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  • EatYerGreens
    Seasoned Pro
    • Feb 2016
    • 3217

    #826
    Originally posted by RathfarnhamHoop
    Well Rovers and Shels do, just not the areas they're currently in, and in rovers case a fairly small area to say the least
    No club in Dublin has got a strong local affinity. Their attendances and the shirts you see kids wandering around in tells its own story.

    And least of all Shels to be honest.

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    • RathfarnhamHoop
      First Team
      • Feb 2016
      • 1454

      #827
      Originally posted by EatYerGreens
      No club in Dublin has got a strong local affinity. Their attendances and the shirts you see kids wandering around in tells its own story.

      And least of all Shels to be honest.
      Don't disagree, just saying technically Rovers and Shels are named after areas.

      To be fair Cabo have the potential to have that local affinity and every so often I think Rovers and Pats are getting there. Don't think Shels have a chance of it while remaining in North Dublin, especially with Bohs connection to the area seemingly growing.

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      • EatYerGreens
        Seasoned Pro
        • Feb 2016
        • 3217

        #828
        Originally posted by RathfarnhamHoop
        Don't disagree, just saying technically Rovers and Shels are named after areas.
        That's just being pedantic though. Streets are irrelevant - there are no parts of Dublin called anything to do with 'Shamrock Rovers' or Shelbourne'

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        • RathfarnhamHoop
          First Team
          • Feb 2016
          • 1454

          #829
          Originally posted by EatYerGreens
          That's just being pedantic though. Streets are irrelevant - there are no parts of Dublin called anything to do with 'Shamrock Rovers' or Shelbourne'
          Shelbourne isn't an official name of anywhere but the street but its sort of an unofficial name around Dublin for the area between Grand Canal, Ballsbridge, Irishtown

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          • D24Saint
            Seasoned Pro
            • Jan 2012
            • 2740

            #830
            Originally posted by RathfarnhamHoop
            Don't disagree, just saying technically Rovers and Shels are named after areas.

            To be fair Cabo have the potential to have that local affinity and every so often I think Rovers and Pats are getting there. Don't think Shels have a chance of it while remaining in North Dublin, especially with Bohs connection to the area seemingly growing.
            The problem we have is that the demographic in Inchicore is all over the place. We have tried with the African and polish communities to no avail and the indian/Pakistanis have no interest in football.

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            • RathfarnhamHoop
              First Team
              • Feb 2016
              • 1454

              #831
              Originally posted by D24Saint
              The problem we have is that the demographic in Inchicore is all over the place. We have tried with the African and polish communities to no avail and the indian/Pakistanis have no interest in football.
              Yeah the best you can do it get them when they're in school and get all the demographics in one go.

              I'm seeing more Polish and Brazilians in Tallaght these days including some with kids which is a good sign.

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              • Ezeikial
                International Prospect
                • Jan 2009
                • 5099

                #832
                Originally posted by RathfarnhamHoop
                Don't disagree, just saying technically Rovers and Shels are named after areas.

                Where is the area known as Rovers?

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                • RathfarnhamHoop
                  First Team
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 1454

                  #833
                  Originally posted by Ezeikial
                  Where is the area known as Rovers?
                  Is that supposed to be a joke?
                  Shamrock Ave.

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                  • D24Saint
                    Seasoned Pro
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 2740

                    #834
                    Originally posted by Ezeikial
                    Where is the area known as Rovers?
                    I have the Shamrock Rovers centinary book, I must dig it out it explains their origins in Irishtown or Ringsend can’t remember which. I’m not sure about $hels they played in Shelbourne Park so not sure if the ground was named after them or vice verse. In passage of time you would have to allow for the changing of terminology for certain locations in the city , an area called one thing over a hundred years ago might not be referred to in the same manner today. IE in Dublin the monto or the Gloucester Diamond.

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                    • RathfarnhamHoop
                      First Team
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 1454

                      #835
                      Originally posted by D24Saint
                      I have the Shamrock Rovers centinary book, I must dig it out it explains their origins in Irishtown or Ringsend can’t remember which. I’m not sure about $hels they played in Shelbourne Park so not sure if the ground was named after them or vice verse. In passage of time you would have to allow for the changing of terminology for certain locations in the city , an area called one thing over a hundred years ago might not be referred to in the same manner today. IE in Dublin the monto or the Gloucester Diamond.
                      Shels are named that because when they were just a group of people playing random matches they were organising a game against the local barracks in beggers bush the barracks asked for a name (something they didn't have) they saw a sign for Shelbourne Road and decided to say Shelbourne. It was is a 42 video recently, apparently there's other potential stories too, nobody really knows the exact origin of it.

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                      • Ezeikial
                        International Prospect
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 5099

                        #836
                        Originally posted by RathfarnhamHoop
                        Is that supposed to be a joke?
                        Shamrock Ave.

                        I'm aware of Shamrock Cottages, Shamrock Place and Shamrock Cottages all off North Strand on Dublins northside.

                        Does Shamrock Avenue still exist?


                        Originally posted by D24Saint
                        I have the Shamrock Rovers centinary book, I must dig it out it explains their origins in Irishtown or Ringsend can’t remember which. I’m not sure about $hels they played in Shelbourne Park so not sure if the ground was named after them or vice verse. In passage of time you would have to allow for the changing of terminology for certain locations in the city , an area called one thing over a hundred years ago might not be referred to in the same manner today. IE in Dublin the monto or the Gloucester Diamond.
                        If none of the Rovers fans know off-hand, it would be interesting to understand the origins

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                        • RathfarnhamHoop
                          First Team
                          • Feb 2016
                          • 1454

                          #837
                          Originally posted by Ezeikial
                          I'm aware of Shamrock Cottages, Shamrock Place and Shamrock Cottages all off North Strand on Dublins northside.

                          Does Shamrock Avenue still exist?




                          If none of the Rovers fans know off-hand, it would be interesting to understand the origins
                          It's now actually called The square, funny coincidence. There's a plaque for the club on the "Catholic men's & women's society of Ireland" building which is just round the corner

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                          • EatYerGreens
                            Seasoned Pro
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 3217

                            #838
                            Originally posted by Ezeikial
                            Where is the area known as Rovers?
                            By definition, isn't is nowhere and everywhere ?

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                            • marinobohs
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 3629

                              #839
                              Originally posted by RathfarnhamHoop
                              Don't disagree, just saying technically Rovers and Shels are named after areas.

                              To be fair Cabo have the potential to have that local affinity and every so often I think Rovers and Pats are getting there. Don't think Shels have a chance of it while remaining in North Dublin, especially with Bohs connection to the area seemingly growing.
                              What part of Tallaght is called Rovers , “technically” or otherwise ?

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                              • RathfarnhamHoop
                                First Team
                                • Feb 2016
                                • 1454

                                #840
                                Originally posted by marinobohs
                                What part of Tallaght is called Rovers , “technically” or otherwise ?
                                You unable to read or something?

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