They provided their 'Slick DVD' to RTE as well! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
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They provided their 'Slick DVD' to RTE as well! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Are Ringmahon one of the 67 ?
Newbridge TownQuote:
Originally Posted by LTFC
https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/202...ireland-clare/
Interesting if slightly pie in the sky idea for the beginnings of a team in Clare.
Calls for League of Ireland team to be set up in Clare
https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/202...ireland-clare/
Politicians thinking it's a great idea - but just don't ask them to get involved in funding it.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Non-news story of the year.
Interesting proposition. What famous footballers come from Co Clare btw?Quote:
Originally Posted by Straightstory
Barry Cotter, Barry Ryan and Ryan Nolan are the only 3 Clare players I can think of. Limerick posters on here might know of moreQuote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
I might be right in thinking that there is nearly a uniquely Irish football problem on show here. Due to archaic structure of Irish football, all Clare teams are kind of hemmed into a local league, with no room for 'expansion'.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
You have a team from a largish urban centre stuck directly competing against fairly small catchment areas (that probably drives un-ambition), and is less successful recently than a much smaller town in Newmarket, which is closer to an established LOI club (getting players/training/administration knowledge).
Now, the FAI and Local Council (which shows local motivation at least) wants to develop a sport/economic center, have to deal with local football politics directly (ie. the Tribalism that is inherent in competing clubs), and choose (if they are all being serious) either the club with the location with most potential, the current best set-up (maybe indicates its members are the most capable), or a new entity with no local history and social capital which leans on GAA sympathies, to bet on.
Similar problems seem to have arisen for this 3rd Tier in Kildare, Kilkenny, Carlow, and Meath.
Not saying there are not solutions available (or even if it is a big deal), Kerry seems a success so far. But the structures needed changing at least 20 years ago to naturally pick winners and losers, and stratify locally - obviously that's not happened - and it is what it is at this stage.
The FAI did seem to have some strategy with developing 'county' teams in the underage leagues, but havent seen any indication what the current strategy will be.
In all honesty, the FAI probably dont even have the capacity to develop such strategies for the 3rd Tier selection process and it might not even be a one-size-fits-all solution.
I think this says a lot more than it appears at first glance.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Firstiy, it tells me that the LOI has reached a level of mainstream acceptability and even attractiveness now when you have politicians in a strong GAA county calling for and discussing having a club in their area (no matter how unrealistic the manner of doing so is). This wouldn't have happened 10+yrs ago.
Secondly, I think it's also noteworthy that this was from a Sinn Féin councillor. A parrty that usually can't see much beyond GAA. The 'garrison game' no more, it seems?
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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
I remember Newmarket Celtic winning the FAI Junior Cup in 2023 beating St. Michaels of Tipperary. Other teams from the Clare league of note are Bridge United and Avenue United. Up the banner! :rolleyes:
Indeed - while a county model would probably serve best for Mayo (would either Castlebar or Westport be of sufficient size to survive in the First Division?), Kildare might actually do better with individual clubs applying, given the relative success of Maynooth in recent years, and Newbridge essentially operating as Kildare County in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
Never heard of those two clubs are they Ennis based?Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
Bridge United are from Sixmilebridge, with Avenue from Ennis - the latter tend to have a similar Junior Cup record to Kerry clubs, in that they often make decent progress, without really threatening to win the competition.
The Avenue manager posted a memorable photo of their new jersey last year!
I'd be happy to see an LoI club from Clare, and it's a sign, maybe, that the league is on an upswing, but this has all the hallmarks of a few lads scribbling ideas on a beermat after the council meeting. You have a sense it'll go nowhere when there's a SF councillor tarting for private investors - mustn't have got the memo about democratic socialism.
It also indicates a possible shift in future public funding direction. Local politicians are usually on the pulse on what grants are available or what is ccoming and are quick to make calls in anticipation so they can claim credit. SF do tend to shout on everything and they only have to be right once. Still think the county model is unsuitable, a mini GAA is not what is needed, focus should be on club and catchment growth and not an umbrella or rainbow club rooted in not dealing with fomo or ego.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
I would have thought that the new proposed FAI third tier National league would have been the best way to start!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eminence Grise
I wonder has that Clare SF councillor done any research or checked to see if any Clare Junior club or even the Clare District Soccer League had applied or shown interest in this new proposal!
:confused:
Newbridge Town on their National League bid:
https://www.ireland-live.ie/news/kil...n-kildare.html
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Originally Posted by culloty82
67 total applications will be whittled down to 20 clubs who will enter the League of Ireland across the new Tier 3 North and South divisions.
Based on the article above the following criteria seems to be what the FAI will be looking at when considering teams for this new structure.
The FAI criteria will come down to,
Location,
Facilities,
Budget,
Governance,
Catchment area,
Covered and uncovered stands,
Seating arrangement,
Floodlighting,
Car parking space,
Train station,
Signage,
Competitiveness.
