Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's proposed "Green New Deal" advocates a guaranteed living income to those who are unwilling to work.
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I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one. -
I thought it advocated paying people enough money so that they could live (A mad thought by US standards alright)
Apparently Yale researchers say 81% of those polled broadly agree with 'GND'
I'm guessing you are in the Ivanka Trump corner Skstu - who thinks that Americans should 'earn' what they get paid. Whatever that means coming from the grand-daughter of a billionaire.Comment
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It advocated that those who were unable and/or unwilling to work should be paid a guaranteed living income.
I don’t know enough about the spat between the two at this point but I believe that most people want to have the opportunity to earn a living and have their time valued fairly. If that is what the story there is about.I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.Comment
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Is this what you’re referencing?
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.Comment
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Yeah, well it was this interview I was referring to - she clarified her comments in the tweet, badly.
Her lack of self awareness is staggering - even for a Trump!During an interview with Fox News, Trump, 37, who serves as a senior White House adviser, was asked about Ocasio-Cortez’s manifesto and how she feels about people who may be sold on the proposal’s to ensure jobs provide a wage which can sustain a family.
“I don’t think most Americans in their heart want to be given something,” Trump said.
“I’ve spent a lot of time traveling around this country over the last four years. People want to work for what they get, so I think this idea of a guaranteed minimum is not something most people want.”
“They want the ability to be able to secure a job. They want the ability to live in a country where there’s potential for upward mobility.”
The interview was on Fox news - so we staying on topic in a roundabout way anyway!Comment
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I was just wondering. Your comments earlier about work ethic ring hollow.
There are 20 million Americans living under the poverty line.
80% of US workers live "paycheck to paycheck"
So while polititican's over there try and hatch a plan to try and eradicate some of this in some way - all you can take out of it is "Work Ethic is really taking a beating lately"Comment
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From your previous posts, I can see that you and I have polar opposite viewpoints on current affairs in America.I was just wondering. Your comments earlier about work ethic ring hollow.
There are 20 million Americans living under the poverty line.
80% of US workers live "paycheck to paycheck"
So while polititican's over there try and hatch a plan to try and eradicate some of this in some way - all you can take out of it is "Work Ethic is really taking a beating lately"
My idea of America (and this is likely shared by the tens of thousands queing up to get into the country) is that it is the land of opportunity.
I have seen several Irish lads become millionaires over the last couple of decades, but unfortunately the 'land of opportunity' is quickly running out of opportunities.
You mention politicians trying to eradicate poverty. Politicians over here are - well, how can I say it?
I'm sure you were told as a youngster that politicians will promise you the world to get your vote, and once they get it they forget all about their promises.
It seems to be the way of it the world over, and it's no different here in America.
So, to answer your question, there are many 'plans' to eradicate poverty, but which of them are genuine, when you're dealing with said politicans.
There is one prominent figure, who is clearly not a politican, and I believe I'm right in saying, he holds just as much disdain for his own Republican party as he does for the Dems (after all they gave him the princely sum of zero dollars for his campaign). Not hard to figure out - he was in Vietnam yesterday. Truth is he is beaten from pillar to post here by the media every day, despite doing a multitude of good things for America.
Regarding Ocasio-Cortez. Her ideas are quite scary. This Green New Deal will end all fossil fuel dependency in the next 12 years. It also calls for every building in the US to be retrofitted with energy saving light bulbs etc (I think someone estimated the cost to be in the billions for NYC alone). And she is seeking to end air travel in the US in the next ten years, to be replaced by high speed trains.
And what will China be doing while America is consumed with this green deal?Comment
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You forgot cows - Democrats want to kill all the cows according to Ted Cruz
GOP President Ronna McDaniel took it a step further - Democrats want us to live on Dog Food, like people in Venezuela.
