i think scotland could win....
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i think scotland could win....
I'd say Scotland have a better chance than England. But similarly, I have a chance of being hit by lightning, pulling Angelina Jolie and winning the lottery all in the one day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
Similar odds.
I'll be rooting on the Scots and hope they do it. Argentina are obviously favourites but if Scotland keep the penalty count against them low and make sure they take any chances that comes their way then it could be close. I'm sure the Scots have been giving their full back plenty of high balls in anticipation of the aerial bombardment that is due to come his way this Sunday.....
New Zealand should beat France in style but they haven't faced a challenge yet and could be caught cold. Very strange selections from Laporte if I'm being honest though - looks like another team will be doing a lot of kicking this weekend.....
I hope Australia pulverise England as the boks did a few weeks ago. The Aussies attacking play should cut them to shreds. I'll also be rooting for Fiji to pull off another shock, they need a good start if they are to have any chance of suppressing the boks.
A few Kiwi friends of mine still talk about how much they paid touts for World Cup final tickets before they played France in the semis in 1999 so heavily were they favoured....... :)
France can turn it on at a moments notice, wouldn't write them off.
Arguably AB's peaked about the same time as Ireland based on their mediocre Tri-Nations form.
All Blacks, Boks, Argentina and Australia for me.
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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
yeah but if they are represent ireland, the least you could expect is them to play the national anthem:rolleyes:
but you are right........im not into rugby at all, so i dont really care about it too much, im a football man 100%
Argentina have hit form bang on time for this tournament - id be amazed if Scotland got within 15 points of them let alone turn them over. All this talk about Scotland "taking thier chances" is bluff - they are useless.
Unfortunately i suspect South africa are going to thrash Fiji who have already played thier final. Any remote chance Fiji had is gone now that Nicky Little is out injured.
Australia should again have far too much for England - England haven't done much but with Wilkinson in the team could make it a competitive enough game. Good game for the Aussie -nothing like playing against England to keep them focused.
New Zealand can only beat themselves at this stage - they have shown beyond doubt that they are better than France. France are going to try and pin the All Blacks in thier own half as much as possible and hope they can front up as best they can. A risky strategy - any loose kicks could be disasterous - i think they would be better off playing as open as possible and attack from everywhere but to be honest - New Zealand are so powerful it should make no difference.
SA v Arg, NZ v Aus in semis
I'll be cheering on france tomorrow night, I'd love to see them win the whole thing! They are a great entertaning team and unprecditable too.
Argentina should beat Scotland but it's the first time they've been favourites so they could bottle it
South Africa and Fiji is a no contest, South Africa will win easily
Australia and England I reckon will be tight, but quality should prevail by the end, Australia just...
They aren't. They are representing the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Wrong thread for you perhaps?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Absolutely. But they've managed to beat themselves in the last 4 World Cups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
The weight of national expectation is huge.
They were favourites v Ireland....Quote:
Originally Posted by JGKyne
I can't see Argentina losing to Scotland. All Argentina need to do is not give away penalties within kicking range because the Scots aren't going to score a try. I think Argentina will win by 14+ points and I'll be betting on this.
But generally speaking I haven't been impressed by any of the Six Nations at all this World Cup so I expect to see the Tri-Nations and Argentina in the semis.
Slight favourites, alot of pundits/fans thought Ireland would still win the game but not get the required bonus point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
They are clear favourites for this game, so they could underestimate scotland
I've €40 riding on the Argies to reach the final
I agree. Not giving away silly penalties is vital as Paterson is a fantastic kicker.Quote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
I think I might do a 4 way Southern Hemisphere accumulator. No such thing as a safe bet but any of the 3 Northern Hemisphere teams (or Fiji) winning would be a surprise.
I'm firewalled from gambling sites at work, anyone know what accumulated odds would be for the above?
4/7 off the top of my head
Other way around surely? Was expecting 7/4-2/1?Quote:
Originally Posted by Soko
Using paddypower odds; Aus (1/6), NZ (1/6), SA (1/200), Arg (1/6 ) A €10 accumulator will give you €15.96 back
Those are fierce bad odds.:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Better having a punt on France methinks....
On GameBookers its Aus (2/9), NZ (2/11), SA (1/33) & Arg (2/11), A €10 accumulator will give you €17.60 back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Very short odds on NZ as 8/11 to win when they probably have to beat France, Australia & South Africa. :eek:
I still have Australia e/w to win but I would make SA favourites given their route & the final. 11/4 to win not bad.
Argentina are 16/1 to win outright so e/w would be reasonable.
o/t definitely but did anyone read the part serialisation of trevor brennan's autob? Gave one very funny anecdote of Michelak getting wound up by some of his team mates.
Apparently he's a part-time builder, and had started to build a 5 ft wall in front of a team mates front door, realised he was at the wrong house then trapsed across the garden to the house next door and proceeded to build a 6 ft wall inf ront of that house!
