Mayo Division 2 2009

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Originally Posted by murphs jewels

Heard a reliable boro commitee member said early this week that this game wouldn't be played this weekend....... and as for giving up home advantage , its not like your going to get 20,000 screeming supporters at any game is it....... catch a grip. If ye wanted to play this game it could have been played simple as ..... why not leave it till later afternoon before writing it off??? Its obvious that there were some other factors from where we are standing. Some of your lads turned up while our guys were there and they were shocked that the pitch was deemed unplayable.

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OH good man yourself, one would tend to forget that if you say something it must be fact!

Would you like to ammend the constitution while you're at it?

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Originally Posted by etoo

as you said that the same ref was down to ref in the afternoon so he wouldnt ba available for it to be re-fixed during the day.
You wouldnt give up home advantage for such a crucial game no matter what you say, simple as....
plus whatever dusty tells ya committee members dont call off games. its up to the ref and im sure the ref wants a bit of extra money so he wouldnt want to call it off. from what i hear the boro had a full strenght squad for this game, never mind the A team as they have nothing to play for and wouldnt take any of the B teams starting 11 only there fringe players if they were needed to make up numbers.just play it next week and stop being such a winge just because you had to get up early:D

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Bit brave to mention someone who never said a word i think ..... you better get your facts straight before you put names up on a public forum me thinks. Plus abother fact is that the ref down for this game was not the "official" who decided the pitch was unplayable. Seems you need to do a little research before you go talking about things you know nothing about and bringing innocent personell into it :eek:. Seems like its you whose on the "fringes" of your club

Glenisland 0 Cross Celtic 1, typical end of season match with very little to play for.

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Originally Posted by murphs jewels

Heard a reliable boro commitee member said early this week that this game wouldn't be played this weekend....... and as for giving up home advantage , its not like your going to get 20,000 screeming supporters at any game is it....... catch a grip. If ye wanted to play this game it could have been played simple as ..... why not leave it till later afternoon before writing it off??? Its obvious that there were some other factors from where we are standing. Some of your lads turned up while our guys were there and they were shocked that the pitch was deemed unplayable.

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settle down - why dont you blame your guys for casting you 6 points earlier in the season and stop trying to cause an fight on here - sort out your own house before coming on here ....... then i might listen to ya .....

oh another point - the westport v snugboro a team game was call off ....

Ballina Utd 2 Swinford B 3 ....... Ballina Utd down to Div 3

[QUOTE=murphs jewels;1263138]I think you are confusing me with someone else ..... or again maybe you think you know everyone who uses this forum :confused:[/QUOTE

not confusing you with anyone kid. big man up front;)

Me thinks that the replayed Snug v Chastown match next week, will be a feisty affair....on the sidelines!!!..... a draw not much good for either now.

All still in melting pot now after Villa's win today...must make them hot favourites though?? a win and draw from last two games will be enough....Tough battle for promotion place.....could well be a play off?

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Originally Posted by murphs jewels

I think you are confusing me with someone else ..... or again maybe you think you know everyone who uses this forum :confused:[/QUOTE

not confusing you with anyone kid. big man up front

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Thought as much :D :D

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Originally Posted by sprah1

Me thinks that the replayed Snug v Chastown match next week, will be a feisty affair....on the sidelines!!!..... a draw not much good for either now.

All still in melting pot now after Villa's win today...must make them hot favourites though?? a win and draw from last two games will be enough....Tough battle for promotion place.....could well be a play off?

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was at the game. scrappy enough but villa held out and prob deserved the win in the end. Ye should fancy ypur chances against them as i heard some of them saying after the game that they can only play players registered before the original fixture... is that true?

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Originally Posted by Fish-Head

OH good man yourself, one would tend to forget that if you say something it must be fact!

Would you like to ammend the constitution while you're at it?

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Quaility!!! :D

A real renovator isnt he!!! :D

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Originally Posted by yellowmonkey

Quaility!!! :D

A real renovator isnt he!!! :D

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How childish.

Ive been following Mayo football for a long time and have been a long time fan of this Forum and can only say that if it wasn't for Murphs Jewels this thread would be dead. The only time there is any banter or chat on here is whenever he makes it happen.

