Kim Jong-Il has died

[Lim till i die]

Was informed by a Labour Party Councillor today that the Irish Worker's Party sent a funeral wreath to the despots funeral. Are the for real????

If some of the Labour lads were a bit more honest they'd be going over themselves in fairness.

The reporting on North Korea has been staggeringly, predictably, atrocious.

[Spudulika]

Interesting that you took his response to mean that. I took it to mean that the comparison was just really, really stupid.

Weird, your wum put in seems stupid, though I wouldn't say that of course. :-)

Fair enough Mr. A, Bertie and co wouldn't be in the same league as Il, though in the bankrupting (or in Kenny's case - continuing the bankrupting) of one's country, they're not strangers.

[pineapple stu]

Spud - do you have to dismiss everyone who disagrees with you as a wum? John83 is correct with what he says; Mr A was correct to dismiss your post as stupid (and gave perfectly valid reasons why). There's really no two ways about it. Just move on.

You say both bankrupted their countries - let's be honest, while we haven't got it rosy here, it's nothing compared to the millions dying or starving in North Korea while the government spend all their money on nuclear weapons so they can throw shapes at the South. Seriously, some perspective is needed here.

[Spudulika]

PS, it's a very constructive and intelligent thing to disregard others posts or points as stupid - although I should the same back. It'd be easier and I don't have to make a point of my own - just say, that's stupid - or do you disagree with that? A person can say -I disagree because.......

Agreed on perspective - precious little in media coverage of either situation. It's disgusting how the Irish media do their utmost to not just ape but cut and paste English media coverage. There are far more important and disturbing events taking place yet the media lead the sheep to a conclusion that, if you don't agree with it, you're a commie, socialist or stupid.

What has been surprising, in the last week, is the number of Irish and British who've visited North Korea in the last few years and the stories all seem to differ yet be the same. On some phone in shows there was almost a race to the bottom of the "most shocking tourist story....ever!!" league, though one thing seemed to be common. The locals were decent, friendly and friendly. If the son can open up the country a little without letting McDonalds and Starbucks take over, they might just have a chance.

[pineapple stu]

A person can say -I disagree because.......

In fact, Mr A did say "I disagree because......." He clearly refuted your post, giving reasons. To disagree with you is not to WUM.

[Spudulika]

PS, I have no problem with that, even his using the word "silly", I didn't mention WUM to Mr. A. I had to check again to make sure you got that one wrong.

[pineapple stu]

You mentioned wum to John83. You were also wrong there; he was right to say that he thought your point was stupid, for the reasons previously mentioned. You were wrong to accuse Mr A of a repressive mentality, you were wrong to compare Mr A to Bertie.

Let's move on, shall we?

[The Fly]

You mentioned wum to John83. You were also wrong there; he was right to say that he thought your point was stupid, for the reasons previously mentioned. You were wrong to accuse Mr A of a repressive mentality, you were wrong to compare Mr A to Bertie.

Let's move on, shall we?

I agree. Enough of this craziness.

Let's keep the discussion focused on the greatest golfer who ever lived!

[pineapple stu]

And the greatest cinema buff. And the first miracle birth in 2000 years. And the only person in North Korea with an e-mail address.

And in fact, time for some Kim Jong Il crazy facts, cos they're good fun. And while I'm at it, I'll recommend again (after doing so in the books thread) This is Paradise - My North Korean Childhood by Hyok Kang and Nothing to Envy by Barbara Demick, which is based on interviews with some who've fled North Korea for the South. Two super books.

[Spudulika]

You mentioned wum to John83. You were also wrong there; he was right to say that he thought your point was stupid, for the reasons previously mentioned. You were wrong to accuse Mr A of a repressive mentality, you were wrong to compare Mr A to Bertie.

Let's move on, shall we?

Well, they both behaved stupidly, but it's better to just let go, it's Christmas after all :-)

I don't know if most of the world (who had the misfortune to squirm through Team America) could have taken him seriously. I felt the same was the case with Saddam Hussein after South Park: The Movie. Maybe humour is a better weapon against dictators we're not supposed to like.

[pineapple stu]

You don't think we should take Kim Jong Il or Saddam Hussein seriously based on a cartoon?!

At this stage, I'm not entirely sure if I should take you seriously tbh!

[SkStu]

According to North Korean media, Kim Jong Il is not, in fact, dead but is winning an international sleeping contest!!

[The Fly]

According to North Korean media, Kim Jong Il is not, in fact, dead but is winning an international sleeping contest!!

Ba-dum-chh!

[SkStu]

Im here all week!

[pineapple stu]

Natural phenomena seen around the time of Kim's death.

Kim Jong-Il as pure as snow.

I love that site!