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  • Eire06
    First Team
    • Jan 2005
    • 1564

    #1

    O'Donoghue murder case - Verdict in

    Robert Holohan murder trial

    Wayne O'Donoghue has been found Not Guitly of Murder
    Guilty of manslaughter

    Quote from RTE News
    Wayne O'Donoghue has been found not guilty of murder but guilty of the manslaughter of 11-year-old Robert Holohan.

    The jury at the Central Criminal Court, sitting in Cork, deliberated for four hours and 21 minutes before reaching a verdict.

    O'Donoghue, an Engineering Student, had admitted killing his eleven-year-old neighbour in January of this year.
    Last edited by Eire06; 14/12/2005, 4:40 PM.
  • finlma
    First Team
    • Oct 2003
    • 1136

    #2
    Seems fair to me - I don't think he intended to kill the guy

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    • Block G Raptor
      Seasoned Pro
      • Oct 2005
      • 3986

      #3
      It all seemed a bit Sus IMO

      stopping to get a bottle of lucozade with the kid in the Boot

      returning to the scene to burn the bags not the body?

      helping in the search and not finding the body for day's

      no I'm sorry i think there is a lot of questions need answering

      anyway whats the story with a 21 yearold being "great Friends" with an 11 yr old and his younger sister . something doesn't ring through there for me
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      • Peadar
        International Prospect
        • Jun 2001
        • 8584

        #4
        Originally posted by Block G Raptor
        no I'm sorry i think there is a lot of questions need answering
        I trust that all those questions, and more, were raised during the trial.

        Originally posted by Block G Raptor
        anyway whats the story with a 21 yearold being "great Friends" with an 11 yr old and his younger sister
        It's not unusual for people in rural communities to be friends with people of a different age group. When you don't have many neighbours close by, you tend to be friendly with the neighbours that you do have.
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        • Eire06
          First Team
          • Jan 2005
          • 1564

          #5
          A lot of Wayne's actions after the death of Robert were very strange alright.
          I found the stopping at the shop to buy Lucosade particularly odd and chilling!!
          Doesn't seem like the actions of someone who accidentally killed a friend of his...
          But yet again who can say what goes through your mind after you kill someone

          He also supposedly rang Roberts phone after he had disposed of the body

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          • finlma
            First Team
            • Oct 2003
            • 1136

            #6
            Originally posted by Block G Raptor
            It all seemed a bit Sus IMO

            stopping to get a bottle of lucozade with the kid in the Boot

            returning to the scene to burn the bags not the body?

            helping in the search and not finding the body for day's

            no I'm sorry i think there is a lot of questions need answering
            I'm sure he panicked as most people would in that situation. Lucozade is great for calming the nerves

            Originally posted by Block G Raptor
            anyway whats the story with a 21 yearold being "great Friends" with an 11 yr old and his younger sister .
            Its called the country-side Block G. Doesn't happen up there in the big smoke but if you don't have neighbours for miles you can make friends with younger/older people. I'm sure they weren't best friends - just kicked around a ball whatever else.

            Originally posted by Block G Raptor
            something doesn't ring through there for me
            It mighn't "ring through" for you but it "rings true" for me


            EDIT: Posted before I read Peadar's post.

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            • tiktok
              Coach
              • Feb 2003
              • 5623

              #7
              Originally posted by Block G Raptor
              It all seemed a bit Sus IMO

              stopping to get a bottle of lucozade with the kid in the Boot

              returning to the scene to burn the bags not the body?

              helping in the search and not finding the body for day's

              no I'm sorry i think there is a lot of questions need answering

              anyway whats the story with a 21 yearold being "great Friends" with an 11 yr old and his younger sister . something doesn't ring through there for me
              From the little I know of the case it sounds like the correct decision.
              I assume he'll get a custodial sentence for the manslaughter now

              I got the impression that the 'close friends' thing was a media invention. The only quotes from the families I've seen speak of how Robert looked up to Wayne, which is a completely different thing to friendship.

