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  • anto eile
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    • Aug 2004
    • 892

    #31
    Originally posted by Gerrit
    Ah, interesting, I was wondering if the man that told me about it was serious on the existance...

    Does it still exist, and was the club effectively named Maccabi ?? The ground still exists ?



    Apart from Maccabi, no teams for "special groups" or so it seems... Unless the LSL club Verona is actually an Italian team... Haven't come across any other name indicating that they a specific community of people. Have not seen other counties' amateur league tables yet though, but I'd expect that if such clubs exist it will most likely be in multicultural Dublin, where I only see that club named Verona and may not even consist of Italians ?
    verona are not italian.
    there is a romanian (romstar2000 i think is the name).
    and a turkish (anatolyans), deaf team (st vincents) and russian (soviet union fc) playing in the leinster football league

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    • anto eile
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      • Aug 2004
      • 892

      #32
      Originally posted by Partizan
      There is a team in Argentina called Vellez Sarsfield (Patrick Sarsfield). Any Irish connection there with...you know with the existence of an Irish ex-pat community in Buenos Aires, Che Guevara's Irish roots from his mother's side, John Browne from Mayo the founder of the Argentine Navy and a certain Bernardo O'Higgins next door in Chile.

      Makes you wonder huh!
      ive checked the vélez website, but no reference to any irishman.
      almirante brown (3rd div) is named after william brown.theres also another lower division team named after him afaik

      che guevaras irish side was his fathers,they were called lynch.his fathers name was Ernesto Guevara Lynch
      Last edited by anto eile; 28/04/2005, 2:20 PM.

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      • Karlos
        First Team
        • Oct 2004
        • 1036

        #33
        as far as I know Maccabi changed their name or at least a large number of their players left and formed Parkvale FC in the late nineties which was made up of all or predominently jewish players. I played against them 4 times between 1999 and 2001 in the amatuer league before they left to go to another league. Beat them in a playoff to gain promotion to the Major Division of the Amatuer League which is about the only highlight in my glittering career (sic)!!!

        They were a good team, hard but fair. Plently of ding dong battles and without trying to sterotype I did notice that there was a large number who wore spurs shirts before games which definetly helped my motivation!!!!
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        • anto eile
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          • Aug 2004
          • 892

          #34
          Originally posted by Terry
          don't know if its true but there is a team playing in argentina called newell's old boys. I was told it was founded by a priest from Ireland.
          founded by isaac newell from kent in england
          their rivals are Rosario Central, of which the aforementioned che guevara was a supporter....(though he preferred rugby)
          Last edited by anto eile; 28/04/2005, 2:20 PM.

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          • Da Real Rover
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            • Mar 2005
            • 1231

            #35
            Im not sure about Velez but i read somewhere that boca juniors were formed by an irish priest and that river plate were formed by a group of english miners or something like that. I guess thats where some of the rivalry has come from. There is a large irish community living in Argentina, something like 400,000.There is a small team in Chile who have O'Higgins in their teams name (another great sligo man).And the priest who formed Celtic was from sligo too. Also Panathinaikos were formed by an irish priest which explains there green strip and the shamrock in there crest. If you ever watch Pana home games they often have the tri-colour at the games. Hasn't Ajax got some conections with the jewish community in Holland.

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            • anto eile
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              • Aug 2004
              • 892

              #36
              Originally posted by dcfcsteve
              There was talk about 10 years ago of the Romanian community in Ireland looking to get a team into the League of Ireland. It didn't progress very far though. I remember at the time there being a few grumbles from people about it not being right. The irony of Celtic FC-loving Ireland complaining about an immigrant community team seeking membership of a league ! You couldn't make it up....
              that was romstar western union.they played in the phoenix park. they were kciked out of the league for fighting on-pitch. the reason why i would object to them playing in the eircom league would be becasue they were an amateur team playing in a public park.you cant jsut ahave any amateur outfit looking for EL membership. there as no real campaign to get them in the el either. they simply said on the soccer show they would like to progress up the league and eventually make it into the EL sometime.a casual statement thats all

              sorry for the multiple posts,its just im replying to each post as i read them!

