General promotion/media discussion (split from the attendances thread)

[punkrocket]

It's more about relative size and language than colonialism - it's the same with other obvious places like Austria-Germany, Canada-US

Canada is a lot bigger than the US, and has never been colonised by them, a large portion of the population doesnt even share a language with them

[John83]

What???
They may have tackled it quickly but hardly properly Steve. 20 odd billion being pumped into Anglo is hardly tackling the problem. It would cost around 4 million to build another cystic fibrosis unit. Enough said.
Sorry for going off topic.

Enough said indeed, though interested readers can find more information in dong's paper:
I. M. Dong, "Cystic Fibrosis Units as Drivers of Economic Recovery: Enough Said", Quarterly Journal of Economics, 135(3), Aug 2010.

[legendz]

This thread is going way off topic on how the league can develop! Lets get every county represented at some level in the LoI and sort out the youth structures.

[dcfcsteve]

What???
They may have tackled it quickly but hardly properly Steve. 20 odd billion being pumped into Anglo is hardly tackling the problem. It would cost around 4 million to build another cystic fibrosis unit. Enough said.
Sorry for going off topic.

I wasn't passing judgement on what the Irish government did - just saying that they acted quicker than pretty much anywhere else in tackling their economic problems. Things would be even worse if they hadn't.

Canada is a lot bigger than the US, and has never been colonised by them, a large portion of the population doesnt even share a language with them

The physical size of Canada's landmass is irrelvant, and I stated that it hadn't been colonised by the US. Most of Canada's landmass is empty, and they have a population of only one-tenth of that of the US. Plus only 20% of Canadians use French in their everyday lives, whilst 80% of all Canuks live within 100miles of the US border. Unsurprising therefore that their culture is heavily influenced by their much more populous neighbour.

Spend a bit of time in Canadia and you'll see how heavily influenced it is by the US.

Though I digress....

[dcfcsteve]

Local football in Scotland is the template that we should hope to achieve.ie That people support LOI teams first and EPL second but we are a long way from that goal!

Bizarrely the Scots don't really support English teams full-stop. It's either their local side or, increasingly, one or other of the Old Firm.

It's hard to know how we got ourselves into such a crazy situation where we do the opposite.

[fionnsci]

As an aside - were ordinary adult tickets really €40-50 for tonight's game....?

€50 minimum i think.

[legendz]

Bizarrely the Scots don't really support English teams full-stop. It's either their local side or, increasingly, one or other of the Old Firm.

It's hard to know how we got ourselves into such a crazy situation where we do the opposite.

There aren't enough local derbies really and nor are there enough counties represented to get interest going in the game around the country.

[dong]

There aren't enough local derbies really and nor are there enough counties represented to get interest going in the game around the country.

I could name a few derbies if you feel that's the critical factor missing:

Cork v Waterford
Finn Harps v Derry
Sligo Rovers v Finn Harps
Sligo Rovers v Galway (possibly)
Bohs v Shamrock rovers
Shamrock Rovers v St. Pats
St. Pats v Bohs
Fingal v Bohs
Fingal v St Pats
Mervue v Salthill

I could have left some out. If anything there's too many. Don't see how the Fingal ones are derbies myself but they are mostly referred to as "Dublin Derbies" on MNS and in the media.
Also, I don't think having teams from every county is going to be an answer to the league's "woes".

[Model Club]

Bizarrely the Scots don't really support English teams full-stop. It's either their local side or, increasingly, one or other of the Old Firm.

It's hard to know how we got ourselves into such a crazy situation where we do the opposite.

I know-It was more a case of wishful-hoping tinged with a realisation that the EPL is here to stay and my vision is the best we can hope for but will probably never happen

[legendz]

I could name a few derbies if you feel that's the critical factor missing:

Cork v Waterford
Finn Harps v Derry
Sligo Rovers v Finn Harps
Sligo Rovers v Galway (possibly)
Bohs v Shamrock rovers
Shamrock Rovers v St. Pats
St. Pats v Bohs
Fingal v Bohs
Fingal v St Pats
Mervue v Salthill

I could have left some out. If anything there's too many. Don't see how the Fingal ones are derbies myself but they are mostly referred to as "Dublin Derbies" on MNS and in the media.
Also, I don't think having teams from every county is going to be an answer to the league's "woes".

Good derbies they are too but I think there should be more, though obviously there'd have to be more clubs
Maybe not the answer to the league woes but the only way to promote the league more nationwide is to have more regions represented. Hopefully with the A Championship it will head that way.

[punkrocket]

The physical size of Canada's landmass is irrelvant, and I stated that it hadn't been colonised by the US. Most of Canada's landmass is empty, and they have a population of only one-tenth of that of the US. Plus only 20% of Canadians use French in their everyday lives, whilst 80% of all Canuks live within 100miles of the US border. Unsurprising therefore that their culture is heavily influenced by their much more populous neighbour.

Spend a bit of time in Canadia and you'll see how heavily influenced it is by the US.

It's still bigger.

[dcfcsteve]

It's still bigger.

And your point is.....?

[bingoballs]

I know-It was more a case of wishful-hoping tinged with a realisation that the EPL is here to stay and my vision is the best we can hope for but will probably never happen

My prediction, the EPL will crash and burn in the next few years. Players wages are unsustainable, many of the clubs are carrying serious debt and sugar daddys aren't going to stay for ever while their clubs are heomoraging cash. In fairness to Shams, their attendances prove that there is a potential appetite for domestic football in Ireland.

[legendz]

My prediction, the EPL will crash and burn in the next few years. Players wages are unsustainable, many of the clubs are carrying serious debt and sugar daddys aren't going to stay for ever while their clubs are heomoraging cash. In fairness to Shams, their attendances prove that there is a potential appetite for domestic football in Ireland.

There is a potential appetite too but league structures need to be right first. Not to go on but U16/Youth level up is the way to work on it.

[bingoballs]

There is a potential appetite too but league structures need to be right first. Not to go on but U16/Youth level up is the way to work on it.

Totally agree Legendz, the success of the GAA is their connection to the grassroot levels of their community. If clubs were to be told that they would be given 5 years to have a percentage of home grown players in their first team it would enforce them to start thinking about developing and implomenting decent youth structures. It would also generate a greater sence of connection between the team and the community. The only problem is financing it.