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  • third policeman
    First Team
    • Jun 2008
    • 1208

    #1

    Northern Ireland border

    In any case the way things are shaping up in the North, they may not have a team in a few years in any case.
  • seanfhear
    Banned
    • Dec 2007
    • 5452

    #2
    Originally posted by third policeman
    In any case the way things are shaping up in the North, they may not have a team in a few years in any case.
    Why so ? A United Ireland is along long long way away. There is no where near the numbers to win a border poll in the North ~ Miles off.

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    • tetsujin1979
      Coach
      • Nov 2003
      • 23730

      #3
      I did a black taxi tour of Belfast in November, the driver was Republican and said that the border poll will take another generation, but unification will happen.
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      • pineapple stu
        Biased against YOUR club
        • Aug 2002
        • 40783

        #4
        A taxi driver's never been wrong before I guess.

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        • seanfhear
          Banned
          • Dec 2007
          • 5452

          #5
          Originally posted by tetsujin1979
          I did a black taxi tour of Belfast in November, the driver was Republican and said that the border poll will take another generation, but unification will happen.
          The numbers are certainly no where near there at the moment for a border poll to be won. I am not sure if I would vote to join with the South if I was given the chance.

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          • Diggs246
            Seasoned Pro
            • Oct 2016
            • 2709

            #6
            Northern Ireland Europe's largest open air lunatic asylum.....no thanks

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            • DCWA
              Reserves
              • Sep 2018
              • 694

              #7
              Originally posted by tetsujin1979
              I did a black taxi tour of Belfast in November, the driver was Republican and said that the border poll will take another generation, but unification will happen.
              As Derry based and very much a Republican without getting into the intricacies of all that I would largely agree with that. Unification is an inevitability, I think everyone deep down knows that - it has been since partition and the only surprise is the northern state has lasted this long.

              There has been a lot of excited talk about unification post Brexit and it has probably brought it forward to a certain degree by opening up the line of conversation that was avoided generally since the GFA but the demographics aren’t quite right for the vote to carry.

              They are getting there though.

              Anyway not wishing to drag the thread further down that path as it’s about players but just to say I would be largely in agreement with that line of thought.
              Last edited by DCWA; 11/01/2022, 11:09 PM.

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              • The Fly
                Seasoned Pro
                • Sep 2008
                • 2500

                #8
                Originally posted by seanfhear
                The numbers are certainly no where near there at the moment for a border poll to be won. I am not sure if I would vote to join with the South if I was given the chance.
                Why's that?
                Last edited by The Fly; 12/01/2022, 2:18 AM.

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                • seanfhear
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 5452

                  #9
                  Originally posted by The Fly
                  Why's that?
                  I have no desire to be ruled by FG/FF/ Greens / Sinn Féin / Any of the Parties in the Dáil.

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                  • third policeman
                    First Team
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 1208

                    #10
                    Originally posted by seanfhear
                    I have no desire to be ruled by FG/FF/ Greens / Sinn Féin / Any of the Parties in the Dáil.
                    Fair enough but the DUP aren’t exactly an attractive option and the current UK Government is hardly a model of good governance. Most of family live in the North and many would have been equivocal about a United Ireland even though they carry Irish passports, support the ROI team and vote SDLP. It’s the NHS, worries about potential loyalist violence and feeling that GFA gives them a sense of recognition within NI. Brexit has changed that view to some extent. There was a poll by Lord Ashcroft’s polling company in December that suggested 66% of people in NI now thought it would happen within 10 years.

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                    • Diggs246
                      Seasoned Pro
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 2709

                      #11
                      Originally posted by third policeman
                      Fair enough but the DUP aren’t exactly an attractive option and the current UK Government is hardly a model of good governance. Most of family live in the North and many would have been equivocal about a United Ireland even though they carry Irish passports, support the ROI team and vote SDLP. It’s the NHS, worries about potential loyalist violence and feeling that GFA gives them a sense of recognition within NI. Brexit has changed that view to some extent. There was a poll by Lord Ashcroft’s polling company in December that suggested 66% of people in NI now thought it would happen within 10 years.
                      Also I would add that, Im pretty sure Sinn Fein are up there as well

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                      • seanfhear
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 5452

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Diggs246
                        Also I would add that, Im pretty sure Sinn Fein are up there as well
                        is it the same Sinn Féin ? ~ They don’t always seem to be the same party, North and South.

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                        • The Fly
                          Seasoned Pro
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 2500

                          #13
                          Originally posted by seanfhear
                          I have no desire to be ruled by FG/FF/ Greens / Sinn Féin / Any of the Parties in the Dáil.
                          So you're more content being ruled by the various parties at the NI Assembly and Westminster?

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                          • seanfhear
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 5452

                            #14
                            Originally posted by The Fly
                            So you're more content being ruled by the various parties at the NI Assembly and Westminster?
                            I don’t live in Northern Ireland.

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                            • The Fly
                              Seasoned Pro
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 2500

                              #15
                              Originally posted by seanfhear
                              I don’t live in Northern Ireland.
                              And you don't live in the South?

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