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Thats the mistery on our behalf we have been blasted from all angles by everyone and even us players were obvlious to it as the player that was down in pool didn think he was doing anything wrong by playing for the 2 teams so said nothing yet conn seem to have known a while and dont even have the decency to tell us where they pulled it from.... Surely one of there players didn recognise him from playing against him in the Sligo league?????? Thats the only resonable expination we think...
[QUOTE=Back n the game;1269782]Will agree with thst statement although I can see Charlestowns point in a level playing field if they didnt genuinley know that they were playing an illegal player.
Do players know the rules about the winter football in other counties??? Would it be fair to say that if players are regulars in a club they arn't asked if they played in another league and does this effect only the clubs on the borders of Sligo, Roscommon and Galway? What about players playing for college teams and the Garda and the likes, surley this is a must be reguarded as double regiseration???
But congratulations on your view point on winning matches on the pitch, only a team with inferior selfbelief and inability to win on grass would stoop to claming points with petty protests. What I would like to know is how somebody from Conn Rangers can find out that Charlestown have a double registered player and Charlestown seem oblivious to the whole thing??[/QUOTE]
Very good point murph!
4 names were originally submitted and only 1 proved conclusive which leads me to think it was a hit and miss exercise and that a Conn Player must have played against him in the Sligo league.
Think about it logically thatif Charlestown new they were intentionally breaking the rules they could have registered players under false names and so on and so forth. The player as ive said was not aware of this rule and and the other names were cleared. It would also appear that the players name appeared on match cards even when he wasn't playing in Sligo because when the full investigation was completed he had 6 match cards where he was either playing for Charlestown or not even in this country on the same day that Chaffpool claimed he lined out for them.
This has been a headache for us ever since it came about but i think all our lads deserve creddit for getting on with the season and getting themselves into the position they are now in.
Ive seen lads play for other teams in this League that I know played in the Sligo and Roscommon league but my opinion on the whole situation is let players play as this is not going to make teams up nor down and will probabley lead to player fatigue more than enhance their team. But once again I will point out we didn't bring in players from the Sligo league as was suggested.
Lads you are losing the plot. How conn found out is irrelevant. If Charlestown itself found out they should have reported the fact. An illegal player is an illegal player even if it was indavertant. The Moy - Claremorris replay should also never have happened. That match being replayed was a disgrace.
If these teams played illegal players and others did not then the teams that did not are at a disadvantage. It is up to the clubs to know the rules. Dont give out to conn for finding out give out to your own officers for not knwoing the rules. BTW I am not in favour of any specific team and wish all teams the best. I think Claremorris's achievement in getting to the last day and still being in contention is huge.
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Originally Posted by sprah1
its a joke that this game was replayed too as the rules state for every club that if you get sent off you automatically are suspended for the next game be it cup or league. Then at the next AGM meeting that player could recieve a further suspension. If clubs dont follow this rule then its there fault and Moy should have been deducted the points and be given to Claremorris. Simple as.
As for players playing in a Winter league in a different county, Charlestowns secetery should have been aware of this as that player would have had to off got it signed by the clubs secetery to play in a different league. Charlestown then had to get it cleared from that team for him to play in the Mayo league. that player may not be able to play in Mayo until the season in Sligo is over(or unless the Mayo FA clear him to play) as what happened with a player from Snugboro 2 seasons ago.
When you are registering players there is a part on it "Club last played for". Rambling a bit now so i hope i made sense
well murph and back n the game, i presume im talking to 1 person here. your constant complaining has really been hilarious all season. Its terrible how the whole world is out to get charlestown. The way ye were docked points was awful.Someone would almost conclude that ye broke the rules. When this is done surely ye deserve to be punished and should take it like a man. The way we found this out was that we played a load of games without a player to avoid breaking thye rule ye accidently broke. Your giving charlestow an awful name and maybe you should stop complaining and get on with chasing promotion
Agreed except that our player didn't get offically transfered to sligo or from sligo so our secretary couldn't have known about his participation in a winter league. Player just signed not knowing about transfers and when he came back no one was any the wiserQuote:
Originally Posted by etoo
So the player is at fault. plus surely someone knew that he played with a team in Sligo, well at least the manager should know that one of his players is playing for someone else when the season is over, if not a few of his teammates.Quote:
Originally Posted by murphs jewels
Are you sure he was registered at all in Sligo????if not then Ye shouldnt have been deducted the points as there would be no record....or did he sign the secertaries name himself?if so its his fault ye were deducted the points and not the Mayo FA.