Iv'e sat back all season reading the comments from all parties and iv'e come to the conclusion that there must be at least 5 Snugboro posters who have nothing to do with their time and no one else to talk to unless he gets up their nose.

I'm not saying he's right by the way but all I am saying is that this thread would be the most boring thing on this forum and you can tell that since he went quiet the whole thing moved about 3 pages once everyone had their pound of flesh.
But I would like him to clear up the Charlestown mess once and for all and maybe then everyone can put the whole thing behind them and get back to talking football instead of meaningless arguments.

Its sad really sad. And I dont want either side comming back saying its only banter because its not and you can tell its not due to all the deleated posts.

I see there is a meeting next week with MWR re getting better coverage of soccer in Mayo.
Ironic that a local paper published inaccurate info today in respect of Div 2, saying that Moy Villa need a point from final game, when in fact they have 2 games left...and need 4 points to guarantee the Title. The League table published is also incorrect. Presumably they get their info from the league?

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Originally Posted by sprah1

I see there is a meeting next week with MWR re getting better coverage of soccer in Mayo.
Ironic that a local paper published inaccurate info today in respect of Div 2, saying that Moy Villa need a point from final game, when in fact they have 2 games left...and need 4 points to guarantee the Title. The League table published is also incorrect. Presumably they get their info from the league?

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I think the whole beef with MWR though maybe justified is a bit one dimentional. If MWR are to come in for critisism then the league has to look at the Mayo Advertiser and the Mayo News. The devotion of the Mayo news to GAA is almost sickly while the advertiser should just stop embarrasing itself with its minute hear say it borrowed off the earlier in the week rags. You have to commend the Con-tele for their coverage ,however if Tom Kelly wasnt a Soccer man would they too be in the mix? Im sure they would! Thus the media as a whole should be pin pointed for a ear twisting.

Ive been following Mayo football for a long time and have been a long time fan of this Forum and can only say that if it wasn't for Murphs Jewels this thread would be dead. The only time there is any banter or chat on here is whenever he makes it happen.

Maybe the thread might be dead but theres no need for him to start talking complete rubbish. thats why the 5 snugboro heads answer him bach when we know hes wrong, which we are entitled to do.

As Murphs Jewels is gone now we should have no more stupid arguments or theories so it should be back talking about football.

Big game the weekend. between Snug and Ctown. hard to call but ill go for an 8 nil win for the boro :D

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Originally Posted by etoo

Ive been following Mayo football for a long time and have been a long time fan of this Forum and can only say that if it wasn't for Murphs Jewels this thread would be dead. The only time there is any banter or chat on here is whenever he makes it happen.

Maybe the thread might be dead but theres no need for him to start talking complete rubbish. thats why the 5 snugboro heads answer him bach when we know hes wrong, which we are entitled to do.

As Murphs Jewels is gone now we should have no more stupid arguments or theories so it should be back talking about football.

Big game the weekend. between Snug and Ctown. hard to call but ill go for an 8 nil win for the boro :D

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I aint gone nowhere pal ....... but i love your prediction :p

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Originally Posted by murphs jewels

Just to clear some things up. All players on Charlestowns books have played with this club since underage. It is at our request that the fixtures are posponed due to names submitted to the mayo league and them in turn asking us not to play certain players. We have asked for our games to be postponed until all matters are resolved and not be forced to play without a full squad. Once again i invite anybody to view our registeration books for the last number of years and see its the same players year in year out

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This is my first post reguarding the leagues position and Charlestowns subsiquint points deduction and all the above facts remain true today.

From what I understand 4 names were submitted to the ML for investigation and 2 were cleared with 1 under review and 1 guilty. The points deduction was for registeration with a club in the Sligo league. Charlestown club and manager were not found to have any involvement and were absolved of all blame or wrong doing and the Team were deducted the points for playing illegal players. From talking to the commitee and management it is clear that they had no inclination of the player playing in the Sligo league and when registration came about for the 09 season all players re-registered as they have done in the past. No one was asked if they had played in an external league because its been the same group for the 5 years and im sure as with 100's of other clubs the existing players re-registered and any new players were vetted as to their previous clubs.