              But Peadar may be on the money too.
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              • Block G Raptor
                Seasoned Pro
                • Oct 2005
                • 3986

                #8
                Originally posted by Peadar

                It's not unusual for people in rural communities to be friends with people of a different age group. When you don't have many neighbours close by, you tend to be friendly with the neighbours that you do have.
                I understand that but I'd still find it strange for a 21yrold to have enough in common with an 11 yr old and 7yrold(I think she's 7) to enable them to have a strong friendship which is how its described in the sunday world last week
                sunday world also quotes o'donohoe's mother as saying "the three of them played together nearly every day", I dont know many 21yrolds that want to Play with their friends..No I'm not convinced that his intentions were honorable but I may be wrong
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                • Peadar
                  International Prospect
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 8584

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Block G Raptor
                  ...which is how its described in the sunday world last week
                  You might want to stop now before you dig yourself in any deeper.
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                  • Block G Raptor
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                    • Oct 2005
                    • 3986

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Peadar
                    You might want to stop now before you dig yourself in any deeper.

                    Yes I know its in the sunday world so it must be true

                    still dont have much else to go on since I dont live in the area or know any of the protaganists in the case then I'm afraid Im left with the media
                    I didnt buy the sw anyway me folks bought it in the boozer sat nite and i read it when i got home
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                    • Peadar
                      International Prospect
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 8584

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Block G Raptor
                      still dont have much else to go on since I dont live in the area or know any of the protaganists in the case then I'm afraid Im left with the media
                      In such cases, it's best to say nothing.
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                      • Eire06
                        First Team
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 1564

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Block G Raptor
                        I understand that but I'd still find it strange for a 21yrold to have enough in common with an 11 yr old and 7yrold(I think she's 7) to enable them to have a strong friendship which is how its described in the sunday world last week
                        sunday world also quotes o'donohoe's mother as saying "the three of them played together nearly every day", I dont know many 21yrolds that want to Play with their friends..No I'm not convinced that his intentions were honorable but I may be wrong
                        I'm in my 20's and I often go out to play football or basketball with the kids on my road..
                        Are you sure you aren't a reporter... You seem to be looking for some seedy element to this case!!

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                        • Block G Raptor
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                          • Oct 2005
                          • 3986

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Peadar
                          In such cases, it's best to say nothing.

                          I've just stated the opinion I have formed with the information provided to me
                          am i not entitled to do that now

                          jebus peader take your head out of your hole for 1 minute
                          at no stage did i say any of the above posts were Gospel
                          just that the case left me with a few doubts as to the validity of the manslaughter plea bargain

                          It all sounds a bit like Ian Huntley's she fell in the bath story IMO
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                          • Block G Raptor
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                            • Oct 2005
                            • 3986

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Eire06
                            I'm in my 20's and I often go out to play football or basketball with the kids on my road..
                            Are you sure you aren't a reporter... You seem to be looking for some seedy element to this case!!

                            Absolutely not a reporter
                            not looking for something seedy in the case
                            just wondering if all is not as we are being led to believe

                            I admit coming from the city i found the Idea of freindships like this being common in rural communites as complete B.S.
                            but judging by the reactions on here to some from outside the capital I stand corrected!
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                            • paul_oshea
                              Capped Player
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 16376

                              #15
                              I'm in my 20's and I often go out to play football or basketball with the kids on my road..
                              #

                              says it all really. block g think you could be right.

                              ah no block g, my neighbours are cool, they are only young, but i get on really well with them and mess about with them, and they are younger than 11!!! but how do you describe that relationship?? brothers is what i heard, not like best friends, cos brothers arent always best friends but you still mess about with them. i play wrestling and stuff with my young neighbours and look forward to going home so i can "play" with them, i put that in quotes because of the way you italiced it. all im saying is i dont have meaningful conversations with them so no i wouldnt describe them as best friends but what other way can you describe that sort of relationship???

                              nothing wrong with that to be honest, though his movement seemed very calculated.
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