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Originally Posted by etoo
We are not disputing that the rules were broken except to say that the ML found it very suspicious that 4 names were brought to their attention and 3 names appeared on the Chaffpool books but were not signed by the players (one of whom wasn't even around). This threw doubt over all the players in question except that one of the signatures matched up but this player was deemed to be playing on the same day he played in Mayo and on 1 occasion was in Liverpool at a game (he had flight details and match ticket as proof).
Very messy situation but its gone now and as I said before Creddit goes to the whole squad for rising from the ashes of this and putting themselves in a position to earn promotion. Could have wished for easier opposition on the final day but we will aproach the game in good form and hope that we get the result we are looking for.
how is everyones pitches holdin up with the weather?weather will have to improve tomorrow or our game will be off for sure. Wonder could a neutral venue be arranged if its not playable cause season gone on to long as it is...
What an idiotic comment.... How can i be complaining all season? I only joined 2 weeks ago. You must not read to good either...Quote:
Originally Posted by purplemonkeydis
Besides that rubbish any predictions for this weekend?
I fancy Moy Villa to win without breaking to much sweat same as Conn Rangers and will have to agree with couch potato that the Charlestown v Claremorris game has draw written all over it.
back in the game could be from chaffpool:-) are u the informer to conn by any chance?????
if you had some common sense you would realise I was talking to murphs jewels even if ye are the same person
Wasnt complainin was just makin a point we were deducted 6 points so it should be same for Villa but thats not their fault its that dodgy rule book the Mayo League have that seems to change when it suits them.We well passed complainin now jst lookin forward to match the weekend the pitch is dry as a bone now so as long as the weather stays decent atal tomorow the match will go ahead.
all messing aside lads we are promissed a ****er of a weekend. http://www.met.ie/ but would guss if ref shows the game will be fourced through
Best of luck to Charlestown, Conn Rangers, Claremorris and Moy Villa at the weekend. Hopefully the best two teams finish top of the pile (Char and Conn imo, but if Clarmorris join the party then they'll deserve it).
Snugboro will do their best to put a fly in the ointment, though I imagine the majority of us will be on the beer for the Ireland-France game but you can hardly blame us. For the two teams that don't make it, see you next year....playoff pending.
Thanks for good luck wishes dont blame ye for goin drinkin cause we would definately be doin the same:-)
Whats the pitch like in belaghy murphs??? will the game go ahead
this is the day what's everyone's thoughts on the final round of matches. moy villa to win league, conn rangers and claremorris b (hopefully) in a play off for second i think. it will be interesting if snugboro b or ballina utd can take the lead first but good luck to all the teams today
moy villa v snug b= home
conn ran v ballina utd= home
charlestown v claremorris b= away
glenisland v swinford b= home
next weekend then.conn rangers v charlestown.lookin forward 2 it already
Is the match definately fixed for next week? Credit to Claremorris today they could have been 3 up in the first half we were way off the pace. Few words said in dressin room and we were different team the second half and think we were just about worth the win in the end. Well done to Moy Villa on winning the league anyway fair play to them...
yeah claremorris had chances but did not take them, charlestown took theirs and deserved it good luck in the play offQuote:
Originally Posted by murphs jewels
congrates to moy villa on winning division 2
Well done to Moy Villa, and well done to all the people who posted on this thread this year; it was by far the most entertaining of all the mayo divisional threads. best of luck to Charlestown and Conn in the play-offs.
well i would assume that next week will be match time as its getting late in the year
Congrats to Moy Villa, well deserved winners. Good luck to Charlestown and Conn Ranger, both are very good teams and either would do well in Div 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by minivan man
Echo that.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoelM
Well done to all teams this year great division and great finish to the season.
