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  • backstothewall
    Seasoned Pro
    • Sep 2006
    • 2881

    #1

    World Cup - Visa discussion

    Ticket prices would be the least of my concerns. You would have to be nuts to go anywhere near this World Cup unless it's games in Canada or Mexico. Travelling football fans are inevitably going to end up in ICE detention camps and god knows where after that.
    Bring Back Belfast Celtic F.C.
  • seanfhear
    Banned
    • Dec 2007
    • 5452

    #2
    Originally posted by backstothewall
    Ticket prices would be the least of my concerns. You would have to be nuts to go anywhere near this World Cup unless it's games in Canada or Mexico. Travelling football fans are inevitably going to end up in ICE detention camps and god knows where after that.
    LOL ~ Propaganda works !

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    • tetsujin1979
      Coach
      • Nov 2003
      • 23730

      #3
      Originally posted by seanfhear
      LOL ~ Propaganda works !
      I'd like to see some evidence of this propaganda
      All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on mastodon, BlueSky and facebook

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      • seanfhear
        Banned
        • Dec 2007
        • 5452

        #4
        Originally posted by tetsujin1979
        I'd like to see some evidence of this propaganda
        If you think that Irish fans attending the World Cup in America are going to end up in ICE detention camps then ~ The propaganda that has convinced you of that, has worked !

        If it did happen which is a mighty big if, the numbers would be tiny probably countable on one hand ~ ~ Maybe some that deserve to de detained by ICE might be detained by ICE ~ ~ After-all that is the law in America ~ American laws for America !

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        • tetsujin1979
          Coach
          • Nov 2003
          • 23730

          #5
          there are numerous cases of tourists who have legally entered the United States being detained by ICE
          All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on mastodon, BlueSky and facebook

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          • seanfhear
            Banned
            • Dec 2007
            • 5452

            #6
            Originally posted by tetsujin1979
            there are numerous cases of tourists who have legally entered the United States being detained by ICE
            Perhaps they have been legally detained for very good reasons ? !

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            • tetsujin1979
              Coach
              • Nov 2003
              • 23730

              #7
              Look at all these reasons


              Members of punk band UK Subs were detained at customs in LA and eventually denied entry to the US. There's a lot of athletes who take political stances, who's to say they won't be detained for the same reason next year, or before the Olympics in 2028?
              Members of the U.K. Subs have said they were denied entry into the US for a show at Los Angeles’ Punk Invasion festival. 
              Last edited by tetsujin1979; 28/03/2025, 12:09 PM.
              All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on mastodon, BlueSky and facebook

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              • seanfhear
                Banned
                • Dec 2007
                • 5452

                #8
                Originally posted by tetsujin1979
                Look at all these reasons


                Members of punk band UK Subs were detained at customs in LA and eventually denied entry to the US. There's a lot of athletes who take political stances, who's to say they won't be detained for the same reason next year, or before the Olympics in 2028?
                https://www.nme.com/news/music/membe...l-show-3848468
                America's laws for America ~ ~ If you don't want to follow AmericanLaws then maybe America isn't the place for you !

                Or else, you take your chances ~ Don't do the crime if you can't do the consequences !

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                • backstothewall
                  Seasoned Pro
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 2881

                  #9
                  Originally posted by seanfhear
                  America's laws for America ~ ~ If you don't want to follow AmericanLaws then maybe America isn't the place for you !
                  Err. That's another way of saying what I said. Go see a World Cup match in a more welcoming country (i.e. Mexico or Canada).
                  Bring Back Belfast Celtic F.C.

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                  • seanfhear
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 5452

                    #10
                    Originally posted by backstothewall
                    Err. That's another way of saying what I said. Go see a World Cup match in a more welcoming country (i.e. Mexico or Canada).
                    Good idea if you don't want to abide by America's laws alright.

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                    • pineapple stu
                      Biased against YOUR club
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 40783

                      #11
                      Originally posted by seanfhear
                      America's laws for America ~ ~ If you don't want to follow AmericanLaws then maybe America isn't the place for you !

                      Or else, you take your chances ~ Don't do the crime if you can't do the consequences !
                      What law do you think the band in tets' example broke?

                      I thought free speech was a central part of American identity - or am I wrong?

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                      • seanfhear
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 5452

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pineapple stu
                        What law do you think the band in tets' example broke?

                        I thought free speech was a central part of American identity - or am I wrong?
                        Foreigners / Tourists, in Countries should obey the laws of the land they enter ~ That's not rocket science.

                        If they don't, or choose not to, they should be willing to accept the consequences of their actions.

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                        • tetsujin1979
                          Coach
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 23730

                          #13
                          Originally posted by seanfhear
                          Foreigners / Tourists, in Countries should obey the laws of the land they enter ~ That's not rocket science.

                          If they don't, or choose not to, they should be willing to accept the consequences of their actions.
                          That doesn't explain which law they broke.
                          All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on mastodon, BlueSky and facebook

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                          • pineapple stu
                            Biased against YOUR club
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 40783

                            #14
                            Originally posted by tetsujin1979
                            That doesn't explain which law they broke.
                            Correct.

                            Fairly simple question to answer, I'd have thought.

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                            • seanfhear
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 5452

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tetsujin1979
                              That doesn't explain which law they broke.
                              Gibbs was told he had an incorrect visa.

                              I am sure that there are groups in America that will fight their corner, if they were not treated legally under American laws !

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