Seen in article that Club Kildare are putting in a bid too. Where are they based? Didnt realise that Martin Russell is mgr of Newbridge Town considering his loi pedigree!Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
Based on that, would any of the current First Division clubs qualify? 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
https://www.kildare-nationalist.ie/k...rid-49857.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
The club currently play their academy games at FBD Park located on the grounds of the Killashee hotel and will play their senior games there in 2026 as they believe the facilities there would be sufficient for the third tier.
There's something I don't understand about this. Fair play to them, they appear to have a very good Youth set-up etc, but then they say:Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
"McNally believes it is important that Klub Kildare has a senior side as it will give their young players a pathway to senior football."
(By "senior" football may I assume he means adult football i.e. age rather than level?)
Anyhow, what has been stopping them from establishing their own adult team(s), entering the local Kildare & District League (or whatever), then working their way up to be able to compete in the LSL?
For such a process would surely provide a much stronger platform from which to jump up to a 3rd tier and beyond.
Presumably by senior football he means literally senior football? Ronseal stuff. Hence wanting to join a senior tier.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
So by "presuming" you're not certain either? For the reason I didn't automatically assume was because in ROI* football, I've heard "Senior" used to mean Adult football and "Junior" to denote Youth.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Anyhow, it doesn't really matter, I'll accept your interpretation.
Though the route I was suggesting (i.e. via LSL) doesn't preclude rising to Senior/Top Tier football. And while it would entail a longer journey, it should mean that they're better equipped to compete when they do get there. Which one might have thought they of all clubs might appreciate, following the example of the ill-fated Kildare County?
Or maybe they're now just trying to avoid being left behind by Newbridge Town and their plans?
* - In NI, Senior always reflects the playing standard i.e. top tiers, and Junior the bottom tiers, with Intermediate in between.
Yes m8, all of them maybe UCD would struggle with the catchment area, but its facilities would persuade the FAI!Quote:
Originally Posted by cobhlad
Good point, post that idea to Club Kildare for further consideration!Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Newbridge Town do play in the LSL so i he definitly means LOI level.
They are in the 5th division (or were last season anyway) on Saturday so fair to say they will need a bit of strengthening
That's their reserve team. Their first team played in the third division in the intermediate sectionQuote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
But to the broader point, having an LSL team prepares you for senior football in the same way that entering Miss World prepares you for the Indy 500
Model career
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Adrien Bende was born in Budapest and was the winner of the Miss Universe Hungary contest in 2006,[2] and one of the 20 semi-finalists of the Miss Universe 2006 contest from Los Angeles.
Racing career
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She is since 2011 race driver at the Lotus Ladies Cup in Lotus Elise.[3] Bende's first racing team was ProexSport Kft,[4] since 2014, she is a driver for Czollner Motorsport.[5]
Looks good for Newbridge Town ;):D
And playing Youth football prepares you better?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burnsie
Anyhow, why not have both?
I was going to reply saying, LSL doesn't really prepare eyou for playing LOI 1st division, particularly if you're not playing top level LSL, and then I remembered what these thread is about and it reminded me why the 3rd tier is so badly needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
The jump between LSL (I'm not counting MSL as a proper Senior League as it's just a Cork League) or any of our Junior Leagues is massive.
However the 3rd tier will likely be a significant step down below LSL, while still being above that standard.
It will bridge the gap perfectly and allow us to create a proper pyramid and structure as a result.
One drawback is they wouldn't be able to call upon players from their loi underage teams to play for the Senior team without a transfer, while other clubs can draw from their U18 sides seamlessly.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Looking at the potential list of teams that have been mentioned through various social media outlets and are now part of the FAI's process to accept 20 teams.
I have created a possible location of these teams,
Leinster
Dublin - 6 Clubs
Kildare - 1 Club
Carlow/Kilkenny - 1 Club
Kildare - 1 Club
Munster
Cork - 2 Clubs
Limerick - 2 Clubs
Tipperary - 2 Clubs
Waterford - 1 Club
Connaught
Galway - 2 Clubs
Mayo - 1 Club
Ulster
Donegal - 1 Club
I thought there were two Kildare clubs interested.
In Ulster, are Monaghan not interested?
Assuming your suggestions are close to the mark, where might they draw the line between a 10 x team Northern Division and a 10 x team Southern Division?Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
P.S. Your second reference to Kildare - assume you meant some other county?
From that list it would presumably be Dublin, Kildare, Donegal and Mayo in the North. Though the list does have Kildare down twice, so preumably that's in error?Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Assuming you mean United, according to this (February) they were interested:Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckett
https://www.northernsound.ie/sport/m...-league-254245
However seemingly not selected (May):
https://www.northernsound.ie/sport/m...running-258552
Traditionally, based on the A Championship and Academy leagues, the FAI tend to draw a line between Dublin and Galway when allocating teams to divisions, moving more in Dublin when necessary to achieve an even split.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen