Win World Cup or Win All Ireland

[an_ceannaire]

Had this discussion with 7 mates last saturday. All into GAA and soccer. Would you rather Ireland win a Soccer World Cup, A Rugby World Cup or your county win an All Ireland.
Six said they would rather see their county (Dublin x2, Galway, Limerick and Clare x2) win an All Ireland.
One said The soccer, and he is from Carlow

[Jicked]

Is that a joke? Beating Tipperary and Kilkenny in a sport played by relatively nobody, or beating England, Spain, Italy, Germany, Brazil, Argentina et al in the most popular sport played by hundreds of millions of people in front of a global audience of billions in every corner of the globe?

What was that quote from In Bruges? "Maybe if I was retarded, or grew up on a farm...."

[Lionel Ritchie]

Oh the hot topics at a barn dance ha?
...and all that before the sex pig gets brought out.

[L37Ultra]

I'd rather Ireland even qualified for a World Cup over Limerick winning the all Ireland in football or hurling.

Now if you were to ask me which I would prefer, Limerick FC winning the League or Ireland winning the World Cup, that would be a difficult one to answer.

[Murfinator]

For me Personally I'd take Ireland in rugby, followed by my country in Football, followed by the soccer world cup.

I know a lot of people will wholeheartedly disagree with my reasoning but hopefully you'll at least respect it and not go nuts disputing it!

So here it is.

I don't feel the soccer lads represent me or my country very well. None of them live in this country, most of them will continue not living in this country after their careers are finished and a sizable chunk of them aren't Irish at all and simply play for us as a convenient means for them to get international soccer.

Growing up I had to deal with the starts of our Irish team having English accents such as Townsend, Cascarino, Aldridge etc. And it confused me a lot, it gave out the message that we weren't good enough and needed the dregs of Britain to compete.
Not to mention the likes of Stephen Ireland, Joey O Brien, Dean Kiely and Andy O Brien and how they've disrespected the shirt in recent times. It doesn't make me proud in the least to follow them.

Conversely the rugby side does have everyone living in the country, they are legitimate Irish people living in the community and they more than capable of competing with anyone in the world being european champions both at club and international level at the moment. It's something to be proud to support.

[IsMiseSean]

Soccer world cup anyday.... I've already witnessed Galway winning two All-Ireland football titles

[NeilMcD]

I would rather Ireland win a throw in at football then anyting to do with GAA or rugby.

For me Personally I'd take Ireland in rugby, followed by my country in Football, followed by the soccer world cup.

I know a lot of people will wholeheartedly disagree with my reasoning but hopefully you'll at least respect it and not go nuts disputing it!

So here it is.

I don't feel the soccer lads represent me or my country very well. None of them live in this country, most of them will continue not living in this country after their careers are finished and a sizable chunk of them aren't Irish at all and simply play for us as a convenient means for them to get international soccer.

Growing up I had to deal with the starts of our Irish team having English accents such as Townsend, Cascarino, Aldridge etc. And it confused me a lot, it gave out the message that we weren't good enough and needed the dregs of Britain to compete.
Not to mention the likes of Stephen Ireland, Joey O Brien, Dean Kiely and Andy O Brien and how they've disrespected the shirt in recent times. It doesn't make me proud in the least to follow them.

Conversely the rugby side does have everyone living in the country, they are legitimate Irish people living in the community and they more than capable of competing with anyone in the world being european champions both at club and international level at the moment. It's something to be proud to support.

YOu should read your history books and maybe go on a few Ireland trips and speak to a few of the Irish fans who have English accents and maybe re post that drivel.

[CarrickFan]

For me Personally I'd take Ireland in rugby, followed by my country in Football, followed by the soccer world cup.

I know a lot of people will wholeheartedly disagree with my reasoning but hopefully you'll at least respect it and not go nuts disputing it!

So here it is.

I don't feel the soccer lads represent me or my country very well. None of them live in this country, most of them will continue not living in this country after their careers are finished and a sizable chunk of them aren't Irish at all and simply play for us as a convenient means for them to get international soccer.

Growing up I had to deal with the starts of our Irish team having English accents such as Townsend, Cascarino, Aldridge etc. And it confused me a lot, it gave out the message that we weren't good enough and needed the dregs of Britain to compete.
Not to mention the likes of Stephen Ireland, Joey O Brien, Dean Kiely and Andy O Brien and how they've disrespected the shirt in recent times. It doesn't make me proud in the least to follow them.

