Budget brought forward

[OneRedArmy]

But the last benchmarking gave most public servants a zero percent increase?

as is the case in most of the private sector, with the added fear of redundancy.

My point still stands, in the good times they wanted to hang on the coat tails of the private sector but they won't accept the same risks in the bad times.

Public sector job security should be reflected in pay awards that are consistently less than the private sector.

[Macy]

That was because I think for the first time the better public sector pensions were factored into the mix. Not trying to drag this off topic too much.

Yeah, it is off topic, but that says more on the attacks on the provisions for private sectors. It's private sector workers being spun - it's their deal that has got worse rather than public sector having got better. Unfortunately too many in this country have fallen for it.

[pete]

Yeah, it is off topic, but that says more on the attacks on the provisions for private sectors. It's private sector workers being spun - it's their deal that has got worse rather than public sector having got better. Unfortunately too many in this country have fallen for it.

I think the government have proposed a 6 month freeze in the private sector & 12 months in the public sector which seems fair enough. TBH I don't really see the need for National Pay deals anymore as doesn't seem like anyone uses it anyway.

It would be better to negotiate on case per case basis which is what I feel happens in the real world anyway. All employees try to get the best for themselves but some years their employers says there is no money as been a bad year & you just have to accept it.

With an 8 billion budget deficit I can't see how the state can afford to pay wage increases. Borrowing to pay wages is how we got into trouble in the late 70s.