That whole Aaron Rupar (Vox journo) Thread on twitter chronicling the Conservative American Union conference over the weekend is amazing stuff - starts here:
Highlights/Lowlights (Delete as appropriate) include:
-Stalin dreamed about taking away people's hamburgers
-Jokes about the assassination of Kim Jong Un
-Freedom not socialism ended slavery & WWII (Nope, me either)
-Mocking the ghost of John McCain
-Cow killers / Dog Food & Democrats
-Trump hugs an American Flag
-Trump mocks Jeff Sessions' accent
-Trump lauds technology (Tivo) invented nearly 15 years ago
-A Train to Hawaii
-"I'm in the White House and I was lonely. I said, 'let's go to Iraq!''Comment
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Don't get the whole cow flatulence thing? Cows have been around forever, but for some reason they are now a problem for Democrats. It is a hard one to get your head around.You forgot cows - Democrats want to kill all the cows according to Ted Cruz
GOP President Ronna McDaniel took it a step further - Democrats want us to live on Dog Food, like people in Venezuela.
That whole Aaron Rupar (Vox journo) Thread on twitter chronicling the Conservative American Union conference over the weekend is amazing stuff - starts here:
Highlights/Lowlights (Delete as appropriate) include:
-Stalin dreamed about taking away people's hamburgers
-Jokes about the assassination of Kim Jong Un
-Freedom not socialism ended slavery & WWII (Nope, me either)
-Mocking the ghost of John McCain
-Cow killers / Dog Food & Democrats
-Trump hugs an American Flag
-Trump mocks Jeff Sessions' accent
-Trump lauds technology (Tivo) invented nearly 15 years ago
-A Train to Hawaii
-"I'm in the White House and I was lonely. I said, 'let's go to Iraq!''
John McCain - he deserved credit for his service to America and enduring the torture that he did, but he became quite crazy ideologically speaking towards the end. Media could not stand him for years, but then loved him once he opposed Trump.
Jeff Sessions - not much to be gained by mocking his accent. But he should be mocked for his complete uselessness while in the job of Attorney General (pretty sure a story will emerge there one day).
Train to Hawaii - Or a train to Europe. Take your pick. That apparently is what the Democrats are thinking. They want to end all air travel within ten years. How does one get to Asia or Europe?
Trump hugging the flag - That's fine with meComment
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ENDING FOSSIL FUEL DEPENDENCY!!!??? OH THE HORROR!!!??? BTW, onshore wind power and solar are now the cheapest sources of electricity bar none - Texas(!) gets about 16% of its electricity from windpower already, and they haven't even scratched the surface of their solar potential. Hell, if the US is still dependent on fossil fuels in 2030, it's a sign you're really getting ripped off by the industry special interests (like that lovely Robert E. Murray).
And the cost of energy savings light bulbs will be in the billions for NYC? You mean more than one billion? Like, maybe 2 billion? Over 12 years? So... roughly the same cost as one and a half F35s per year. Of course that's assuming that figure you quoted is in any way accurate and is net of the normal cost of replacing lightbulbs in NYC over 12 years.
Trying to maintain the competitive advantage they've established in the production of solar panels, I'm guessing. Oh, if only the rest of the country had listened to Schwarzenegger, you'd be ahead of the game on that.
You're kidding right? The impact of cows on the greenhouse effect has been known for thirty years - and it's a triple threat:
i) The destruction of carbon sink forests to make way for pasture land
ii) The levels of energy that goes into cattle-breeding (which is for more than other meats)
iii) The belching and flatulence, which produces methane, which is a powerful greenhouse gas - this can be mitigated through breeding and diet (or you could just have a falafel every now and again... it won't kill ya)Comment
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I really didn't know that about cows. Being serious. Are there other animals we need to worry about?
You're a little off on the numbers for the energy savings.
Just heard an estimate today of 9 trillion for the whole country (I did mention NYC, but this is a proposed national program by Cortez).
Has Ireland adopted a similar change over policy to energy saving lights? It must have been quite an undertaking?
And about China, you are absolutely correct, they will be trying to maintain their competitive advantage. It should be pretty easy for them by then given that the progressive wing of the Dem party is
embracing full blown socialism and is gaining support, it appears, every day. China are also the number one polluters in the world (taking over from the US recently) and are quite adept at taking other countries' intellectual property. So I'd say they'll be well and truly in the drivers seat economically in ten years time if trends continue.
One can only hope that certain people here, and the media who support them, will come to their sensesComment
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