Conversely the rugby side does have everyone living in the country, they are legitimate Irish people living in the community and they more than capable of competing with anyone in the world being european champions both at club and international level at the moment. It's something to be proud to support.

Listen Murfinator of course you are entitled to your opinion as is everyone so fair play..but as for your agruements as to why...we have been through this before on another thread have we not???...you were going on about the exact same things so no need to rehash it again...and as i pointed out to you last time that only 2 of the Irish team in recent times are not Irish born and obviously the sport they are in dictates that the have to move on from Ireland to play the sport at the top level!!!..anyway as i said i have no interest going through it all again...

to answer the original thread question i would get more pleasure from Ireland qualifying for the World Cup or even winning a friendly to be honest than My County doing the Hurling and Football double and Ireland winning the Rugby world cup as i have little to no interest in those sports.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Conversely the rugby side does have everyone living in the country, they are legitimate Irish people living in the community and they more than capable of competing with anyone in the world being european champions both at club and international level at the moment. It's something to be proud to support.

Yeah but it's a sh1t sport for people too fat or too stupid to master the graceful art of Association Football.

Plus only about 8 countries (including the UK's 3) play it to any sort of decent level.

[NeilMcD]

For me Personally I'd take Ireland in rugby, followed by my country in Football, followed by the soccer world cup.

I know a lot of people will wholeheartedly disagree with my reasoning but hopefully you'll at least respect it and not go nuts disputing it!

So here it is.

I don't feel the soccer lads represent me or my country very well. None of them live in this country, most of them will continue not living in this country after their careers are finished and a sizable chunk of them aren't Irish at all and simply play for us as a convenient means for them to get international soccer.

Growing up I had to deal with the starts of our Irish team having English accents such as Townsend, Cascarino, Aldridge etc. And it confused me a lot, it gave out the message that we weren't good enough and needed the dregs of Britain to compete.
Not to mention the likes of Stephen Ireland, Joey O Brien, Dean Kiely and Andy O Brien and how they've disrespected the shirt in recent times. It doesn't make me proud in the least to follow them.

Conversely the rugby side does have everyone living in the country, they are legitimate Irish people living in the community and they more than capable of competing with anyone in the world being european champions both at club and international level at the moment. It's something to be proud to support.

Try these sites maybe

https://www.rugby.ie

https://www.bogball.ie

https://www.stickfighting.ie

https://www.beatyourwife.ie

https://www.sangwichesandtae.ie

[shep]

Yeah,Ireland even qualifying for a world cup would be a million times better than anything the Gah or rugby lads could win.I actually feel a bit stupid sometimes being "fakely" enthusiastic about Ireland winning in Rugby.Like how many of these newbie rugby fans even know the rules of rugby.

[drummerboy]

Football World cup is far more prestigious to me.
The Dubs have won the All-Ireland plenty of times before and sure, rugby is only played by a handful of countries. So football all the way.

[kingdom hoop]

Not even the lucid brilliance brought by the sheer ecstasy of winning yesterday can make sense of this topic. The fortunes of Kerry GAA and Ireland influence my mood greatly, but I still struggle to see how you can compare a World Cup to an All-Ireland. I suppose if Ireland had won 36 World Cups and I supported Leitrim it might make more sense.

Yesterday was amazing (and as L37Ultra alludes to there's something to be said for a more local side winning something) but come on, Ireland, little old Ireland, winning the World Cup. Nothing could ever come close - Alexander Shulgin would struggle to concoct anything as powerfully joyous. Alas, it is as fanciful as it would be fantastic. I'll take Option C - real delight over dream delight.


Anyway An Ceannaire, what were the reasons given in your little survey? Was it more of a most-local-is-best thing; or that they were more into one team over the other; or that they preferred the sports, etc; or was there any kind of thought process at all - maybe their answers came simply cos it's All-Ireland season at the moment?

[EastTerracer]

For me Personally I'd take Ireland in rugby, followed by my country in Football, followed by the soccer world cup.

What country do you support, Murfinator? Brazil, Spain, England??

[Norm]

Easy Peesy.

Ireland winning the world cup.

It baffles me how somebody could think otherwise.