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              • anto eile
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                • Aug 2004
                • 892

                #37
                Originally posted by Da Real Rover
                Im not sure about Velez but i read somewhere that boca juniors were formed by an irish priest and that river plate were formed by a group of english miners or something like that. I guess thats where some of the rivalry has come from. There is a large irish community living in Argentina, something like 400,000.There is a small team in Chile who have O'Higgins in their teams name (another great sligo man).And the priest who formed Celtic was from sligo too. Also Panathinaikos were formed by an irish priest which explains there green strip and the shamrock in there crest. If you ever watch Pana home games they often have the tri-colour at the games. Hasn't Ajax got some conections with the jewish community in Holland.
                patrick mccarthy was the irishman supposedly who founded boca.however the official history mentions simply a group of italian immigrants founded the club.
                400,000 argentines are of irish descent. in the 1800s 40,000 irish emigrated to argentina.20,000 of which subsequently re-emigrated mostly to the usa.
                the rivalry between boca nad river has nothing to do with irish-english rivalry.bocas chosen colors are a great story btw

                o'higgins football club was named after bernardo o'higgins,son of ambrose o'higgins.bernardo was a virtual dictator in chile,was turfed out and sent inti exile in peru.

                Panathinaikos have no connection to ireland.they were originally founded by a group of englishmen.they originally wore red.the shamrock is a lucky symbol in greece,thats why pao use it.they also have green brother links to Rovers ultras and rapid wien.you do see many tricolors at the pao games,the colors being the main reason i suppose.

                ajax used to have minor connections to the jewish community but this has been blown out of all proportion these days.its bizarre that ajax fans have adopted the star of david as a fans logo.amsterdam had the largest group of jews in holland,so this was shown proportionately in the jewish support for ajax.the jewish thing is a cult thing for ajax.theyre not really a jewish club at all

                palestino play in chile.theyre the palestinian club in the chilean league

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                • Ash
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                  • Jun 2001
                  • 3272

                  #38
                  The shamrock in Panas crest is a trifol plant (or something like that)
                  which grows particularly well in that region, hence they put it on the
                  crest (as far as I know anyway)

                  Nothing to do with an Irish priest or anything like that
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                  • Aberdonian Stu
                    First Team
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 2259

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ash
                    I knew rag weeks team in Sligo RTC called:
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                    Sporting Lesbians is also a team that have been knocking round the UCD Superleague for years, Real-Ale Madrid had a few years in it too.

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                    • Da Real Rover
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                      • Mar 2005
                      • 1231

                      #40
                      Anto eile i didn't actually mean that bocas and rivers rivalry stems from boca been founded by an irishman i know that it comes from the fact that both clubs were located in the slums of Buenes Aires but then River picked up and located to the rich area of the city. This is one of the main reasons for there rivalry as there looked on as oposites in the game as boca are seen as the peoples club and river the rich mans club. I remember when mary mc aleese visited Argentina that RTE mentioned those figures which i was very surprised about, so you could be right or wrong but there is still a siseable amount of irish immigrants living in Buenes Aires.I know how they got there colours, from the swedish flag they saw on a boat.

                      One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter so maybe O'Higgins was a tyrant and maybe he was a liberator but he did free chile from spain. He must still have his fans out there if there willing to name clubs after him and give him an honoury role in their history.

                      Why don't Pana fans wave around italian flags, mexican flags or even ivoary coast flags cause the all have green in there flags. Its a bit more than a coincedence. They were unofficialy set up by an irish monk.

                      I remember talking to a dutch man who was a Utrecht fan but he sateted that the owners of Ajax are Jewish and so they have a few Jewish fans.

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                      • dcfcsteve
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                        • Aug 2004
                        • 6341

                        #41
                        Originally posted by anto eile
                        ajax used to have minor connections to the jewish community but this has been blown out of all proportion these days.its bizarre that ajax fans have adopted the star of david as a fans logo.amsterdam had the largest group of jews in holland,so this was shown proportionately in the jewish support for ajax.the jewish thing is a cult thing for ajax.theyre not really a jewish club at all
                        Ajax's Jewish 'identity' developed over the years - in part due to the large Jewish population within Amsterdam, and in part as a reaction to Feyenoord's more right-wing support. They're 'Jewish' in the same way that Spurs are - i.e. large numbers of the Jewish community in each country identify with them. Spurs have the added reason of being based on the edge of the centre of London's large orthodox Jewish community (Stamford Hill, North-East London). But neither were set-up by or for the Jewish communities.

