Again with goals & aspirations? If its one thing clubs don't lack its goals & aspirations...
What they do lack is money to pay for these improvements
Again with goals & aspirations? If its one thing clubs don't lack its goals & aspirations...
What they do lack is money to pay for these improvements
You should really educate your self as to what Grade 4 entails and then come back to us. Its not as attainable as you believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Also, a European licence is a step above a league licence. So licencing does already cover at least part of the step up there anyway.
Educate yourself. I've seen the UEFA document on the grades. Wouldn't be posting on the subject had I not.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
I don't doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
you clearly haven't because you seem to think that we can get up to grade 4 overnight. we for one don't have the room to get up to grade 4 and if were to realistically get up to that level wed more than likely need to leave Turners CrossQuote:
Originally Posted by legendz
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Originally Posted by El-Pietro
You clearly can't read or need to educate yourself. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
With just the relegation/promotion play-off to come, we could nearly start predictions on how the divisions will line-up at the start of next year, not many leagues could make a prediction competition based on that at a season's end! My own prediction for the start of next season is 12 & 12 of:
Premier Division:
Shamrock Rovers
Sligo Rovers
Derry City
St. Patrick's Atheltic
Bohemians
Bray Wanderers
Dundalk
UCD
Drogheda
Cork City
Shelbourne
Monaghan Utd
First Division:
Galway Utd
Limerick FC
Waterford Utd
Longford Town
Mervue Utd
Athlone Town
Finn Harps
Wexford Youths
Salthill
FC Carlow
Tralee Dynamos
Cobh Ramblers
[QUOTE=legendz;1547602]With just the relegation/promotion play-off to come, we could nearly start predictions on how the divisions will line-up at the start of next year, not many leagues could make a prediction competition based on that at a season's end! My own prediction for the start of next season is 12 & 12 of:
Premier Division:
Shamrock Rovers
Sligo Rovers
Derry City
St. Patrick's Athelt
UCD
Drogheda
Cork City
Shelbourne
Monaghan Utd
First Division:
Limerick FC
Waterford Utd
Longford Town
Mervue Utd
Licence doubts over anyone else if you read foot.ie or extratime.ie
Monaghan may not be in the playoffs, there is still the question of the points they were awarded by FAI for the Harps game...
I reckon the playoffs will get delayed while that gets sorted properly
Oh sweet mother of divine god..... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Was this not already resolved?Quote:
Originally Posted by leedsfan88
What, no trip to Dublin?Quote:
Originally Posted by blue til i die
Bohs might well be your trip to the big shmoke yet.
Geezer, I doubt if all those clubs you mentioned will be guaranteed a licence either.
Any hear if Salthill or Wexford will be entering the league next season? Word is that both will opt out.
Possibly only 18 clubs left, 1 league possibly?
Tralee, Carlow and Cobh would be mental to come into the 1st Division.
From what I've heard no its not been fully resolved and Limerick have grounds to appeal to a higher court or UEFAQuote:
Originally Posted by CSFShels
Can't imagine you'll have any luck with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by leedsfan88
So it's resolved thenQuote:
Originally Posted by leedsfan88
I'd have thought Wexford would be staying put unless and until Wallace's assets have been frozen, but after that they'd have no choice in the matter. As for Tralee, Carlow and Cobh, they know the levels of cash required, but it's either stay senior or go back to playing Fenit, Rockmount and Newbridge respectively every week. I'd broadly agree with Legendz's divisions - the League needs that many teams as insurance for Galway, Bohs etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy
Would be fantastic to see Limerick back in prem with the finances in order and new facilities coming to have a disgraceful decision by the FAI hand promotion to Monaghan would be an injustice
Mons are playing Keith Quinn and John Reilly tonight as they agree with Limerick that suspensions should not count. Also seeking to get Finn Harps 2-2 draw in March replayed as Monaghan were forced to not play Declan O'Brien after he had been sent off playing for ANOTHER TEAM in ANOTHER SEASON.
Limerick logic. Bore off.
Well that'll draw the crowds:pQuote:
Originally Posted by legendz
We did it on the pitch Monaghan didnt .... So any news on tonights match been called offQuote:
Originally Posted by monsexile
What you did on the pitch was finish one point short of what you needed to do. I wonder will Limerick have spent more on lawyers than on Gamble, Behan and Gaffney by the end of the year.
If you have it spend it, is what I always say....I suppose you could call it a motto:)Quote:
Originally Posted by monsexile
Or whether you have it or not spend it anyway...well thats what the rest of the league says! ;P Worked for the Corkies and they are back with a bang lol
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Originally Posted by monsexile
On the pitch we got 1 point more than Monaghan.
There is still a lot to come out on this but not my place to be revealing anything.
Very mysterious. Has already been taken to FAI appeal and then rejected in arbritation, the European Court of Human Rights must be clearing their case schedule to make room for another farcical waste of Limerick money. Even Harps have accepted the decision and taken their punishment.Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
How much was Harps fine?Quote:
Originally Posted by monsexile
It was never heard in arbitration
€2,500 I think it was. Money we can't afford.Quote:
Originally Posted by harpin
Just to be clear, Limerick are complaining that the FAI is enforcing the rules correctly?
I think their point is that the FAI did not enforce their own rules correctly. I think if they're willing to take it to court that they'd have a good case.
Are Limerick arguing that the norm is to deduct 3 points from the offending team rather than award all the points to the other team? To be honest, I think I can remember both of those scenarios happening at different times in the past so hard to tell what the precedent would be...
Kilkenny were deducted points (and then got them back). Pats recieved a points deduction. Cant recall points being awarded tbh....vaguely Shels maybe?
I'm fairly certain the FAI changed their rules within the past 5 years.
Specifically to both punish the offending club, and reward the 'honest' club who had been disadvantaged by the ineligible player playing
(The example usually giving is that if TEAM A only require a draw to stay ahead of TEAM B, and they played each other in the last game, the old rule wouldn't stop TEAM A playing 6 ineligible players jusst to win the game, even with the knowledge they'd be deducted those 3 points)
EDIT; last season (2010) Salthill awarded 3-0 win after Wexford played an ineligible player
It's standard practice for the team that infringed to forfeit the match.Quote:
Originally Posted by holidaysong
A points deduction would make sense if Harps had lost the match as a walkover wouldn't be any sort of punishment. For Limerick to argue that Mons shouldn't get the points from a match in which they were placed at an unfair advantage is just bizarre.
Rule 35 here in the FAI rule book is purposefully vague, but that's only to account for whether the offending club won, lost or drew.
To clarify- I think Limerick would argue that the player was never suspended as the official notification was never sent.
Ah! Now that is a plausible argument. But once again a messy business especially with the play-off tonight
Get over it. Limerick have the money for the first time years because a geniune football man, in Pat' O Sullivan has invested in the club. Many clubs in the past few years have spent money they didn't have to be successfull in both tiers and Limerick were always spending within their means doing things properly while these clubs took all the sucess and when they were put down to the First Divsion it was Limerick that suffered as the likes of Derry, Cork had the resources to do well even though they spent money they didn't have. Limerick got it this year and have been building a very good team and unfortunatly were good enough on the pitch at the end but points rewarded off the pitch were enough to keep Limerick down.Quote:
Originally Posted by monsexile
Mons got the points they needed on the pitch. They fielded a valid team against Harps and got three points for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
Harps have to be punished, the result cannot stand as it was not a valid game, Mons have to be awarded the points. Why is this so difficult?
Are Limerick seriously trying to argue the result should stand or the game be replayed or what?
From my understanding: They're arguing that the player was not suspended and that therefore the result of the match should stand.