Republic of Ireland v. Wales - Friday, 24th March 2017 - World Cup 2018 Qualifier

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  • TheOneWhoKnocks
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    • Dec 2013
    • 5244

    #196
    Originally posted by Diggs246
    Sorry he does have 4 caps my error. But I am concerned it looks and feels terrible and he has pulled out of squads and then played the following weekend for his club. I fear he will play for Bournemouth on Saturday week
    Never underestimate the power of modern medicine.

    Arter may feel awful for the next five days or so but I'm sure he will be doing the Charleston by Saturday week.
    Last edited by TheOneWhoKnocks; 19/03/2017, 5:17 PM.

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    • Diggs246
      Seasoned Pro
      • Oct 2016
      • 2709

      #197
      Also the rules are there for a reason. He should be in Dublin not Dubai. MON and Roy are clear they couldn't give a rats ass what the various club medical teams say. So I think it's fair to say the player has pulled out and has said he isn't travelling.

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      • DannyInvincible
        Capped Player
        • Sep 2006
        • 11521

        #198
        Originally posted by Diggs246
        Sorry he does have 4 caps my error. But I am concerned it looks and feels terrible and he has pulled out of squads and then played the following weekend for his club. I fear he will play for Bournemouth on Saturday week
        If the Irish medical team doubted the veracity of his present injury, he'd be on a plane to Dublin for a check-up. They're fully entitled to impose such a demand upon a player. It's clear that they haven't, so it's probable they were given good reason not to. If his commitment was in doubt, O'Neill/Keane would have little time for him. You think they'd continue indulging suspected dodgers?

        Which squads did he pull out of before then featuring for Bournemouth the following weekend?

        As I say, we have no idea what goes on behind the scenes unless full details are reported, and full details haven't been reported, so let's not cast aspersions and fill gaps in knowledge with cynical assumptions.
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        • liamoo11
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          • Oct 2010
          • 3115

          #199
          Originally posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
          It is pretty concerning, especially when you see the lengths McCarthy will go in an attempt to participate on Friday - even when under pressure from his own club.
          McCarthy is a warrior for us really think he will play Friday which will be huge for us. Join him with Hendrick and Gibson behind mcgeady McLean and long. Gives you Walters and Murphy if we need to go long in last 15 mins. No wes is a kick in the teeth

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          • Diggs246
            Seasoned Pro
            • Oct 2016
            • 2709

            #200
            Wales 24/3/17

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            • DannyInvincible
              Capped Player
              • Sep 2006
              • 11521

              #201
              Originally posted by Diggs246
              Also the rules are there for a reason. He should be in Dublin not Dubai. MON and Roy are clear they couldn't give a rats ass what the various club medical teams say. So I think it's fair to say the player has pulled out and has said he isn't travelling.
              The management/medical team have obviously decided not to enforce the rule, so I think it would be reasonable to assume they've been provided with sufficient medical evidence to substantiate Bournemouth's injury claims.

              What you're saying is tantamount to accusing Arter of going AWOL without any consultation with our management or medical team. That's a pretty serious allegation and it's totally groundless.
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              • TheOneWhoKnocks
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                • Dec 2013
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                #202
                Originally posted by liamoo11
                McCarthy is a warrior for us really think he will play Friday which will be huge for us. Join him with Hendrick and Gibson behind mcgeady McLean and long. Gives you Walters and Murphy if we need to go long in last 15 mins. No wes is a kick in the teeth
                Yes. McCarthy's attitude is a refreshing contrast to that of Arter's. Meyler, too, will always turn up and give 110% to the cause. Hourihane can come in and give us a bit of impetus and goalscoring threat.

                I agree it would be best to go with Long up front and bring on the aerial bombardment (Walters, Murphy) for the last 20 minutes if Plan A doesn't work.

                Hopefully we will get a better outlook on Hoolahan once he shows up in Dublin so we can get a look at him.

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                • Diggs246
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                  • Oct 2016
                  • 2709

                  #203
                  I'm saying I'm not satisfied. I just feel and it is only an opinion if it was whelan or McClean in the same boat they would swim to dublin

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                  • DannyInvincible
                    Capped Player
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 11521

                    #204
                    Originally posted by Diggs246
                    Wales 24/3/17
                    That's not your answer to this, is it?:

                    Originally posted by DannyInvincible
                    Which squads did he pull out of before then featuring for Bournemouth the following weekend?
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                    • DannyInvincible
                      Capped Player
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 11521

                      #205
                      Originally posted by Diggs246
                      I'm saying I'm not satisfied. I just feel and it is only an opinion if it was whelan or McClean in the same boat they would swim to dublin
                      And you're not privy to the full facts. You have very little insider info. Thus, your opinion isn't worth a huge deal.
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                      • tetsujin1979
                        Coach
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 23730

                        #206
                        Originally posted by Diggs246
                        Sorry he does have 4 caps my error. But I am concerned it looks and feels terrible and he has pulled out of squads and then played the following weekend for his club. I fear he will play for Bournemouth on Saturday week
                        He didn't get injured yesterday, it's entirely possible he wouldn't be fit for Friday, or even to take part in training this week, but after two weeks in Dubai he'll have recovered
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                        • Diggs246
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                          • Oct 2016
                          • 2709

                          #207
                          Neither I you Daniel. This is a forum it's based on opinions. BTW I would love to be wrong

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                          • DannyInvincible
                            Capped Player
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 11521

                            #208
                            Originally posted by Diggs246
                            Neither I you Daniel.
                            Which is why I'm not blindly jumping to conclusions and casting aspersions over Arter's commitment.
                            Last edited by DannyInvincible; 19/03/2017, 5:47 PM.
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                            • MeathDrog
                              First Team
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 1342

                              #209
                              6 starters potentially out for Friday.

                              You would take the draw.
                              You've got no fans.

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                              • TheOneWhoKnocks
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                                • Dec 2013
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                                #210
                                Originally posted by MeathDrog
                                6 starters potentially out for Friday.

                                You would take the draw.
                                O'Shea and Keogh started against Germany and absorbed a similar amount of pressure to what we should expect on Friday. Ward & Coleman are first choice full backs. Randolph is deservedly first choice goalkeeper. Whelan and Hendrick would probably be starting anyway. McCarthy hasn't been ruled out. Meyler impressed more than Arter against Austria IMO and has filled in admirably several times inc. Germany. We can choose between McGeady, McClean, Horgan, Walters and others for the wide positions. Our two best options to play up front (Long, Murphy) are both available and neither are guaranteed to start.

                                All this and I haven't mentioned Conor Hourihane who could come in and do a job for us.

                                It's not doom and gloom.

                                Though it would be a bit worrying if O'Shea or Keogh were to pick up a knock.

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