GAs stuff.
I think France have the best chance for a shock.
I´ll be cheering for England against Australia, not with any expectations though. I see Mike Catt is playing, some athlete at the age of 36.
England beat Australia.
Fair play to them I suppose. Just goes to show the difference between them and us. On the big stage, they can do it.
Fully deserved victory I thought.
Good, structured rugby, good in set-pieces, mauled the Aussies in the scrum, the forwards were fantastic.
One tactic that surprised me was that England kept it close at every opportunity. 22 drop outs and so on, never kicked down field, Wilkinson kept it close, they clearly fancied themselves at the breakdown.
Australia were poor, too many turnovers, and they need a better goal kicker.
Australia were abismal. England killed them in the forwards but far too many mistakes from Australia. Depressing to see them in the semi final. Have to hope NZ win now as I think England could take France.
I'm praying for a kiwi victory tonight for that very reason!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Australia were dreadful. Looked ok going forward but as we find out if you can't get good quality ball and your pack is going backwards your screwed.
I don't think England were anything special today but they competed well at the breakdown and had the Aussies in all sorts of trouble in the scrum. Their 6,7 and 8 won a lot of ball and deserve a lot of credit. England have to pray they rack up the penalties because when they meet the big guns (New Zealand/France) they don't have the quality to take their try scoring opportunities. They had a good bit of ball in the oppositions 22 today but couldn't do anything with it. I bet Ashton buys Rolland a pint or two tonight!!!
Although it grieved me to see England win I thought Rolland was excellent today. Gave the Aussies every opportunity to sort out their scrum before penalising them. Nor did he allow Gregan to referee he game as he usually like to. All the other penalties for both sides were clear cut. Some of the Auusie indiscipline was unbelievable and it cost them in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
I'd say there is a good chance of Rolland getting the final, although if France didn't make it could be Joel Jutge.
I thought so too, I wasn't having a go at him. It's just a pity he is Irish and couldn't have reffed some of our games. Would he be allowed to ref England again in the Semi?Quote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
NZ look to be struggling. Wouldn't be surprised to see France shade it.
bloody hell the kiwi's choke again. Remember the first two weeks of the world cup when the northern hemisphere teams were supposed to be light years behind their southern counterparts? If Scotland beat Argentina the WC semi finals will have 3 teams from the 6 nations!!!
The biggest surprise was the lack of depth NZ had on the bench. None of their replacements made any impact where all the French replacements contributed positively.
The other surprising aspect was their lack of composure particularly when the mounted their last few attacks, typified by the ridiculous drop goal attempt at the end from the worst field position they had in that last five minutes.
England must be laughing tonight and unless France can string together good back to back perfomances, something they don't often do, it could be well be England in the final. :eek:
diid they not have an advantage that they thought would come f he missed but they were too late and the advantage was gone? im not sure though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
I was surprised the all blacks chocked because france weren't particularly good. Carter was quite poor, he tred 2 of the stupidest kicks when he was in his own 22 but got lucky both tmes.
France were 9/1 when they were 13-0 down, i was gonna bet on them but i didnt bother. argh! It was a definite forward pass for the jauzion try.
I also felt sivivatu ws completely anonymous.
Great to hear a rendition of the fields in the 1st half!
Im guessing it will be a france south
France thoroughly deserved the victory.
Painful to watch the world´s nr 1 try to batter their way to try line. And then they knock on or get turned over with inches to go :) I loved that bit.
Sorry, I just don´t like the All Blacks teutonic rugby.
I thought France were magnificent. A victory for the team with some flair.
They withstood the battering ram of NZ Rugby, reminded a bit of Ali's rope a dope, popping out now and again with the killer blows.
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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
ok so why not play the two then, the Irish and british anthems together? i wouldnt have a problem with that!
no im sorry its not the wrong thread........i follow all sports (as a gambler i have to!;)), but i didnt give a toss about Ireland and was more than happy to see them beaten
anyway.................great to see my bet France (at 6/1) still in it, even if they are not the best French team i have ever seen
and i fancy Scotland to beat the Argies today, esp with all the frees they will be giving away
Great! I watched it on tv last night, the Haka was great up close. As usual Michalak ;) worked his magic for France. That Jesus look-a-like Chabal is scary :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Giuly
Glad France won, they deserved it
I thought Chabal is a stand in for Gérard Depardieu
I thought the All Blacks didn't deserve to lose, but neither did they deserve to win. Make sense?
Another good game between Fiji and south Africa. 20-20 with 20 mins to go, but the big South African pack cleaned up late on, winning 37-20. Some great running from Fiji though.
The turning point today was at 20-20 when Fiji were on the SA line until they knocked on. A few minutes later SA scored a 7 point try.
The 2nd try by Fiji was maybe try of the tournament although Fiji have a few other contenders too.
:cool:
Its always great to see NZ lose