Sporting Fingal Gone Belly Up

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23/12/2010, 10:54 AM
Mario

http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...3-2471618.html

"Approximately 40pc of the population of Fingal lives in Dublin 15. We have long been conscious of the fact that Santry is not an easy place to get to from this area. Phibsborough, however, is readily accessible by public transport from most parts of the county."

More comical ali talk from Fingal ...

If Bohs with their "success" cant make a go of it financially and get decent crowds into Dalymount, what hope have Fingal minus Gannons cash got?
23/12/2010, 11:09 AM
Dodge

They haven't. I think they've realised that Morton is awful and in the absence of home fans they're hoping that more away fans will head to Dalymount

Hilariously, next yer it'll cost Bohs fans €20 to watch Bohs v Fingal and €10 to watch Fingal v Bohs
23/12/2010, 11:15 AM
holidaysong

Didn't Dublin City play in Dalymount the year they folded?
23/12/2010, 11:21 AM
pineapple stu

They did, yeah.
23/12/2010, 11:22 AM
legendz

Funny alright. 4 times next season they are going to come head-to-head in Dayler. Fingal can offer Boh's fans two for the price of one.
23/12/2010, 11:31 AM
holidaysong

Quote:

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

They did, yeah.

I don't suppose you have attendance figures going back that far but it'd be interesting to see if DC had much variation in crowds between Whitehall, Dalymount and also Inchicore was it?

It just sounds like Fingal are clutching at straws to justify this move. The only benefits will be for away fans who won't have to stand on that terrace in Santry.
23/12/2010, 11:40 AM
pineapple stu

I think the attendance threads go back to about 2003. Links should be in the resources sticky at the top of the forum. But to be honest, it'd be impossible to say if any differences were down to location as much as away support changes.
23/12/2010, 6:40 PM
Spudulika

Isn't it lovely to see the trolls out eagerly salivating for another club to collapse. Really guys, it's depressing the negativity on show, no wonder our league is in the merde with such great fans, if only there were actual supporters out there. Good luck to them in Dalyer, and I hope Bohs are Premier too as it'll be a better venue with more action.
23/12/2010, 6:56 PM
passerrby

I would regret the demise of bohs and most other clubs from the LOI however I do not feel the same for fingal as a club that was established for reasons other than football and attempted to buy success.
23/12/2010, 7:15 PM
Spudulika

Quote:

Originally Posted by passerrby

I would regret the demise of bohs and most other clubs from the LOI however I do not feel the same for fingal as a club that was established for reasons other than football and attempted to buy success.

I hate to be the one to point it out to you, however since it was a response to my post it's just kind of normal. You've just said Fingal were established for reasons other than football, true, they play a large role in a number of community development programmes and initiatives that have been very successful - I've personal experience of this in the area my parents live in. So true on that one.

Your regret the demise of Bohs, but not Sporting Fingal - because you veer towards the latter buying their way to success. Hmm, odd that, I thought the ott contracts, bank loans and squandering of the good will and support of loyal supporters would be classed as attempting to buy success. Similar to Shels, Cork, Derry etc. Or is there another reason why you'd prefer to see a league club go out of existence?
23/12/2010, 7:26 PM
Charlie Darwin

Quote:

Originally Posted by passerrby

I would regret the demise of bohs and most other clubs from the LOI however I do not feel the same for fingal as a club that was established for reasons other than football and attempted to buy success.

They DID buy success.
23/12/2010, 7:31 PM
Buile Shuibhne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mario

http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...3-2471618.html

"Approximately 40pc of the population of Fingal lives in Dublin 15. We have long been conscious of the fact that Santry is not an easy place to get to from this area. Phibsborough, however, is readily accessible by public transport from most parts of the county."

More comical ali talk from Fingal ...

If Bohs with their "success" cant make a go of it financially and get decent crowds into Dalymount, what hope have Fingal minus Gannons cash got?

If they did manage to secure any new supporters from Dublin 15, what happens when they go to Lusk?

Quote:

and have long-term plans to move to Lusk -- although the club are currently engaged in a search for investment that could impact upon their future, after the loss of main benefactor Gerry Gannon

How do they access the arsehole of Lusk from D15?
23/12/2010, 7:35 PM
Charlie Darwin

I don't think anybody seriously believes Lusk will ever happen.
23/12/2010, 7:38 PM
Dunny

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

I don't think anybody seriously believes Lusk will ever happen.