Now i also know that the Charlestown manager has spoken to almost every manager in the division since the incident and im sure that they have informed players also but the general feeling is that what happened (although illegal) was not end of the world stuff. Fact of the matter was a player registered for a Sligo club to play during the winter months and keep fit he was not playing for Sligo Rovers but a club like ourselves in the lower divisions. I am not condoning what he did but the team has been the same for the last 5 years (apart for 4 or 5 new recruits) and it was not like suggested here that the club brought in players from the Sligo League.

Hope this clears some things up :ball:

Thanks for clearing that up Murphs,
I think everyone knew the situation anyway because as you've said, the Charlestown manager made it clear to anyone. Back n the game seems to be the only one out of the loop. But I can't seem to understand what he's complaining about.

He praises you for starting discussions but gives out to the Snugboro lads for replying, seemingly he wants a forum where you start topics and no one replies. Anyway, I believe the deleted posts were a different issue, and nobody has any problem with Murphs Jewels. Welcome to the Forum Back n the game, nice to have another Charlestown head in here....:)

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Originally Posted by murphs jewels

This is my first post reguarding the leagues position and Charlestowns subsiquint points deduction and all the above facts remain true today.

From what I understand 4 names were submitted to the ML for investigation and 2 were cleared with 1 under review and 1 guilty. The points deduction was for registeration with a club in the Sligo league. Charlestown club and manager were not found to have any involvement and were absolved of all blame or wrong doing and the Team were deducted the points for playing illegal players. From talking to the commitee and management it is clear that they had no inclination of the player playing in the Sligo league and when registration came about for the 09 season all players re-registered as they have done in the past. No one was asked if they had played in an external league because its been the same group for the 5 years and im sure as with 100's of other clubs the existing players re-registered and any new players were vetted as to their previous clubs.

Now i also know that the Charlestown manager has spoken to almost every manager in the division since the incident and im sure that they have informed players also but the general feeling is that what happened (although illegal) was not end of the world stuff. Fact of the matter was a player registered for a Sligo club to play during the winter months and keep fit he was not playing for Sligo Rovers but a club like ourselves in the lower divisions. I am not condoning what he did but the team has been the same for the last 5 years (apart for 4 or 5 new recruits) and it was not like suggested here that the club brought in players from the Sligo League.

Hope this clears some things up :ball:

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Thanks for clearing that up......

Now next Question - the Villa Claremorris game is on this weekend - will someone tell us the real league table as by the table - this game was already play - which team loses 3pts or was it a draw before? .... or was it play .... what is the story?

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Originally Posted by joe_denilson

Thanks for clearing that up Murphs,
I think everyone knew the situation anyway because as you've said, the Charlestown manager made it clear to anyone. Back n the game seems to be the only one out of the loop. But I can't seem to understand what he's complaining about.

He praises you for starting discussions but gives out to the Snugboro lads for replying, seemingly he wants a forum where you start topics and no one replies. Anyway, I believe the deleted posts were a different issue, and nobody has any problem with Murphs Jewels. Welcome to the Forum Back n the game, nice to have another Charlestown head in here....:)

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Think he was siding with the underdog :). Not to sure he's one of ours tho, although it would be nice to have some back up against the "5" boro lads :D

and o ya dont forget about conn rangers, i feel we will have something big to say yet in how the league finishes

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Originally Posted by Back n the game

How childish.

Ive been following Mayo football for a long time and have been a long time fan of this Forum and can only say that if it wasn't for Murphs Jewels this thread would be dead. The only time there is any banter or chat on here is whenever he makes it happen.

Iv'e sat back all season reading the comments from all parties and iv'e come to the conclusion that there must be at least 5 Snugboro posters who have nothing to do with their time and no one else to talk to unless he gets up their nose.

I'm not saying he's right by the way but all I am saying is that this thread would be the most boring thing on this forum and you can tell that since he went quiet the whole thing moved about 3 pages once everyone had their pound of flesh.
But I would like him to clear up the Charlestown mess once and for all and maybe then everyone can put the whole thing behind them and get back to talking football instead of meaningless arguments.

Its sad really sad. And I dont want either side comming back saying its only banter because its not and you can tell its not due to all the deleated posts.

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Please name the 5 of us?
If you look back over the posts for the last season both myself and Joe Denilson and etoo make constructive comments on here regularly. Most other posters will agree. Its a great way to make friends on here just coming on barking after one post!!!

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Originally Posted by yellowmonkey

Please name the 5 of us?
If you look back over the posts for the last season both myself and Joe Denilson and etoo make constructive comments on here regularly. Most other posters will agree. Its a great way to make friends on here just coming on barking after one post!!!

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Are you sure that you dont have 2 accounts on here :rolleyes: ??.

My point was that there is nothing wrong with "constructive comments" but some went beyond that and several last week were deleated.

And p.s Joe Denilson im not exactly a Charlestown fan but do think they have been the best team in this division. I watched them play Conn Rangers away and Cross Celtic at home and I think they are a pretty good side.

About time Murphs Jewels blew the lid on the whole illegal player thing. I think everyone new the story but im glad he/she finally clarified it once and for all.

And purplemonkey I dont think that your league position is as good as you think it is. The only reason Conn Rangers are in that position is because they got points off Charlestown, who in reality beat ye twice in the league this year as did Moy Villa so therefore Claremorris B and Snugboro B would above ye in the table and would deserve to be because they got their points playing football on the pitch

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Originally Posted by swinfordfc

Thanks for clearing that up......

Now next Question - the Villa Claremorris game is on this weekend - will someone tell us the real league table as by the table - this game was already play - which team loses 3pts or was it a draw before? .... or was it play .... what is the story?

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http://inform.fai.ie/League/Clubs/po...aguetable.aspx

The League Table on Mayo League site is now correct. Moy won original game, but it now is to be replayed this weekend.

[QUOTE=Back n the game;1264584]Are you sure that you dont have 2 accounts on here :rolleyes: ??.

are you sure that you dont have 2 accounts too?????:eek:
just a little bit funny you ask murph jewels to explain himself and he does straight away, when weve being asking him for months.......just a little strange that suddenly a new signing can get it out of him:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Back n the game

Are you sure that you dont have 2 accounts on here :rolleyes: ??.

My point was that there is nothing wrong with "constructive comments" but some went beyond that and several last week were deleated.

And p.s Joe Denilson im not exactly a Charlestown fan but do think they have been the best team in this division. I watched them play Conn Rangers away and Cross Celtic at home and I think they are a pretty good side.

About time Murphs Jewels blew the lid on the whole illegal player thing. I think everyone new the story but im glad he/she finally clarified it once and for all.

And purplemonkey I dont think that your league position is as good as you think it is. The only reason Conn Rangers are in that position is because they got points off Charlestown, who in reality beat ye twice in the league this year as did Moy Villa so therefore Claremorris B and Snugboro B would above ye in the table and would deserve to be because they got their points playing football on the pitch

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So the mystery is over...Murph is Caster Semenya in disguise!

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Originally Posted by Back n the game

Are you sure that you dont have 2 accounts on here :rolleyes: ??.

are you sure that you dont have 2 accounts too?????:eek:
just a little bit funny you ask murph jewels to explain himself and he does straight away, when weve being asking him for months.......just a little strange that suddenly a new signing can get it out of him:rolleyes:

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Ive looked and looked and cannot see once where you asked for an explaination. I dont know why the big confession now, only murphs can answer that.

From reading through the posts and between the lines it is clear to me that murphs genuinely didnt know one of the players had played in Sligo.

Thats in the past now. How are the games going to go this weekend. I have a sneeky feeling that the Snugboro lads could make home advantage count and maybe get out of this division once and for all, they have been knocking on the door now for a number of years. With Charlestown and Moy Villa to play its in their own hands.
Although the came could be said of any of the top sides who have to play each other Claremorris and Charlestown too. Great run in and should go down to the final day.

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Originally Posted by sprah1

So the mystery is over...Murph is Caster Semenya in disguise!

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:) :)

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Originally Posted by Back n the game

Are you sure that you dont have 2 accounts on here :rolleyes: ??.

My point was that there is nothing wrong with "constructive comments" but some went beyond that and several last week were deleated.

