The only reason they're good at it, is (unlike elsewhere in Europe) because they insist on games being played at times that suit them, and not the right-minded, law-abiding fans. :rolleyes: :mad:

More games are changed to suit sky fookin sports. Sod all Noon kick offs on police advice in the scheme of things, how many 1215, 1315, 1515 etc, Friday, Sunday, Monday to suit the telly? Compare the UK to the policing at Bohs v Rovers for example where they still never have enough on Doyles Corner whilst having the riot squad inside the ground, or countless other totally avoidable with proper policing over the years involving many clubs.
10/05/2006, 1:30 PM
First

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Originally Posted by Macy

More games are changed to suit sky fookin sports. Sod all Noon kick offs on police advice in the scheme of things, how many 1215, 1315, 1515 etc, Friday, Sunday, Monday to suit the telly? Compare the UK to the policing at Bohs v Rovers for example where they still never have enough on Doyles Corner whilst having the riot squad inside the ground, or countless other totally avoidable with proper policing over the years involving many clubs.

From a lunatic driving a bus , taking out anything in his way , to the Guards policing a football game...simple solution would ahve been to shoot him as soon as it was known that he had taken a life. Point a gun and they will shoot you , drive a bus at innocent people and they shoot at the tyres.
11/05/2006, 12:37 PM
Roverstillidie

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Originally Posted by d f x-

But yep, let's waste time and yet more thousands of Euro (something often complained about) investigating the Gardai's actions. Let's not blame the lunatic who drove into those people and cars...let's blame the Gardai instead.

thats not the point and well you know it. he only started crasing into cars when the cops tried to stop him. he will be prosecuted and spend a long tome in prison or dundrum. no one is blaming anyone other than him, but even for strategic reasons they should look at what whent wrong. the bacon boys should try learn from this, they failed to stop the bus, will they now go away and learn how to for next time? i doubt it

dont confuse the personal bravery of individual coppers with good policing

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Originally Posted by First

From a lunatic driving a bus , taking out anything in his way , to the Guards policing a football game...simple solution would ahve been to shoot him as soon as it was known that he had taken a life. Point a gun and they will shoot you , drive a bus at innocent people and they shoot at the tyres.

she died in hospital many hours after he had been arrested. good contribution:rolleyes:
11/05/2006, 12:44 PM
pete

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Originally Posted by Roverstillidie

dont confuse the personal bravery of individual coppers with good policing

Exactly, there is a big difference between individuals actions & overall organisation, training & resourcing. Did the Gardai have an action plan for this? Did they use it & did or work/fail? If you cannot identify your failings you cannot learn from them.
12/05/2006, 8:15 AM
Macy

Similar case in the UK yesterday, immediate independent inquiry launched. Contradicts what I was saying about UK police methods in car pursuits in some ways, but they will investigate what went wrong and whether it could've been prevented. While we just say what a good job was done.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...ne/4763883.stm

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