Apart from Spingal fan(s)
23/12/2010, 9:21 PM
total hoofball

tick tock, tick tock, tick tock

Quote:

On the brink
Lack of finance could spell the end for Sporting Fingal

By Robin KIELY
Wednesday December 22 2010

SPORTING Fingal FC could be on the brink of extinction in its current form, just three years after it was established, unless a new investor is found, the Fingal Independent can reveal. The club's general manager, Joe Corr, stepped down from his post before the weekend, which followed the resignation of chairman Gerry Gannon last month.

http://www.fingal-independent.ie/pre...k-2468751.html

Again, if some kind individual with access or a scanner can throw the full story up that would be nice

With Bohs so dependent on this Dalyer rent money Sporting Fingal's death could kill Bohs in one fell swoop!
23/12/2010, 11:20 PM
Lamper.sffc

Joe will be a loss alright. Very good for the club and always had the best interests of the club at heart. :(
24/12/2010, 12:32 AM
The Lep

[QUOTE=Buile Shuibhne;1436311]If they did manage to secure any new supporters from Dublin 15, what happens when they go to Lusk?

They sit in a nice new stadium watching football.

How do they access the arsehole of Lusk from D15?[/QUOTE]

Down the M50 and the M1 and follow the signs to Lusk.
24/12/2010, 12:34 AM
The Lep

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

They DID buy success.

Who hasnt?
24/12/2010, 12:42 AM
L.T.F.C.

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24/12/2010, 12:43 AM
The Lep

Quote:

Originally Posted by holidaysong

I don't suppose you have attendance figures going back that far but it'd be interesting to see if DC had much variation in crowds between Whitehall, Dalymount and also Inchicore was it?

It just sounds like Fingal are clutching at straws to justify this move. The only benefits will be for away fans who won't have to stand on that terrace in Santry.

Dublin City had more in the first division in whitehall. There was over 2,000 at the last game against Bray in whitehall for the promotion . Fair enough it was swelled by a large Bray support which seems to be more than they have regulary now but it also seemed to be more home fans as well than there had been when Dublin city was in the premier. Fingal's attendance is already far greater than what city's was. there is a genuine reason for the move and not just based on trying to improve attendance.
24/12/2010, 12:48 AM
holidaysong

What is the genuine reason?
24/12/2010, 12:51 AM
The Lep

Its in the club statement.

http://www.sportingfingal.ie/News/ta...9/Default.aspx
24/12/2010, 8:59 AM
BonnieShels

So nothing new there. I wanted juice on this miserable day.
24/12/2010, 10:03 AM
Lamper.sffc

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonnieShels

So nothing new there. I wanted juice on this miserable day.

What? Christmas eve. That club of yours really does make yous the most blackhearted. :p
24/12/2010, 10:23 AM
passerrby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudulika

I hate to be the one to point it out to you, however since it was a response to my post it's just kind of normal. You've just said Fingal were established for reasons other than football, true, they play a large role in a number of community development programmes and initiatives that have been very successful - I've personal experience of this in the area my parents live in. So true on that one.

Your regret the demise of Bohs, but not Sporting Fingal - because you veer towards the latter buying their way to success. Hmm, odd that, I thought the ott contracts, bank loans and squandering of the good will and support of loyal supporters would be classed as attempting to buy success. Similar to Shels, Cork, Derry etc. Or is there another reason why you'd prefer to see a league club go out of existence?

no not at all I firmly believe it was a experiment doomed to failure sooner rather than later. I never liked the idea of parachuting teams into the league until they can show there ability to last the pace ,Bohs were foolish ,reckless even and i hope they pay the price but will survive in some form or other because of the fanbase and history.
and as i said if the powers that run the league spend more time trying to improve the clubs rather than looking for replacement clubs with even more frailities then our league might have some hope.
24/12/2010, 1:36 PM
Charlie Darwin

Quote:

Originally Posted by passerrby

no not at all I firmly believe it was a experiment doomed to failure sooner rather than later. I never liked the idea of parachuting teams into the league until they can show there ability to last the pace ,Bohs were foolish ,reckless even and i hope they pay the price but will survive in some form or other because of the fanbase and history.
and as i said if the powers that run the league spend more time trying to improve the clubs rather than looking for replacement clubs with even more frailities then our league might have some hope.

Wherever did you get the idea Fingal have more frailties than the other clubs? They have a lower than average attendance but other than that they have a much smaller debt level than any other club in the league. Their current problem is of liquidity and possibly setting their sights a little too high. That's much easier to fix than the chronic debt problems facing half last year's Premier Division.
24/12/2010, 1:53 PM
superjohnny

Who ever thought fingal would have made it longer than a few years are deluded.

Gretna are a perfect example...!! its time to wake up and smell the coffee, thay are donald ducked.
24/12/2010, 3:33 PM
Buile Shuibhne

[QUOTE=The Lep;1436345]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buile Shuibhne

If they did manage to secure any new supporters from Dublin 15, what happens when they go to Lusk?

They sit in a nice new stadium watching football.

How do they access the arsehole of Lusk from D15?[/QUOTE]

Down the M50 and the M1 and follow the signs to Lusk.

They can't even get to Morton.

