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  • the-blue-harp
    Reserves
    • Sep 2008
    • 359

    #1

    Job-Bridge Taking advantage of the unemployed

    I am starting a thread to highlight something I feel strongly about. I think it is well known for some months that the Jobbridge scheme is being taken advantage of by some employers. But nothing seems to be getting done about it. I have started this petition with an aim to getting the point across to the people in charge of the scheme that with some tweaks it could be a good for actual internships but as it stands I believe it is harming the jobs market even further. So please lend your support it only takes a few seconds to put your name down and hopefully we can make some positive change to the scheme.
    Thanks.

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/j...he-unemployed/
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  • mypost
    International Prospect
    • Dec 2004
    • 5120

    #2
    I don't think there is any doubt that the jobbridge scheme is taken advantage of, but the government don't care. To them, it's all about slashing the social welfare bill.
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    • the-blue-harp
      Reserves
      • Sep 2008
      • 359

      #3
      I agree, but nothing is going to change if we dont act...
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      • Poor Student
        Coach
        • Sep 2004
        • 8048

        #4
        It's a real race to the bottom initiative. Once the government steps in and subsidises something then it can't step back.

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        • the-blue-harp
          Reserves
          • Sep 2008
          • 359

          #5
          Originally posted by Poor Student
          It's a real race to the bottom initiative. Once the government steps in and subsidises something then it can't step back.
          Thats it, why would I pay you 500 euro if I can get someone in for 50 at most!! Its OK for actual internships, otherwise employers are taken the ****. Waiters/petrol pump attendants/cleaners/gardeners the list goes on, absolute joke. Sign the petition so I can try and use it to get it changed... Worth a shot.
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          • dahamsta
            Director
            • May 2001
            • 14107

            #6
            I don't think an online petition will solve anything unless there's a follow through: presentation of a printout, lobbying, etc, but I've signed it in the hope of that.

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            • Macy
              Godless Commie Scum
              • Jun 2001
              • 11395

              #7
              The only way it'll change if people report bogus internships advertised, and/or the people on the internships report abuses.

              Personally I think they're great in theory, but employers in this state just cannot be trusted. Just add their taking advantage of this to a very long list of examples.
              If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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              • Dodge
                Now with extra sauce!
                • Jun 2001
                • 23528

                #8
                Thats just it. The idea itself isn't the worst.

                But when you see Hotels offering position that basically amount to a job that should be paid €40k easily (like entertainment manager etc etc) it makes a joke of the whole thing

                *Above example ios forma similar thread on this/another forum that stuck in my head
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                • total hoofball
                  First Team
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 1321

                  #9
                  Work experience is always welcome but the Internship programme is yet again another mis-diagnosis of a important problem by this government. People are not unemployed because they don't have enough experience, they are unemployed because there are no jobs ('no jobs' = fcuk all jobs). 75% of the internships advertised are positions that would take no more than 2 weeks to train up not 6-9 bloody months. Wiping tables, stacking shelves, serving fast food = 1 day of an induction. Some of the more technical internships may be good for recent graduates but I suspect reading the specs many are looking for experienced workers.

                  Quite simply the government don't give a ****e about the unemployment crisis. They only created Jobbridge to provide the optics that they care and are pro-actively doing something about it which some people have bought into.

                  Joan Burton, the DSP and TDs are being inundated with complaints and criticisms of the scheme. She and the government consistently shoot down any negative criticisms when it is a blatantly poorly implemented scheme facilitating job displacement. Trying petitions is all well and good, but this is Burton's pet 'make it look like I'm doing something' project and she is unrelentless in its defence.

                  A few weeks ago the Sunday Times reported that 75% of participants were dropping out the programme and suddenly the next day Burton and the DSP announced an extension of the scheme by 1,000 places and proclaimed the programme as 'success' and that is 'working'. She claimed that 700+ out of 2000 got jobs either directly with the participating company or other companies following the completion of their internships yet they have failed to publish any verifiable statistics to back this up and FOI requests for this information have been shot down. Something really stinks about it all.
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                  • total hoofball
                    First Team
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 1321

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Macy
                    The only way it'll change if people report bogus internships advertised, and/or the people on the internships report abuses.
                    I reported one last month that was looking for HR administrator with 1+ years experience. No reply to my report and it was still up 2 weeks later.

                    FAS don't filter or scan these positions, they throw them straight up.
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                    • Macy
                      Godless Commie Scum
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 11395

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dodge
                      But when you see Hotels offering position that basically amount to a job that should be paid €40k easily (like entertainment manager etc etc) it makes a joke of the whole thing
                      Put in more controls and time how long ISME take to start moaning about red tape. Again.
                      If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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                      • NeverFeltBetter
                        International Prospect
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 5210

                        #12


                        Limerick FC looking for a cook and a "Marketing Administrator". They say "It is envisioned that both of these roles will develop into paid positions within the club following the end of the Job Bridge internship."

                        Why not just hire people as actual paid workers then? This is essentially saying "Work for free for 9 months, and then we'll give you a job, maybe".
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                        • Charlie Darwin
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                          • Jan 2010
                          • 18576

                          #13
                          Originally posted by total hoofball
                          I reported one last month that was looking for HR administrator with 1+ years experience. No reply to my report and it was still up 2 weeks later.

                          FAS don't filter or scan these positions, they throw them straight up.
                          It's not FÁS, it's an entirely new quango they set up.

                          JobBridge is a disaster, as anybody with a brain predicted when it was announced, and has led to many full-time jobs being downgraded to internships. However I wouldn't blame it all on JobBridge - even before it was announced, anyone actively seeking work would have seen all sorts of jobs being advertised as "internships". My favourite was an internship "opportunity" at a hotel in Dublin which offered the intern training in "answering phones".

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                          • NeverFeltBetter
                            International Prospect
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 5210

                            #14


                            Oh **** off.
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                            • BonnieShels
                              Coach
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 12090

                              #15
                              That's a disgrace.
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