When and where is the play-off? Will it be in milebush or will the ML allow it on the holy grail that is their county surface? Dont remember any play-off's allowed there in the past but they will find it hard to get another club to allow the game given the time of year and conditions prommised this week.
No date for play-off yet. Its not on next weekend anyway as ive just seen the upcoming fixtures. Surly the ML wont let this drag on too long. Should be down for weekend after next given that both teams are available and milebush is free?
It only goes to show you how much you support local soccer. All the play off games as far as I can remember were in Milebush over several seasons. I remember it being said on several occasions at league meetings that it was giving an opportunity to clubs to play at the venue. It appears as if you are one of those that never attended any of those games. Anyway well done to Moy Villa on winning the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back n the game
I know it just fine and I also know that Bangor Hibs played Kilmore in a promotion relegation play-off in a neutral venue (Erris)as did Ballyheane b and Charlestown Athletic (Attymass) last year. Maybe you should do a little research before comming on here talking tripe. There was only play-offs between 3rd bottom of the 1st division and winner of 2nd placed team play off in division 2a & 2b up until last year when they decided to do it with the SL. And I also recall that Ballyheane B played 3 play off games last year without setting foot in Milebush. So please dont speak to me about not knowing my local soccer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bestie
Lots of useless proposals come up at so called league meetings but when it comes to the crunch only the top divisional sides are allowed to play in milebush (unless its cup final or semi final stage)
Our playoff against Ballyheane B was in Manulla last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back n the game
What a load of rubbish these playoffs are. Rangers clearly are ahead of Charlestown on goal difference and should go up. Whats the point in goal difference if its doesnt mean diddley squat. If a club can manage to score a good quantity of goals they should be rewarded for this. Thats what goals are for! More dragged out time for the league
is it true that its on da 13th of december?
Goal difference has never come into it in Mayo football and to be honest it should. But you can count yourself lucky or else ye could have been staring down the barrel of 2 massive humiliating defeats in Snugboro. If goal difference was a factor then ye could be staring at 2 embarrasing defeats in 2 weeks ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pixiehead
The only one talking tripe is yourself to suggest in your earlier post that you do not remember any play off games being in Milebush in the past. That is totally false. I saw many play off games in Milebush over the years. Last year may have been different for whatever the reasons but you are wrong to say no games. Check the facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back n the game
Well done Villa on Title win.
It's fitting for this forum(as 50% of posts related to them) that Charlestown and Conn will meet in the play off...should be interesting....Charlestown for me.
Thought it strange that ML didn't appoint 3 officials for the Charlestown v Claremorris B match yesterday given it was must win for both...unfair on ref
I think the Mayo Leagues decision not to go by goal difference is well vindicated by yesterdays results when you see Moy rattling in 9 goals against a team that beat them twice already this year. What happened Snugboro? It didn't matter, but could have.
This is our 4th play-off in 5 years and we have not played any in milebush thus far. We played Ballyheane b in attymass last year and a couple of years ago we played Ballina Utd in foxford and on another occasion s&f b in swinford so from our point of view milebush has never been made available for any play-off's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bestie
And its official that the play-off is down for the 13th of December. What a joke a month after the final game, how are guys going to keep interested and fit for a month. Once again the ML give little or no respect to lower divisional teams.
How should we count ourselfs lucky? Our goal difference didnt matter a monkeys to us. It should stand to the teams that are joint in points. Theres no doubt that our score lines were embarrasing but thats my point. If you snooze you lose!!!! Every other league in the world does itQuote:
Originally Posted by murphs jewels
Lucky because if our gaffer hadn't taken off our 2 strikers the day we played ye, we would have reached double figures. We knew the goal difference rule counts for nothing in Mayo and therefore didnt want to humiliate ye, if it had mattered then there would have been a different story.Quote:
Originally Posted by pixiehead
Still its interesting to note that ye conceeded as many goals in the final 2 games (14) as ye had all season!! what happened why a total collapse?? From the tightest defence in all divisions to a free for all :confused:
"our Gaffer"......gimme a break :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by murphs jewels