Final confirmed for Turners Cross at 6pm on Saturday 24th September
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Final confirmed for Turners Cross at 6pm on Saturday 24th September
Bring it on
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Great game though, Derry seem to have some great bench players.
Was it a double-headed coin supplied by the MFA?Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
Cork are the 7th first division side to reach the League Cup final. None of those 7 have won promotion that season.
(So far 2 wins, 4 defeats)
I think there was a Queen on either side.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
It's well known the MFA don't have any money. (Although hosting this event for the FAI might help)
Oh no, we're doomed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Surely you mean the previous 6 :D
maybe wishful thinking, eh? :D
Ah Dodge, you'll make people think you don't like us or something!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Yeah, I just want Cork fans thinking that ;)
Proper order that it should have been decided by a coin toss.Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
Could it be that the FAI have learned a little bit about fairness since the Setanta final venue nonsense?
The League Cup final venue has always been decided by a coin toss in recent years, while the Setanta Cup final venue has always been at the discretion of the organisers. Linfield playing Shels in Tolka, Drogheda playing Linfield in Windsor Park, Glentoran playing Cork in Turner's Cross - none of those were decided by a coin toss. The League Cup finals in Derry, Wexford and Waterford have all been decided by a coin toss though. Different procedures for different competitions.
its nice to see the two old clubs back in the final for the first time in three years... some comeback from both clubs..
Goals and penos from Tues nights Semi.
http://vimeo.com/28118968
Even if you are correct in this (and Bohemian fans may take issue about the 2009 decider) it does not justify the Setanta decision which flew in the face of fair play.Quote:
Originally Posted by holidaysong
Any Participation Agreement I have seen gives the FAI almost unlimited powers to do as they see fit - I doubt if the "coin toss" is written into the EA Sports Cup rules.
Unless the final venue is pre-determined from the outset the coin toss (or mutual agreement of the clubs) is the only fair method. They got it right with the EA Sports Cup and wrong with the Setanta Sports Cup.
In your opinion, as a Dundalk fan.
Others, like myself and holidaysong, disagree.
Hold on a minute.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Turns out it wasn't a coin toss after all.
They drew lots.
So basically it boiled down to the fact that whoever we had there was able to draw more than the Derry representative :D
I thought Setanta picked the location of the Setanta Cup final. Tallaght is the best LOI stadium for TV so it makes perfect sense to have the game there.
Whos paying for the medals this year?...
On Setanta, when it was originally announced, they said that the final would alternate between Tolka park and Windsor Park. If two teams from same league played, then the venue would not be alternated.
So the venues have been
2005 - LOI v IL - Tolka (pre-determined)
2006 - LOI v LOI - Tolka (Pre-determined as no IL involvement)
2007 - LOI v IL - Windsor (pre-determined - rotation back in)
2008 - LOI v IL - Turners Cross (organisers wanted crowd, Turners Cross picked as Tolka would be empty)
2009/10 - LOI v LOI - Tallaght (picked by organisers, not pre-determined)
2011 - LOI v LOI - Tallaght (picked by organisers, not pre-determined)
Now it was hardly a surprise that Tallaghy was picked in 2011 IMO
Shame it looks like being the last final
Of course it is an opinion and one that I would hold in the circumstances that existed even if Dundalk had not been involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I don't want to sidetrack this League Cup thread back to the Setanta final venue debate, but want to clarify this part -Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
There can be no reasonable objection to a final venue where it was pre-determined at the outset of the competition.
The problem is when the two finalists are known that it is arbitarily awarded to the home ground of one of the finalists.
That certainly happened this year (and perhaps also in 2008). It is wrong from a sporting perspective and contrary to all notions of fair play in my view.
The reasons given by the Setanta Sports Committee (essentially the FAI) for Tallaght was to facilitate the biggest possible attendance. If that logic were followed in the EA Sports Cup decision this season the FAI would would automatically have gone for Turners Cross. Lots / coin toss was the right way to decide the venue.
You wouldn't be talking about it 3 months later if it didn't imvolve Dundalk...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Well thats a problem when we have so many poor grounds in this country (Oriel & Richmond included)Quote:
The problem is when the two finalists are known that it is arbitarily awarded to the home ground of one of the finalists.
That is true but does not dilute the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
If those grounds are good enough for every other match, they are good enough for the final.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
If the criteria were exclusively based on the best ground or biggest capacity then Turners Cross would have automatically got the EA Sports Final without a coin toss / drawing of lots.
The fact that the coin toss / drawing of lots (correctly) happened in this case simply opens up an old wound for me.
Call a spade a spade, Oriel park is not suitable for a final.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Wrongggggg Boi !!Quote:
Originally Posted by corkery
Dundalk Schoolboys cup final EVERY year since year dot ;)
For all Cork City and Derry fans based in London who can’t make it to Turners Cross on Saturday: The League cup final will be show live in the Hoppole in Wandsworth from 5.30.
Finger food will be provided by Colm the owner after the game.
All are welcome.
Nearest Train, Wandsworth Town train station. (15 mins from Waterloo)
Clapham Junction, Take bus 39, 170, 337, 37, 156 (10 mins)
Nearest Tube, East Putney
Location: The Hop Pole
Putney Bridge Rd
SW18 1HR
Here are some pics before the final on Saturday
For any FIFA 12 lovers out there its been revealed that the EA Sports Cup will now feature in the game, hopefully that means 1st division clubs just pointless otherwise.
ill buy it if the First Division clubs are included alright
If the first division isn't included in the league section then there's no hope of them being included in the EA sports cup. They may have one or 2 clubs there at most but not a hope they'll have them all.
Turners Cross is looking well. :good:Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
The new extension is looking well alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
This is live on Setanta tonight, KO 6pm. Also streams available online for it.
links or pointers appreciatedQuote:
Originally Posted by adamd164
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Originally Posted by outspoken
The last thing I needed was an excuse to buy that piece of crap of a game but...
Good game this. Impressed with Cork, they're swarming all over us at times.
Entertaining game, probably draw a fair reflection at half time.
Derry were jammy. Cork deserved extratime at least.
Ten League Cup's now. Wonder if we can trade them in for one league title?
Good to see two new teams get to a final so quickly into their LOI careers.