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Hard luck.
Someone within the FAI really wants Drogs in the final.
I hear they were trying to engineer another Rovers-Drogs final after the attendance was so good last time.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
It's sort of a shame that it's not a Sligo vs Dundalk final because I think that would have been a great game. Drogs are awful to watch but best of luck to them they play to their strengths
I do enjoy Dundalk losing tho, it's always someone else's fault. I'm surprised Anto Flood hasn't got any of the blame for today yet.
Roche & Co., it's time to go.
Obviously the Gardai. Never been at a game where the home crowd were held back after the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by poster
Nice to see somebody is scared of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Sligo fully deserved the spoils. None of the Hoops wanted to be there. The difference in mentality of both squads epitomised by Danny Ventre. On the fringes all season yet how his goal spurred the bit O'Red. Nobody is afraid of us anymore, we are now a source of amusement.
You always were.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sligo Hoops.
Darren Meenan too.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Drogs had us in the league match in Oriel and we nicked it, lose to Lims in similar fashion where they just got in to us too. V Pats we just didnt turn up and no matter what is said about Flood and to just a slightly lesser extent Brennan; played us on the the night and we folded. Today first red cant be argued with but Sheids got the ball and was never a red! That said we struggled against Drogheda the last two games and we lost a cup semi tonight. Gutting but it is what it is, Drogs will have played 3 cup finals this season - Cooke will be tough to relplace! Been a good season for us and for Drogheda. Stateing the obvious but from a potential double to nowt in a matter of two weeks is tough but to qualify for Europe and get much of our lapsed support back is incredible in its own right....doing my best not to be bitter
I thought it was a stunning statistic RTE announced near the end of the game that even with 9 men Dundalk had 50% of the possession. I know Drogs have a limited-enough squad and they use the tactics that work for them, but surely any bog-standard side should be able to boss the ball with a two-man advantage. If nothing else, you tire the opposition out like Sligo did after McCormack walked.
We just didn't seem to know what to do against 9 men. Unprecedented position to be in. Very frustrating for the Drogs fans - Really should have tried to kill the game off with a second goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiniMourinho
Dundalk never stopped trying even though they lost two players and their support was brilliant. Kenny's done a great job and the future looks very bright for the club.
Sligo firm favourites for the final.
I can think of one or two of yours who wanted to be in the Showgs yesterday but wearng different Jerseys, good call on Danny V he was a key player yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sligo Hoops.
haha what are you on? What do you want me to say? It crime against humanity? Get off the stage will ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
I thought that it was an incredible second half performance with 9 men, I was willing them on to equalise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Very important that Dundalk fans show their appreciation for those efforts by travelling in big numbers for the game against Bohs next saturday. Bohs have laid on a sleeping carriage for any Dundalk fans who wish to queue overnight for tickets
A good time for Bohs to play Dundalk, the players will have to be deflated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
I hope that Dundalk fans will travel in numbers to support a team who have given Dundalk fans a lot of enjoyment this year, culminating in a Euro place next season.
I'll certainly be there.
Mind reader now? Brennan had intent while poor little Darren got unlucky? gas man.. No difference at all between the challenges. Neither of them red cards (or both of them red cards if you're that inclined)Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Wasn't perfectly timed. It was pretty clumsy. He slipped as he was challenging Fabio. It wasn't a penalty but I initially thought it was. Just looked awkward. That's given as a penalty more than it's not given. Doesn't make it right of course.Quote:
Then anyone who only thinks Shields perfectly timed tackle was just "harsh" is obviously trolling.
Taken on their own neither decision is *that* egregious but having 2 of them within a short timeframe clearly amplifies things.
After that Drogs were poison. O'Donnell said in the post much interview that Dundalk wanted to keep it at 0-1 until the last 20 minutes. They may have got an equaliser if they pressed earlier. 9 men certainly didn't look under pressure at all. Still a good season for Dundalk though
In the other game, Sligo were brutal for the opening 10 minutes but when they realised that the other Rovers didn't want to play, they steamrolled them. Ndo and Djilili were excellent. Croly's cautious approach showed up again. Needing a goal he stuck with Robinson in midfield. He's afraid to let players play when they're away from home.
