Swansea owners probably shouting at Martin to STFU talking down an asset they're hoping to sell the week the transfer window opens.
Printable View
Swansea owners probably shouting at Martin to STFU talking down an asset they're hoping to sell the week the transfer window opens.
I suppose the big difference between Obafemi and Connolly is that Obafemi is a genuine goalscorer and will be given more rope as his kind of player is always in demand. Obviously he won't get an infinite number of chances all the same, but someone will take a chance on him at a decent level if Swansea want him out.
Connolly isn't a great finisher and his game is more about working hard to make chances, which means with his apparent attitude issues he's going to be more expendable and sooner if he doesn't have a proper reset in 2023.
Mick has shown consistently poor attitude throughout his career. Let’s see if Burnley reignite their interest, certainly Swans more open to selling in this window you’d imagine
Swansea messed him about in August should have taken the 8 or 10 million they clearly were willing to sell just wanted to get extra from Burnley. Cooper seems to talk alot to the press unnecessarily about players which really is disrespectful and can't help the relationships with the players.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy_c12000
Hopefully moves on in Jan and Swansea get close to the money they would have got in August.
Martin? Problem for Mick is that he has shown form at Southampton too for being unprofessional. And the Irish saga too. He’s clearly has an attitude problem that’s not improving as he ages. Hopefully he can get a move and stops throwing his toys out of the pram
Not in the squad again today, so it looks like the January transfer window could be a big one for him...
Looks like he could be on his way to Burnley if the internet is to be believed today. Would be brilliant move for him.
Komapmy wont take is cr*p so i would say he has one chance and one chance only with himQuote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Not even on the bench today for the FA cup
He is as good as gone if anyone in the championship wants him
If he wasn't a baby he would be a premier league player
Do Burnley really need him I wonder? Top scorers in the division by a distance (52 v 44), 14 points clear of third, 10 league wins in 11, goals coming from all around the team so they're not reliant on one forward and hoping he doesn't get injured.
Jan-May Obafemi would of course be an addition, but Aug-Dec Obafemi could be like Asprilla signing for Newcastle. Just not sure if it's worth the risk for them.
Time will tell I guess.
Well for his sake I hope they do, he's heavily invested here & it'll be a hard lesson if they aren't. He's taking some criticism for how he has gone about it but Jason Knight could do with having his agent maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Here's one. Do Southampton need him?!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
And if he put the head down and worked hard rather than throw the toys out of the pram when the move didn't happen he might have had better offers come January or in the summer. Now we're wondering if Burnley would still even have interest in him at this stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
Wout Weghorst linked with a move to United today, might help Obafemi's move to Burnley through
Who is United ?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Manchester. They're scrounging around for cover for Martial since Ronaldo exploded.
Sad to think that the one player who looks to have the ability out of anyone talked about or seen in the last few years just doesn't have the attitude to match. Maybe just a sign of the type of character(s) being produced nowadays.
Don't think Swansea are gonna get much more Obafemi. He hasn't brought his form from the start of the year into this season, his contract is running down, and he made it very clear in August that he wants out of Swansea.
They can play hardball and let him sit in the stands till the summer but will be screwing themselves more than Obafemi.
Would expect Swansea to hold out until deadline day and hope they get the highest price possible. Can't see anyone paying much more than 3m for him.
That'll fairly backfire if Burnley land someone else though?
Awful decision by Swansea not to let him go in August. It's cost them about a million quid for every goal he's scored since then.
Yeah of course, it's risky.
To try and better explain my point, Swansea have no leg to stand on in the negotiations as they clearly have to sell. They have the entire window to get the best deal they can. It looks like they are going to be patient and see if they can get a better offer in the next 3 weeks.
But you'd assume they'll just have to take whatever the best offer is come deadline day. The closer they are to the deadline the less leverage other teams will have as the buying team will also have a sense of urgency to a deal done.
But at the same time I've no idea how any of it works so maybe everything I've just said is absolute nonsense.
I wouldn't say awful decision at the time. Burnley came in on deadline day trying to buy their starting CF which left Swansea no time to sort any replacements if they did consider selling.
Just looks a poor decision now because they'll likely get half what Burnley offered in the summer and Obafemi was nowhere near the player that he was at the start of the year.