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Facts- Number of deleted posts 5
Deleted- 1 Etoo
1 CouchPotatoe
3 MurphJewels!!!!
By this estimation the greater infringement was your pal who was apparently attacked by Boro people. Again you have failed to back up your argument and you still havent named the "Boro 5" for me. If I have two account does that not only make four. You sound very similar to your buddy on here :mad:

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Originally Posted by yellowmonkey

Facts- Number of deleted posts 5
Deleted- 1 Etoo
1 CouchPotatoe
3 MurphJewels!!!!
By this estimation the greater infringement was your pal who was apparently attacked by Boro people. Again you have failed to back up your argument and you still havent named the "Boro 5" for me. If I have two account does that not only make four. You sound very similar to your buddy on here :mad:

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I think you will find mine were removed for quoting previous posts :rolleyes:
I can fight my own battles thank you and dont need any Buddies to help as iv'e done all year unlike yourself ;)

Back in the game I think your taking rubbsih about connrangers, we deserved the points from charlestown who fielded illegal players against u.eg cheating and also we beat snugboro 3 times and you say they should be above us

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Originally Posted by Back n the game

And p.s Joe Denilson im not exactly a Charlestown fan but do think they have been the best team in this division. I watched them play Conn Rangers away and Cross Celtic at home and I think they are a pretty good side.

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Interesting, assuming you don't play with anyone in this division so or are associated with a team in another division as no one would travel to Charlestown and Mountfalcon to watch those games.....
But you do bring up a good point, who has been the best team in the division....

Moy Villa: Seen them twice, good going forward, bit slow at the back 7/10
Conn Rangers: Played them 3 times, first game was 50/50, deservedly beaten in cup final, and hammered away from home, but we have excuses for that one, i.e no keeper. 8/10
Claremorris: Seen them twice, lost once, no apparent weaknesses but similiarly no standout strenghts. 6/10
Charlestown: Only seen them once, good at the back but seem lacking in ideas up front 7/10
Cross Celtic: Played them 3 times, two games were 50/50, they played better football, 3rd game they had nothing to play for. 7/10
Glenisland: They just didn't seem to turn up against us 5/10
Swinford: Dropped points against them but had umpteen chances to finish them off 5/10
Ballina United: Dropped points too, raised there game against us 5/10
Snugboro: Best defence in the division, but struggled with no stikers in the squad, so struggled to score goals 7/10

This is only based on the games I've seen, results would suggest Charlestown have been the best team, followed by Moy Villa.
I've been impressed by the standard and competitiveness overall though, its a lot better than it was 3/4 years ago, the introduction of Division 3 was the major factor in this.

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Originally Posted by joe_denilson

Interesting, assuming you don't play with anyone in this division so or are associated with a team in another division as no one would travel to Charlestown and Mountfalcon to watch those games.....
But you do bring up a good point, who has been the best team in the division....

Moy Villa: Seen them twice, good going forward, bit slow at the back 7/10
Conn Rangers: Played them 3 times, first game was 50/50, deservedly beaten in cup final, and hammered away from home, but we have excuses for that one, i.e no keeper. 8/10
Claremorris: Seen them twice, lost once, no apparent weaknesses but similiarly no standout strenghts. 6/10
Charlestown: Only seen them once, good at the back but seem lacking in ideas up front 7/10
Cross Celtic: Played them 3 times, two games were 50/50, they played better football, 3rd game they had nothing to play for. 7/10
Glenisland: They just didn't seem to turn up against us 5/10
Swinford: Dropped points against them but had umpteen chances to finish them off 5/10
Ballina United: Dropped points too, raised there game against us 5/10
Snugboro: Best defence in the division, but struggled with no stikers in the squad, so struggled to score goals 7/10

This is only based on the games I've seen, results would suggest Charlestown have been the best team, followed by Moy Villa.
I've been impressed by the standard and competitiveness overall though, its a lot better than it was 3/4 years ago, the introduction of Division 3 was the major factor in this.

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a fair reflection

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Originally Posted by purplemonkeydis

Back in the game I think your taking rubbsih about connrangers, we deserved the points from charlestown who fielded illegal players against u.eg cheating and also we beat snugboro 3 times and you say they should be above us

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It was the same team that beat ye twice, once in Charlestown and again in Mount Falcon. The only way ye could get points off us was the way ye did and as I said earlier this week no new players came into our team just some lad trying to keep himself occupied over the winter.

The way Conn Rangers have made it sound one would think we signed players from Sligo Rovers. Not only that ye have tried to get every other team in the division to complain and look for points.
If one team doesn't get promoted i hope its Conn because they are unable to beat the top 2 teams in the division.