May as well add my tuppence ha'penny worth. I thought the first incident was a red. You could argue it both ways, but I think most refs most of the time would have given red.
The second one, when slowed down through replay, looks like a penalty was harsh. But on first viewing, at full speed, I thought it was a penalty, and that's all the ref has to go on. It shouldn't have resulted in a sending off though. Very hard luck on Dundalk, but the level of vitriol shown towards the ref by some for this decision was out of proportion.
Laws of the game state the first Red was correct!
Second should not of been a red but was a correct penalty...sure the lad wins the ball....but after he creams through the back of the attacker.
100% spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by gormacha
Told by a MC that the plan was to keep the fans back of the team that won.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
I'd agree with the general consensus here. First tackle was crazy reckless and totally unnecessary in the exact circumstances. Second, I've seen them given and not given as penalties so I have no serious beef with the ref over that. But there was a covering defender. Certainly not a red.
I think we can all agree that the FAI will do sweet FA and the same idiots will be officiating week in week out not matter what they do. yesterday's debacle will not spur them on to change their process of training refs but yet they will be quick enough to hand out fines and suspensions to almost all our backroom staff and any players who said anything.
Any comment on Towell's hand ball in the wall? looked a like clear penalty
Any comment on the countless fouls on Dundalk players for the entire 90 mins that were ignored?Quote:
Originally Posted by dejadem
Alan Cawley gets it spot on.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2013/...d-louth-derby/
Precisely, the goon needed a bit of cop on, not to dish out reds for the first two tackles of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Just read that. Alan Cawley comes up with this nugget:
The laws of the game are the same all the time. I hate this stupid idea that they should be relaxed if it's a local derby or if it's a big game.Quote:
The reason I say this is because you have to take into consideration the occasion, it was a local derby, still very early in the game plus it was very wet and the conditions were slippery.
Kenny has said in interviews that they suspected there would be a red card and spoke to the players about it. And then Meenan flies in like that when it was totally uncalled for. He can't blame the pitch for what he did. But I haven't seen any criticism of him at all while lots of LOI players are laying into the officials.
The penalty incident was less clear cut but my thoughts on first viewing were that it was a foul and denied a shooting opportunity in the box.
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Originally Posted by Dillonman
Yeah I can comment, LOI referees are poor, hardly breaking news, plenty of fouls both ways not given, could have been more in favour for one team or another, didn't take a count.
So, any comment on Towell's hand ball in the wall? It seems Stephen Kenny missed it in his summary.
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Originally Posted by dejadem
You seem to be the only one talking about it. What time did it happen? I'll give it a look to see if I can spot what you saw.
It was a referee error as it was clearly a penalty IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by dejadem
From the free kick that was awarded when Meenan sent off. Clear handball.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
I think that's the broader issue to be fair, Buttimer isn't biased. he's just awful
From the free kick after Meenan's red card I think, Cassidy made a big deal of out at the time. I'll check it out online now, Towell on the end of the wall has his arm up, ball hits him and goes out for a corner.
Any comment on the studs up stamp by Alan Byrne and his elbow just before it near the end of the game. If we are going by the laws of the game he should have walked too. Buttimer give us nothing all day. He was if anything even worse in the second half.Quote:
Originally Posted by dejadem
I agree he is awful, but after being abused at half time he seemed to give us nothing at all in the second half. If that's not biased I don't know what is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
You have to marvel at the logic that says the referee should take the conditions into account. Effectively it's saying that the players don't have to take the conditions into account, thus absolving the people who can actually do something about it of any responsibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
That's the point I was trying to make. Bad decision impacted on Dundalk, but it's not alone in bad decisions. Just in UP this season, Fagan's handball penalty & Bossekota's sending off were just as bad. Doesn't make it right of course. Kenny's crying about Meenan's been a "yellow at best" doesn't help Dundalk's argument either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Yes, I can comment again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louth4sam
Absolutely agree! I presume Byrne got away because there another bad tackle by Daly straight after it which he was booked for. It was a terrible tackle by Byrne, went right through the player. Towell still handled the ball though.
I hate this "he should referee the occasion" waffle. The ref's job is to enforce the rules, otherwise it's unfair to the team that's been offended against. By all means, argue that it was no more than a yellow, but don't argue it should somehow be less because it's a big match.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse