Trump

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • KrisLetang
    Banned
    • Aug 2016
    • 572

    #571
    Originally posted by DannyInvincible



    What is such speculation based on?
    I would start here:
    Bernie Sanders' campaign has tried to distance him from a 1972 essay in which he wrote that a woman "fantasizes being raped by three men simultaneously."

    Comment

    • Real ale Madrid
      The Cheeto God
      • Oct 2002
      • 4102

      #572
      Originally posted by KrisLetang
      In other words - nothing.

      Sanders has a lifelong reputation built on supporting and sponsoring Women's rights and the fight against sexual assault. Yet you seem happy to speculate about the possibility that "one or two" women may have made allegations against him based on a dumb essay he wrote 45 years ago.

      Comment

      • DannyInvincible
        Capped Player
        • Sep 2006
        • 11521

        #573
        Originally posted by KrisLetang
        Wasn't he attacking 1970s gender stereotypes by satirising how patriarchal society framed and portrayed women's sexuality? He wasn't personally advocating violence against women or saying that women secretly wanted to be raped. He was attacking men's attraction to narratives or notions - such as "she must have wanted it" - that downplayed or "justified" abuse.

        In Sanders' own words:
        "It was a poorly written article dealing with gender stereotypes of the period, in the sense that a lot of men have the feel to be all powerful and controlling. Women have the feeling they have to be dependent. It was very poorly written in a way I certainly would not write it now. But if you read it, what you find is that is a bad situation for both people: women shouldn’t be dependent. Men should not be oppressors. We want a society where people are equal. That was about it was about."

        I think you've read the "offending paragraph" as a literal rendering of Sanders' personal views - which it isn't - so the actual point of the essay obviously went right over your head. That this essay was disingenuously framed by those hostile to Sanders as a blemish on his character is pure bogus perception management and you appear to have fallen for it, hook, line and sinker.

        Even if that paragraph was Sanders' personal thinking at the time, it's hardly justification for your borderline-defamatory conjecture that it's "VERY possible" he might have sexually abused multiple women, is it?

        What else is there to add weight to your silly comment, seeing as you said that essay is merely where you "would start"?
        My blog.
        FIFA Player Eligibility in the Context of Ireland: The Actual Rules, the Real Facts and Dispelling the Prevailing Myths.

        Comment

        • KrisLetang
          Banned
          • Aug 2016
          • 572

          #574
          Actually MSNBC's (far left) Joy Reid brought that up today in a give and take with Jane Sanders on Twitter.

          Comment

          • DannyInvincible
            Capped Player
            • Sep 2006
            • 11521

            #575
            Ha, MSNBC is not "far-left".

            Anyway, I've no idea what Reid said, so what's your point? It's still baloney.
            My blog.
            FIFA Player Eligibility in the Context of Ireland: The Actual Rules, the Real Facts and Dispelling the Prevailing Myths.

            Comment

            • KrisLetang
              Banned
              • Aug 2016
              • 572

              #576
              The farthest left. Rachel Maddow, etc......https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC_controversies

              Well that it is a prominent black female democrat who thinks Sanders is "dismissive of women around him, including his wife." I think other females might feel the same.
              Last edited by KrisLetang; 30/11/2017, 8:31 PM.

              Comment

              • Real ale Madrid
                The Cheeto God
                • Oct 2002
                • 4102

                #577
                Originally posted by KrisLetang
                The farthest left. Rachel Maddow, etc......https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC_controversies

                Well that it is a prominent black female democrat who thinks Sanders is "dismissive of women around him, including his wife." I think other females might feel the same.
                Dismissive ? That all you got? Anything else? Let's be clear: you are insinuating that Sanders probably would have had 2 or 3 women come out with "accusations" based on a 45 year old essay and "dismissive"

                Comment

                • DannyInvincible
                  Capped Player
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 11521

                  #578
                  Originally posted by KrisLetang
                  The farthest left. Rachel Maddow, etc......https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC_controversies
                  I'm not even sure it's left on the political spectrum. Maybe less right or more centrist than other mainstream media in the US would be a better way of putting it. Maddow might be socially liberal, but she's a hawkish fiscal conservative.

                  The notion of a genuine left-right spectrum within mainstream US politics is a pretence, as Chomsky explains in this video:



                  Well that it is a prominent black female democrat who thinks Sanders is "dismissive of women around him, including his wife." I think other females might feel the same.
                  Other females like who? Like Sanders' wife? She strongly rubbished Reid's contention and she's got first-hand experience of the man in question.

                  Anyway, even if he has been "dismissive" of women - I don't know enough about his personal life to know, so feel free to elaborate with evidence - it's still no justification for your ludicrous abuse insinuation.

                  And what exactly is meant by "dismissive" here anyway? What's it in reference to?
                  Last edited by DannyInvincible; 01/12/2017, 5:19 AM.
                  My blog.
                  FIFA Player Eligibility in the Context of Ireland: The Actual Rules, the Real Facts and Dispelling the Prevailing Myths.

                  Comment

                  • dahamsta
                    Director
                    • May 2001
                    • 14107

                    #579
                    One of the trolls from this thread actually thought it would be funny to try to troll me personally, so they've been banned. Since only they and one other person cared about this thread, and then only for trolling and/or feeding their idiocy, this thread is going the same way. All future discussion of the Idiocracy will be fact-based.

                    Comment

                    Working...