As centre halfs go Dunne has a good scoring record for Ireland. 1 about every 8 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
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As centre halfs go Dunne has a good scoring record for Ireland. 1 about every 8 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Dunne sat out training today with a strain.... Hopeful to be fit to face Italy.
unless richard dunne breaks both of his legs, hes going to be playing against italyQuote:
Originally Posted by M@ttitude
I heard Liam Brady on the radio earlier. He is confident that Dunne and St Leger (he's getting treatment for a stiff leg) will both be fit for the Italy match. He's still holding out some hope that Duff will make the Montengro match.Quote:
Originally Posted by richieos
Don't worry lads, no injuries to report.
Richard Dunne has taken a position as an ambassador for the FAI, shows how strongly he feels about Irish football.
http://soccerrepublic.eircom.net/New...ot-dusted.aspx
Richard Dunne is a far superior player to Lescott. That decision by Mark Hughes proves he's a poor manager. He'll be sacked within 6 months. Dunne is a legend.
You'd wonder where would City be in the table if they had not upgraded their goalkeeper.
i was under the impression that it wasn't a hughes decision but totally one made by the Arabs/board running the place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Boru
do you remember that quote from some board member saying "names like Richard Dunne don't exactly trip off the tongue in Asia" or something like that.
Basically, they wanted to bring in as many "big names" as possible (Lescott would get recognition abroad, playing for England) and so that's why Dunne was ousted.
might be completely wrong, but i thought that was what it was about....
any fool with two eyes can see Dunne is way better than Lescott.
in big trouble. I don't care about City anyway but I did hear interesting theory about Dunnes relative drop in form last year. Only when playing for City mind you. He's always been Irelands most commited. When he plays well he's playing flat out and leaves nothing on the pitch. If he takes his foot off the pedal slightly his performances dip disproportionately. Last year he sees inferior less commited players coming in getting paid multiples of what he's paid. Understandably his dedication goes to more normal levels and the performances become more ordinary.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Anyhow he's better off at Villa. He doesn't have to put up with Stephen Ireland and he continues to be an Irish legend.
You're probably right. Anyways it shows Hughes to be of weak character allowing a bunch of oil barons without Football knowledge to dictate team affairs. Therefor he's still a brutal manager. However, given that he's a yes man he might last longer than 6 months, maybe 9!Quote:
Originally Posted by magnumpi
That quote about Richard Dunne rolling off the tongue was said by the previous owner or one of his staff (Shinawatra).Quote:
Originally Posted by magnumpi
I honestly think that Hughes has full control, and that he simply made a very bad decision in this case.
Signing Given for example isn't going for a "big name" even though we all know he's one of the best in the world here.
That quote about Dunne came from the Chairman Gary Cook after Shinawatra took over last year. He was talking about sellin shirts in Asia
ya but where are the arabs from?! Asia, and id say they buy a lot mroe shirts there htan they do in poorer countries like thailand etc...
Even though the quote came out before the Arabs took over once that was said by the clubs chairman Dunne was always going to be under pressure when Man City became a world wide commercial product. Cook is a clown, as he proved with the Kaka affair, but his opinion would have been taken by the Arabs when it came time to talk about how they were going to make moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Yeah but we can't blame the Arabs for a comment made by Gary Cook, can we?Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
I honestly think Hughes has full control and just made a balls of it in regards to Dunne.
And although Dunne has been very good for us, and was good for City in the first couple of matches, I think that Dunne had one of his worst seasons in recent memory last term, and this is the reason why City wanted a replacement.
I also think that new managers generally like to install their own captain unless they're absolutely world class, so that they can stamp their own image on the team.
Not the way I would have done it, but I think Dunne was sold for footballing reasons, not commercial ones. I don't think Toure or Lescott are ridiculously marketable in reality...
Very clear today for any doubters, how much Citybank miss Dunner. Absolutely pathtetic at the back with no leader.
Having said that it also showed the risk in playing a full attacking midfiels no matter how low you rate the opposition i.e. he played the wretch Stephen Ireland instead of DeJonge.
Come next May, Hughes job may be history based on the Dunne decision because that's where the real failure is.
ps. The Muppet Pat Dolan was on Setanta blaming Shay Given for not organising the defence!!
How that man gets a job talking about football is beyond me. He was ranting in the Star yesterday that because Pat Fenlon is a manger in the league of Ireland he will never get a chance to become the national team manager... he has a very short memory, Brian Kerr and Eoin Hand both League of Ireland managers. The man is a complete jokerQuote:
Originally Posted by Scram
Delighted they only got a draw simply for the fact that Ireland was playing and that they brought in someone who is no where near the footballer Dunne is.