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                        • Gerrit
                          First Team
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 1325

                          #42
                          Originally posted by anto eile
                          verona are not italian.
                          there is a romanian (romstar2000 i think is the name).
                          and a turkish (anatolyans), deaf team (st vincents) and russian (soviet union fc) playing in the leinster football league
                          on the website of Leinster Senior League I found nothing about those teams, but thanks to anyone who gave great replies in this topic. For a collector of addresses and historical info on football teams, this topic is a gift of God/Allah/Jahweh. Thanks a lot On which grounds do all these teams play ? I'd like to catch a game of them and photograph the grounds.

                          Didn't know there were enough Turkish people for a club in Dublin. I'd rather have expected Chinese/Asian teams and Eastern European teams, as they seem rather represented in Dublin.
                          As a PS: Soviet Union FC has a bit a strange name as the country disappeared after communism was dismantled, and though I have absolutely no problem with the name I wouldn't be surprised some people link it to communism.

                          Where does St Vincents play ?? I have a degree as translator for the Deaf and the Blind, so this surely interests me. In Belgium I saw several games of the Deaf League and deaf national team, but the Deaf League (mixed league for deaf teams from Belgium and Holland) was turned into an indoor/futsal league because of lack of players for outdoor football. Ireland has no Deaf League ??

                          The gay team in London's quite famous yeah. There is a gay league in England with 13 teams as well, as well as a Jewish league. I don't like the word "gay league" as 'gay' seems a bit an insulting word for a homosexual, but they call it "gay league" themselves so apparently it's just me being afraid to insult perfectly nice people.

                          Belgium also has a prisoner's league since shortly. 10 prisons entered a team in it, and the prison of Charleroi (notorious for its many long-term convicts) won the first edition. The prison of Hoogstraten (near Antwerp and the Dutch border) entered a team in a local "regular" amateur league and even won the league, but they had an advantage as every game of them was a home game: they weren't authorised to leave prison to play an away game, so the away games were played on the ground within the prison walls as well.
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                          • anto eile
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                            • Aug 2004
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Ash
                            The shamrock in Panas crest is a trifol plant (or something like that)

                            triflara being greek for shamrock

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                            • anto eile
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                              • Aug 2004
                              • 892

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Da Real Rover
                              I know how they got there colours, from the swedish flag they saw on a boat.


                              One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter so maybe O'Higgins was a tyrant and maybe he was a liberator but he did free chile from spain. He must still have his fans out there if there willing to name clubs after him and give him an honoury role in their history.


                              Why don't Pana fans wave around italian flags, mexican flags or even ivoary coast flags cause the all have green in there flags. Its a bit more than a coincedence. They were unofficialy set up by an irish monk.


                              I remember talking to a dutch man who was a Utrecht fan but he sateted that the owners of Ajax are Jewish and so they have a few Jewish fans.
                              bocas original colors were black and white stripes.but they lost a game v another team who also wore black and white.they played for the right to keep the colors,to avoid a color clash.boca lost.while sitting in the docks in BA, bocas founders decided to choose the colors of the next boat to have as their teams colors.a swedish ship was next into the ahrbor.ergo bocas colors.

                              i said nothing good or bad bout o'higgins.i didnt say he was a terrorist,or freedom fighter.he was an autocrat.you can be a good dictator,or a bad dictator.i made no reference to him being either.in fact he did actually bring in some good social policies in chile.

                              PAO have no connection to ireland.

                              go onto www.greenwebfans.co.uk or www.greenwebfans.com and ask on a forum why they wave irish flags.but its not cause they were founded by irishmen.

                              ajax had a couple of jewish presidents over the years.but not now.the jewish thing is over-played by their fans

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                              • Karlos
                                First Team
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 1036

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Gerrit
                                on the website of Leinster Senior League I found nothing about those teams, but thanks to anyone who gave great replies in this topic. .
                                Try the amateur football league for romstar rapid 2000 information - they play in division 1 on a sunday

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