They'll get a better offer from Burnley. Makes sense for them to low ball starting out and work their way up to 4m let's say rather than come straight in with 4m and have Swansea possibly turn it down hoping to get more if Burnley were willing to start at 4m. Would be somewhat confident he'll be a Burnley player before the months finished.Quote:
Originally Posted by yurt
Quote from his managerQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
"I absolutely love the kid. It's just difficult sometimes because of the situation.
I can't believe the stuff being written about a lad who has scored a couple of Ireland's best goals ever and is simply a striker with an ego.
I remember watching an interview with Robbie when he was 17:
"Who are ya playing next week, Robbie?
I dunno....but I'll probably score against them!"
Let the goalscoring forward have a big ego and hope he gets the right move. FFS!
I'd say Robbies application was never called into question. No issues with an Ego. Well I do but I'll make exception for a guy who can score lots of goals for Ireland!
Brian O'Driscoll and Robbie Keane were both captains of Ireland at same time. It was unbelievable the amount of people I knew that at the time said they didnt like Robbie because he was too cocky and he should be more like O'Driscoll. Even today I think Robbie doesn't get the respect he deserves.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
On Obafemi, I wouldnt rule out the possibility that he acted the b0llix a bit this season to make sure that Swansea were forced to sell him. Burnley probably guaranteed him they would be back in for him after it didnt happen on deadline day and its in their interest if he did all he could to keep the price down. IF he had gone and scored 10 goals his price would be double. Clubs screw players over all the time so I dont have an issue when a player makes a decision to help himself.
I agree with your take here on Obafemi. He owes Swansea nothing. Burnley was a great move at a good price at the time. I give him the benefit of the doubt on that basis. He needs to prove himself there fairly quick though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Yeah a bit of an ego is grand if you're backing it up. Keane wasn't that bad anyway. He's not the brightest lad but saying you're going to score goals as a striker is just saying what your job is. Obafemi seems to have different issues though. Keane wanted to play football. Does Obafemi?Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Hope this one pans out for the kid. It would be nice if one of him and Connolly could turn things around.
Obafemi wants to play football, just not for Swansea! Who knows what happened on deadline day, he might have been guaranteed a move only for them to change their mind last minute. If I was in a job who I feel took advantage of me or messed me around Im not sure how inclined Id be to want to work for them anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by ontheotherhand
Im not saying thats definitely what happened, and there is a history of issues with him from his Southampton days too, Im just saying that I dont think its as simple as this fella has a bad attitude and doesnt want to play football.
Burnley have agreed a fee for South African striker Lyle Foster (22, 1.85m) of Belgian club KVC Westerlo; 21 appearances(17 starts), 8 goals and 4 assists. I wonder if Kompany's interest in Obafemi has cooled?
Burnley need a couple of strikers. Barnes and Rodriguez are out of contract in the summer.
Seems like a good move on the face of it, but will he play regularly/settle?
We'll have to see. He's an exciting talent with the capacity to score out of nothing - useful given the passive, rather impotent brand of football we're playing these days.
The knock-on effect may be that Ogbene leaves relegation-threatened Rotherham for Swansea, which would be a very positive move from an Irish point of view.
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how he gets on between now and May. He can't really afford to leave a third club under a cloud at his age. I think he's done well to get the move all things considered; up to him to make it work now.
He's a talented lad, no doubt about it. That's why he keeps getting chances, despite everything. Pacy, a good passer and a genuine goalscorer - that combination will always keep clubs interested. But at the same time, if he's not professional off the field, Burnley will bomb him out of the squad quickly enough. He has four months now to show he's worth another go in the Premier League, in a team that will make plenty of chances for him. Up to him to take this massive opportunity he's being given.
Start regularly probably not but regular minutes off the bench to begin with I'd say. Kompany probably trying to get this pushed through now to get him in so he can settle into the Burnley way and up to speed for next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trequartista20
Burnley wouldn't need to make any signings this month and would still walk the league. What's being done now is Burnley getting their business done now rather than in the summer.
A bit more background to the 'try before you buy' Burnley approach for Obafemi: https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/footba...mi-to-burnley-
You'd imagine Kompany isn't the type of manager to take any sh*te from his players and could well be the right manager at the right time for Obafemi. Great move for him.
I cant access that at work, but would it just make sense given Burnely were relegated and had those financial issues they could offer an agreed fee that would be paid by the summer when Promotion and payments inline with promotion come in they can actually make the payment? As part of that paying wages and perhaps offering a bit more would tie the agreement over until summer.