I feel sorry for Shay though because every club he has played with, the back four do him no favours whatsoever.
Just the usual patethic Dolan ****. God bless him he just tries to be controversial. 22 million was spent on Lescott, 16 million was spent on Toure. If they want to defend like they are playing in the local park then there is **** all Given can do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scram
I remember Dolan criticizing Given for a long run of games where Newcastle didn't get a clean sheet last season as if it was his fault.
Haven't paid attention to him since. Literally change the channel when I see his face on Setanta.
He's an incompetent, sensationalist troglodyte who says things for shock value; like a less articulate, fat version of Dunphy. Can't stand him.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
All true but he's more knowledgeable than Dunphy which makes his extreme slants somewhat interesting since there's a small element of truth to them. Dunphy just throws together criticisms on limited and often times false pieces of information making his comments worthless.
You'd never hear Dolan claiming Fahey is a full back for example, the man actually knows his ****.
Oh yes he did say "he couldn't manage his back four at Newcastle either"...what a t00l!Quote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
I agreed with Dolan once :o I can't remember what it was but felt that I must be wrong!!
I think he was getting confused with Foley, but point taken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Murfinator
Dunne interview in the Guardian criticising Domenech: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ireland-france
IIRC Domenech was linked with the Celtic job at one point, possibly after Wim Jansen left.
Anyone got any footage of the Paris Masters incident? I had a quick scan on youtube but found nothing (then again I can never find stuff on there!!)
Not sure Dunne's criticism is wise.
Any criticism of the opposition needs to be kept behind the dressing room doors and the Captain needs to set the example. Robbies remarks pre the North London Derby didnt exactly help his side.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
What happened there???Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
In the article link above, the French public booed Domenech and some of the squad players were smirking aparently.
No sound on PC but I fear this may be in french....Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
Cheers. Yeah thats it. Its in French but you can hear the jeers loud and clear. Henry having a wry smile, though in fairness so is Domenech. Hard to tell whether this suggests lack of respect for the manager - though Im sure it exists amongst some.
Don't see the problem tbh. He isn't wrong and is merely displaying the fearlessness that'll be needed to win. Moreover everyone and their dog knows the French can have suspect tempraments. If the pressure is raised a little bit, I think it can only help us.
Ireland don't indulge in mind games very often, maybe it'll reinforce our resolve. Although, I agree, it's risky. But it's all or nothing now lads.
He's after getting into a nasty habit of letting the ball bounce as it's coming to him. He got caught out at Croker around 3 times Saturday and last night was lucky to get away with the same. Even for the French "goal" the original ball into the box by Malouda was allowed to bounce in the box and it was Dunne who it bounced over!
Other than that he was very solid and attacking last night.
Watch it again. The French guy (skilachy????) Was swinging out of the neck of his jersey. Another that the linesman didn't see...Quote:
Originally Posted by rambler14
You know I think that's how John O'Shea picked up his injury. Dunne let it bounce over him and O'Shea really had to stretch to stop Henry from scoring and he also ran into Given. I have a feeling he did himself damage in that tackle but I could be wrong. It wasn't long after that when he had to be taken off.Quote:
Originally Posted by rambler14
Schillachy was clearly interfering and obstrucing Dunne and probably fouling him so he was clearly interfering with play.Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
I don't blame the referee as much as the linesman.
He had only one big call to make in the game, deciding if the goal was legitimate or not and he made a complete b*lls of it.
He missed the player returning from an offside position and interfering with play, he missed the foul and obstruction on Dunne, he missed the first handball and he missed the second handball.
Catastrophic officiating from the linesman.
Mark Hughs sacked today.
He hit out about the manner of his dismissal, I am not sure if that is ironic or not when
you see how the club treated Dunne, I am not sure if Huges wanted Dunne to go though, it sounds like it was a decision forced upon him by the club.
Anyway with Villa fourth and 6 points above Man City, the decision to sell does not look a brilliant one, whoever made it.
not a bad move for dunny thou :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Richard Dunnes exit from Man City takes a bit of explaining though.
With the money City have they could have brought in the players that they have kept Richard Dunne and made it clear that Richard had to fight for his place.
Didn't the club spin some tale to Richard that they needed the money:rolleyes: which Richard :p at.
Some one (?) wanted Dunny out of City. Mark Hughes did not put much effort trying to keep him and when you consider that Richard was by far and away the best player at the club for 3 out of the 4 previous years then that shows a lack of appreciation/loyalty from the higher echelons of that club.
When a club pays what they did for Robinho then some ones judgement is HIGHLY suspect. (okay i know it was a rushed deal but surely Hughes should have said NO)