Quote:

"We have long been conscious of the fact that Santry is not an easy place to get to from this area. Phibsborough, however, is readily accessible by public transport from most parts of the county."
24/12/2010, 5:11 PM
The Lep

They have cars out in D15 these days not just horses.
24/12/2010, 5:14 PM
pineapple stu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fingal Independent article

Mr Corr, meanwhile, [...] warned the majority of Irish clubs would have to turn part-time to survive

What planet is this guy on?
24/12/2010, 6:58 PM
de bowez

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lep

They have cars out in D15 these days not just horses.

Special cars that go to Lusk and Phibsboro but not Santry? Welcome to Dalymount btw, make sure to feel at home in the bars aswell.
24/12/2010, 8:06 PM
The Lep

Quote:

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

What planet is this guy on?

He has a point. Joe that is.
24/12/2010, 8:07 PM
The Lep

Quote:

Originally Posted by de bowez

Special cars that go to Lusk and Phibsboro but not Santry? Welcome to Dalymount btw, make sure to feel at home in the bars aswell.

Trust me. they went to santry as well :) Thanks for the welcome, the bars are a big plus :)
24/12/2010, 8:13 PM
Spudulika

Quote:

Originally Posted by passerrby

no not at all I firmly believe it was a experiment doomed to failure sooner rather than later. I never liked the idea of parachuting teams into the league until they can show there ability to last the pace ,Bohs were foolish ,reckless even and i hope they pay the price but will survive in some form or other because of the fanbase and history.
and as i said if the powers that run the league spend more time trying to improve the clubs rather than looking for replacement clubs with even more frailities then our league might have some hope.

And Monaghan entered the league how????/ Look, if you're going to purely go by fanbase, then Mons would be gone, you'd get rid of Mervue, Salthill, or any other club starting out, or worse still, clubs who are having hard times. You can blame the "powers that run the league" with it's ills, but Fran Gavin didn't force Nutsy to sign up whoever he could, or for clubs to pay under the table, or for Derry to by-pass Monaghan on the way back up. If you hit Fingal with the criteria you've stated, then there are a lot of clubs who deserve to be thrown out, unless they have a fanbase and history of course.
24/12/2010, 8:39 PM
pineapple stu

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lep

He has a point. Joe that is.

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25/12/2010, 6:54 AM
sullanefc

Quote:

Originally Posted by passerrby

no not at all I firmly believe it was a experiment doomed to failure sooner rather than later. I never liked the idea of parachuting teams into the league until they can show there ability to last the pace ,Bohs were foolish ,reckless even and i hope they pay the price but will survive in some form or other because of the fanbase and history.
and as i said if the powers that run the league spend more time trying to improve the clubs rather than looking for replacement clubs with even more frailities then our league might have some hope.

More fans would obviously be an advantage to help a football club survive, but I've never heard of history saving a football club. :rolleyes:

I also find it quite sad that a fan from a sh*t club like UCD is taking joy/trolling in the possible demise of Sp Fingal. If we made a league table of clubs we'd like to see go under, then UCD would be higher up than Sp Fingal.
25/12/2010, 7:46 AM
BonnieShels

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

What? Christmas eve. That club of yours really does make yous the most blackhearted. :p

Miserable because I am dying with a cold. Eugh... spring out the tiny violins.

Sullane, that's not entirely true. Nothing in essence was wrong with the creation of Spingal. What exercised everyone was how the FAI mollycoddled them at the expense of clubs that we already had that were struggling.
The other issue was that a Dublin-centric league far from needing another Dublin club actually needed less.
25/12/2010, 11:30 AM
passerrby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Wherever did you get the idea Fingal have more frailties than the other clubs? They have a lower than average attendance but other than that they have a much smaller debt level than any other club in the league. Their current problem is of liquidity and possibly setting their sights a little too high. That's much easier to fix than the chronic debt problems facing half last year's Premier Division.

qiute simply they had nothing but aspirations and a man with his own agenda that was all fingal had to offer and when he fell the whole deck of cards would follow, with no imbedded history like bohs to cusion the fall.
I was not expounding the virtues of a massive fanbase as the only way forward but was saying it should be a requisite for joingingfthe LOI otherwise you are only replacing clubs with more potentially doomed cliubs
25/12/2010, 11:58 AM
Nah Nah Nah Nah

Quote:

Originally Posted by sullanefc

More fans would obviously be an advantage to help a football club survive, but I've never heard of history saving a football club. :rolleyes:

I also find it quite sad that a fan from a sh*t club like UCD is taking joy/trolling in the possible demise of Sp Fingal. If we made a league table of clubs we'd like to see go under, then UCD would be higher up than Sp Fingal.

Oh no they wouldn't....

How are UCD a sh*t club exactly? They're in the league for over 30 years and I can't remember them ever being involved in a bad news story for the league (certainly open to correction there). I think they're a credit to the league in all the time they've been here.
25/12/2010, 12:21 PM
**FrOsTy**

And have also developed some top top players in the league

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