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Originally Posted by joe_denilson

Interesting, assuming you don't play with anyone in this division so or are associated with a team in another division as no one would travel to Charlestown and Mountfalcon to watch those games.....
But you do bring up a good point, who has been the best team in the division....

Moy Villa: Seen them twice, good going forward, bit slow at the back 7/10
Conn Rangers: Played them 3 times, first game was 50/50, deservedly beaten in cup final, and hammered away from home, but we have excuses for that one, i.e no keeper. 8/10
Claremorris: Seen them twice, lost once, no apparent weaknesses but similiarly no standout strenghts. 6/10
Charlestown: Only seen them once, good at the back but seem lacking in ideas up front 7/10
Cross Celtic: Played them 3 times, two games were 50/50, they played better football, 3rd game they had nothing to play for. 7/10
Glenisland: They just didn't seem to turn up against us 5/10
Swinford: Dropped points against them but had umpteen chances to finish them off 5/10
Ballina United: Dropped points too, raised there game against us 5/10
Snugboro: Best defence in the division, but struggled with no stikers in the squad, so struggled to score goals 7/10

This is only based on the games I've seen, results would suggest Charlestown have been the best team, followed by Moy Villa.
I've been impressed by the standard and competitiveness overall though, its a lot better than it was 3/4 years ago, the introduction of Division 3 was the major factor in this.

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Nice fair analysis Joe. Of course it is from your perspective :o but would have to agree with most of it except you have only played Moy villa and us once in the League. If boro had Moy Villas attack then they could be premier material based on that ,only joking. Will agree with your Div 3 theory but think that if the mayo league bring in all the new proposals they intend to over the next 2 years there might be no need for a division 3. Some crazy new rules which mean nothing in my oppinion and which will only incur more costs on clubs who are struggling even now.

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Originally Posted by murphs jewels

I think you will find mine were removed for quoting previous posts :rolleyes:
I can fight my own battles thank you and dont need any Buddies to help as iv'e done all year unlike yourself ;)

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Who fought my battles for me?

IMO conn rangers are the best footballing side in the league. they have some real talent and remind me of partry and Clew bay who always let the ball do the taking. Both of them sides progressed and are doing well.
Joe has scored them as his best team so who do others think is the best footballing side ? NAd im not talking league standings

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Originally Posted by joe_denilson

Interesting, assuming you don't play with anyone in this division so or are associated with a team in another division as no one would travel to Charlestown and Mountfalcon to watch those games.....

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As an avid football fan i have been to several games this season from every division including the First game of the new season in Charlestown, which was on a Saturday if my memory serves me correctly, so I dont understand your sly remarks. Why not go to a game on a saturday or sunday. Its guys like you who should be supporting our game instead of making unwelcome comments on my allegiance to any club.
Almost every weekend this year I have watched a game in the Mayo League. :mad:

well clearly murphs jewels post is rubbish. if im honest I thought charlestown were the best footballing team, pity they slipped up with the rules.and murph i think you should look at a certain cup semi final in relation to us not beating ye

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Originally Posted by purplemonkeydis

Back in the game I think your taking rubbsih about connrangers, we deserved the points from charlestown who fielded illegal players against u.eg cheating and also we beat snugboro 3 times and you say they should be above us

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Dont want to get into a slanging match but they also fielded illegal players against other teams but the league can only act on the first reported illegal act. Whilst Ctown are no doubt better than us the first match of the season was tight enough and we had 2 of our Galway league players watching the game as they could not play under the rules. IMO Conn are much better than Snugboro. Conn play well on the wings and get in behind defences. Ctown have bigger stronger players and would probably do well in the higher divisions. Their manager could do with calming down a small bit!. Moy Villa also tidy. Claremorris are probably a bit too young. Ballina Utd are probably the purest team in the division. When they have a strong team out they are very good. Very sporting. Not quite Brazil more like West Ham! Cross are missing a few stronger players. Over reliance on playing football probably led to us dropping points. Injuries of older players also caused a lot of problems. Good luck to all chasing promotion (including Charlestown).

Boro missing a number of first team players for sunday. Looks like we are out of the race already im afraid :(