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  • gspain
    Seasoned Pro
    • May 2003
    • 4020

    #16
    Healy doesn't get on with O'Neill. A celtic fan I know has given a plausible reason (nothing to do with football) which I couldn't post on a bulletin board. However glasgow is always full of rumours and many of them are false.

    In football terms he has been very impressive every time for Ireland. He badly needs a new club and first team football. He looks head and shoulders above any of the current Celtic midfield.

    I agree it may be too early to judge but hopefully we'll know soon.

    I think Delap is a fine player who needs to find a regular position - unlucky to be injured this time round.
    Limerick FC Més que un club

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    • Soko
      Reserves
      • Apr 2003
      • 677

      #17
      Originally posted by sadloserkid

      Also Rory Delap is nowhere near 30, I think he's 26. Small point I know but still.

      I did'nt mean Delap, just the other wasters Kinsella, Holland and Carsley.

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      • tiktok
        Coach
        • Feb 2003
        • 5623

        #18
        So Holland ends up signing for Alan Cirbishley's Charlton for 750000stg. Apparently Curbishley had also tabled a bid for Chelsea's Jody Morris should Holland's personal terms be unrealistic.

        is he worthy more than this, does he think he's worth more than this. why does this transfer look like it's not going to favour any of the parties involved?

        It's not so long since Charlton let Kinsella go to Villa for what at the time looked like a steal, and now with David O'Leary at the helm at that club and 'deadly' doug ellis controlling the purse strings it looks like he's going to have to chase free signings, specifically colin healy.

        would that be a good move for Healy, has O'Leary improved any of the players that have played for him, or is Healy better off at the other clubs interested, everton (with david moyes) or with Mick McCarthy at sunderland?
        Cork City: Making 'Dream Team' seem realistic since 2007.

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        • Slash/ED
          Banned
          • Jun 2003
          • 3907

          #19
          From what I've seen Delap is our best central mid fielder, he's finally settled in that position and watching him this year for Southampton a bit, he's been class for them every time. Healy not getting his game was a pain but has nothing to do with his ability, he showed against Georgia he has more skill in his little toe then Lennons ever shown on a pitch, and hopefully the Villa move comes off, that will be one class central mid field pairing, with Carsley and the emerging Thornton standing by. Maybe Hollands move to Charlton will cause his form to improve too.
          Last edited by Slash/ED; 24/06/2003, 8:47 PM.

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          • The Legend
            Reserves
            • Jun 2001
            • 717

            #20
            There's a lot of hoping in there....

            Personally, i think our midfield is screwed for a year or two...

            Come back Roy, all is forgiven........... NOT!
            "A silent mouth is sweet to hear"

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            • tiktok
              Coach
              • Feb 2003
              • 5623

              #21
              if healy goes to villa and gets his game then,

              holland, carsley, healy, kennedy, duff, delap, kinsella will all be playing top flight football, which is important, there are rumours that even kilbane might be snapped up too. regardless of how good or bad they are, we don't have too many options now, so at least let's have them playing ball at the top level.
              Cork City: Making 'Dream Team' seem realistic since 2007.

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              • The Legend
                Reserves
                • Jun 2001
                • 717

                #22
                Are any of them playing on a team in the Champions league?..
                Nope.

                Or that has any hope of Premiership Champion contention?
                Nope.

                (not yet anyway)
                "A silent mouth is sweet to hear"

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                • tiktok
                  Coach
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 5623

                  #23
                  the champions league improved andy o'brien's game no end didn't it legend?

                  if a player is playing for a premiership outfit week in week out under a good manager he'll hopefully maintain a consistency of performance that we don't see when we drag players from the bench of their respective teams.

                  is there a huge difference between the practice shay given got conceeding two against juventus and six against man yoo.
                  Cork City: Making 'Dream Team' seem realistic since 2007.

