Republic of Ireland V Serbia - Tuesday, 7th September 2021 - 2022 World Cup Qualifier

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  • pineapple stu
    Biased against YOUR club
    • Aug 2002
    • 40781

    #1

    Republic of Ireland V Serbia - Tuesday, 7th September 2021 - 2022 World Cup Qualifier

    I presume there's similar press releases from Azerbaijan and Serbia today?

    (Well - maybe less scary, but otherwise similar)
  • tetsujin1979
    Coach
    • Nov 2003
    • 23730

    #2
    Originally posted by pineapple stu
    I presume there's similar press releases from Azerbaijan and Serbia today?

    (Well - maybe less scary, but otherwise similar)
    I missed it at the time, but Serbia's squad was announced a week ago

    Fortunately it was also added to Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia...l_team#Players
    Defence seems to be a little inexperienced
    All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on mastodon, BlueSky and facebook

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    • pineapple stu
      Biased against YOUR club
      • Aug 2002
      • 40781

      #3
      Kolarov seems the only real omission going off wiki's "Recent call-ups" list. Maybe Ljajic too. They do seem to be a little light caps-wise in defence and in nets alright, though we'd kill for some of their options such as the Sevilla keeper.

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      • Bielsa´s irish
        Banned
        • Aug 2020
        • 1446

        #4
        If we get a heavy defeat he must resign. Mark Hugues is my candidate we need a motivator

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        • tetsujin1979
          Coach
          • Nov 2003
          • 23730

          #5
          Hughes peaked with Blackburn 13 years ago.
          All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on mastodon, BlueSky and facebook

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          • Diggs246
            Seasoned Pro
            • Oct 2016
            • 2709

            #6
            I wouldn't rule out hughes. He can handle players and get a tune out of them, even when they are only average players

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            • third policeman
              First Team
              • Jun 2008
              • 1208

              #7
              It’s come to a sorry state when I’d even contemplate Harry Redknapp. Not yet willing to countenance Big Sam. Just someone who knows how to set up a team. If this continues, we will have destroyed the confidence of the young players who have been thrust into this shameful chaos.

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              • MylesNotMiley
                Apprentice
                • Aug 2021
                • 76

                #8
                Originally posted by third policeman
                It’s come to a sorry state when I’d even contemplate Harry Redknapp. Not yet willing to countenance Big Sam. Just someone who knows how to set up a team. If this continues, we will have destroyed the confidence of the young players who have been thrust into this shameful chaos.

                I don't think reverting back to a "British" manager is the way to go.
                Do we really want to go back to watching the same tactics as the last few years of the O'Neill era or McCarthy's last term.

                The idea around the Kenny experiment is the right one IMO, but maybe Kenny just isn't good enough to lead the revolution in the playing style.

                I saw a list online with the odds for the next manager. Neil Lennon, Roy Keane, Steve Bruce, Sam Allardyce all among the favorites. That's almost as depressing as Kenny's results.

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                • paul_oshea
                  Capped Player
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 16376

                  #9
                  Score draw. Posters come on to say we look really good and must follow this up at lux away.

                  I do think we'll get the score draw.
                  I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
                  And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
                  I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
                  Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away

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                  • Fixer82
                    Seasoned Pro
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 3449

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bielsa´s irish
                    If we get a heavy defeat he must resign. Mark Hugues is my candidate we need a motivator
                    Is he still alive?
                    Folding my way into the big money!!!

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                    • TonyD
                      Seasoned Pro
                      • May 2004
                      • 2755

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MylesNotMiley
                      I don't think reverting back to a "British" manager is the way to go.
                      Do we really want to go back to watching the same tactics as the last few years of the O'Neill era or McCarthy's last term.

                      The idea around the Kenny experiment is the right one IMO, but maybe Kenny just isn't good enough to lead the revolution in the playing style.

                      I saw a list online with the odds for the next manager. Neil Lennon, Roy Keane, Steve Bruce, Sam Allardyce all among the favorites. That's almost as depressing as Kenny's results.
                      Amen to all that. As someone who has defended Kenny up to now, I still think he’s trying to go about things the right way. For one reason another it’s just not working. It’s frustrating, and must be for him that we do relatively well away to the top two teams in the group, then follow it up with two shockers against Luxembourg and yesterday. At least the effort was there yesterday, and if the finishing was better we could have ended up with a relatively comfortable victory. But we didn’t, so it’s not really much consolation. I feel for Stephen Kenny, but we have to find a way to win some games, otherwise I fear the end is nigh. Please though, no washed up English managers to replace him.
                      Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.

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                      • Stuttgart88
                        Capped Player
                        • May 2004
                        • 18973

                        #12
                        I dunno Tony. Stephen Kelly was on SSN with Richard Dunne earlier. He was saying it's all well and good trying to play between the lines but you need results too. But yesterday and in some other games I didn't even see us try to play between the lines. There was no clever movement or interplay, it was all functional A to B along the touchline or into a channel type stuff. So is he trying to go about things the right way? I'd definitely agree that he's right to ask the players to trust themselves on the ball and there is plenty in his public interviews to agree with in terms of what he wants Irish teams to do, but a lot of the time none of this is evident on the pitch.

                        And yeah, no washed up English managers for me either. I like the Sinn Fein attitude coming from Kenny. I really want to see us succeed with mainly homegrown players with a mainly homegrown coaching team. It's a bit of a purist view but it's a challenge I think we should face face.

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                        • third policeman
                          First Team
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 1208

                          #13
                          Until we have homegrown infrastructure and a competitive domestic league that produces players and managers that can succeed in international football, that’s a long way off. There have to be better options than a guy who was not won a single match and is utterly deluded about the trajectory of his great project.

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                          • pineapple stu
                            Biased against YOUR club
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 40781

                            #14
                            Not sure what to expect out of this game now. I can't see any chance of a win. We ran them close on the scoreboard in Belgrade but really we were very much second best.

                            Probably the best we can hope for in our last four games is improved performances on the first set, but our two best performances were away to the top two teams and I don't see we have what it takes to step things up another gear. An Azerbaijan/Luxembourg-level performance would be ugly against Serbia though.

                            Team-wise - not sure it matters really; we're that weak. I think we should cap Kelleher because, like Bazunu, he'll likely be around for a while to come and should get competitive experience. Robinson up front because he has half an idea where the goal is, which is half an idea more than Idah/Connolly/Parrott at the moment. Agree with those who said Coleman was wasted in centre-back (3-4-3 against Azerbaijan opens up the question of why Clark/Lenihan were left at home even after we lost a centre-half to injury in Portugal)

                            Sometimes the darkest hour is just before the dawn, but I'm not seeing any reason for positivity out of this one.
                            Last edited by pineapple stu; 05/09/2021, 3:47 PM.

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                            • John83
                              Coach
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 9082

                              #15
                              Home to this lot, I think a narrow defeat is the most likely outcome. A draw would be a good result, and a win is very unlikely. Granted, I'm currently demoralised enough to consider a win unlikely versus anyone better than East Timor, but I think I'm being objective in the above.

                              A thumping might be a good result if it sees Kenny finally run or pushed, and I don't like that I'm thinking like that.
                              You can't spell failure without FAI

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