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                  • A face
                    Capped Player
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 15373

                    #24
                    Re: Portsmouth

                    Originally posted by Ash
                    Apparently Harry Redknapp is trying to bring him
                    to Portsmouth for £1 million
                    The most he is spending this summer is 300,000 on a player from Wimbeldon, this as of last Friday so ... no. Not true.
                    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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                    • noby
                      First Team
                      • May 2003
                      • 2462

                      #25
                      I think the point that's being made is that awareness and vision is no good if you are sitting in the stand every saturday.(unless the seat is a long way back!)
                      Healy needs to get a regular game, which Delap and Carsley were last season. If he does, it can only improve his game.
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                      • The Legend
                        Reserves
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 717

                        #26
                        the champions league improved andy o'brien's game no end didn't it legend?
                        My point being... playing week in, week out getting your ass kicked while playing for Wolves or Charlton isnt exactly going to grow your confidence.

                        At least Andy O Brien gets more experience playing against Top players and different styles.... in "theory" yes it should improve his game...

                        ... it would for most people, don't you agree?
                        "A silent mouth is sweet to hear"

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                        • tiktok
                          Coach
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 5623

                          #27
                          my point was that they are playing at the top level every saturday, and that week in week out they will be playing against different teams and different styles and that the champions league isn't a prerequisite for good competition.

                          both wolves and charlton will play against champions league competitors a minimum of eight times next season at least.

                          imagine the player healy would be now with two seasons first team football under his belt, even if it was in the scottish league.
                          Cork City: Making 'Dream Team' seem realistic since 2007.

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                          • tiktok
                            Coach
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 5623

                            #28
                            from www.eleven-a-side.com (on a related note)

                            Mel Stein, the agent of Irish international star Colin Healy, admits he is shocked by the apparent lack of interest in the player, who becomes a free agent when his contract at Celtic runs out next week.

                            Stein has been canvassing clubs south of the border seeking to find a suitable employer for the Cork lad, but apart from expressions of interest shown Premiership trio Leeds United, Aston Villa and Everton and First Division Sunderland, no firm offer has yet been made for the 23-year-old’s services.

                            And Stein, well-known in football circles, is surprised that no-one has yet come in with an offer for his client.

                            "I’m surprised that only Villa, Everton and Sunderland have been in touch in recent times," said Stein. "I really can’t understand it. Colin is keeping Premiership players out of the Irish team and I can’t believe other clubs are hesitating over a move for him.

                            "I’m waiting on a call from Villa and hopefully we can move things on soon."

                            anyone else surprised by this.
                            Cork City: Making 'Dream Team' seem realistic since 2007.

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                            • R&T Flanders
                              New Signing
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 4

                              #29
                              Smacks of Agents desperation to drum up some interest in his client. Healy would be better off going to a club where he will be guaranteed 30 games a season even if it is in the first division.

                              Kinsella needs to get back in the frame at Villa and unless Joey Gudjonnsen signs there's every chance he will.

                              Hollands move should see him get back to his best, Delap is too injury prone for my liking and Carsley has come full circle from being the villian against Turkey a few years back he looks like he could be the man!!

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                              • John83
                                Coach
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 9082

                                #30
                                Originally posted by R&T Flanders
                                Smacks of Agents desperation to drum up some interest in his client. Healy would be better off going to a club where he will be guaranteed 30 games a season even if it is in the first division.

                                Kinsella needs to get back in the frame at Villa and unless Joey Gudjonnsen signs there's every chance he will.

                                Hollands move should see him get back to his best, Delap is too injury prone for my liking and Carsley has come full circle from being the villian against Turkey a few years back he looks like he could be the man!!

                                Joey Gudjonnsen is apparently not going to be signed by Villa according to Doug Ellis (Villa chairbeing), so Kinsella's got a crack at it next season. Hell, if Batty can get a game under DaveO then surely Mark can.

                                Carsley's surprised me this year - I didn't think he had it in him. I'd like to see him and Healy get a few games together in the middle - they could be a good partnership for a couple of years.
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