Stephen Kenny

[Stuttgart88]

I wouldn't close the door on Chirs Hughton

Interesting. I've been reluctant to consider Hughton but maybe he's the right man at the right time. I still feel he's a bit too "pre-2008" though.

Wilder certainly made his mark in his first season in the PL. The team was clearly really well coached, pressing in packs, transitioning at speed. But what went wrong after that?

[tetsujin1979]

Interesting. I've been reluctant to consider Hughton but maybe he's the right man at the right time. I still feel he's a bit too "pre-2008" though.

Wilder certainly made his mark in his first season in the PL. The team was clearly really well coached, pressing in packs, transitioning at speed. But what went wrong after that?

they had a load of games in that first season that finshed 1-0 or 1-1. The following season they became 1-0 losses, and they were relegated

[Jd2793]

This is 100% correct! Wilder would be perfect and getable i guess

I wouldn't close the door on Chirs Hughton

I had previously suggested ralph hasenhüttl, before Kenny and before he moved to Southampton... I fear he is now out of reach for us

id slam it shut on hughton. hassenhuttl seems like a guy who would annoy more people here than kenny does, if thats possible.

[CraftyToePoke]

This is 100% correct! Wilder would be perfect and getable

Isn't he possibly also just the most recent incarnation of Aidy Boothroyd / Phil Brown / Nigel Worthington / Iain Dowie etc who had a season or two getting away with it at the top level before being figured out and subsequently dropping away to the lesser leagues though ?

[jbyrne]

The plenty season ticket sales is mad. We're rubbish and have been for some time - 6-1 against Germany, 5-1 against Denmark, scraping past Gibraltar and Georgia, now playing awful stuff against Luxembourg, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Qatar, Lithuania and Malta - but the season ticket sales just seem to keep going up and the attendances in general are excellent when compared across Europe. It's weird.

yes, just ignore all the other decent results, qualification for 2016 and near miss qualification for 2018 in the period you refer to.
we hammered qatar 4-0..... what more did you want from that game?
remember the 1-0 against germany since the 1-6 result??

the fans seem to relate to this team much more than a lot of previous Irish teams irrespective of results. throw in the excellent ST value and the likes of hollland and france coming here next year and its all quite understandable really.

[Diggs246]

Isn't he possibly also just the most recent incarnation of Aidy Boothroyd / Phil Brown / Nigel Worthington / Iain Dowie etc who had a season or two getting away with it at the top level before being figured out and subsequently dropping away to the lesser leagues though ?

He did very well in the bundasliga as well though

[CraftyToePoke]

He did very well in the bundasliga as well though

Wilder ? Ok.

[Diggs246]

Wilder ? Ok.

Sorry my bad i thought u were referencing
ralph hasenhüttl

[SkStu]

I'd suggest the quietness on matchdays and in general is down to the subject of this thread and the air of apathy he has brought and the fact that if you criticise him you're an anti kennyite, but it's almost impossible to support him. The result, silence.

I just do not think that is fair. There is a different between healthy debate/disagreement and criticism/silencing and most of what passes here is definitely healthy debate. The only people who get criticised are those who are on the extreme edge of the discussion - the Boomshakalakas, Weldoninhio and PaulO'Sheas of the world. Just loudspeaker "you're all thicks" that add nothing - there has to be a little give and take or constructive ideation rather than what the forum has suffered through from a very loud and destructive minority since SK's appointment - day one, for all intents and purposes.

If there is evidence of others - outside of those three - that have been on the receiving end of unfair or OTT criticism for expressing their opinion against Kenny, i will happily take the above comment back and STFU.

My take, for what its worth - the guts of the pro-Kenny side of things for the last couple of years has been "just give him a bit more time and see, theres a new approach and young players, give him some breathing room" - - and i think most have moved further away from that middle ground in the last 3-5 months. Others havent but they're not being loudspeaker a-holes about it either. Neither are the vast majority of the anti-Kenny side.

[pineapple stu]

I wonder how many options we have for manager really? I know people say "There has to be plenty of people interested" and the likes - but is that really true? The recent appointments - with the exception of Trap - have all been fairly predictable.

Kenny - had done well at 21s manager (we'll ignore the silly way he was appointed at the same time as Mick) and with an exceptional LoI record.
Mick II, our previous manager (and indeed captain).
Martin O'Neill, who had long been mooted (in the same kind of way that Hughton is now).
Trap - Denis O'Brien was in with his millions and wanted a big name, plus Trap was nearly 70 and international football probably suited him.
Stan - well, less said soonest mended there, but he was a former captain.
Kerr - exceptional record at underage and deserved a shot.
Mick I - a previous captain and had a really good club CV with Millwall. Probably wouldn't get him today given the money in England.
Jack - again was looking for something less day-to-day than club management

I don't remember any particularly serious (or interesting) alternatives to those at the time - I can remember names like Paul Jewell, Steve Bruce and so on.

So while it's the FAI's job, not ours, to find attractive candidates, I'm not sure we're entirely awash with them. Maybe someone with LoI experience like Paul Cook? But you know...it's not exactly inspiring.

[osarusan]

Is it really so difficult to imagine someone who could direct the team's attacking patterns a little more capably than Kenny did against Malta? Does that really require a candidate, resume, and a tactical analysis fit for a pro licence? The leaping all over Boomers is a little desperate. Yes, he's gotten tiresome. So have the rest of you.

Spot on.

Posters on here, of all hues, duck questions or therwise fail to back something up all the time. I'm sure I've been guilty of it.

A mod action singling out and forcing a particular poster to answer a paricular queston is absurd.

[SkStu]

I think its time for the shrews fiddle. And a couple of them double fiddles.

[CraftyToePoke]

I don't remember any particularly serious (or interesting) alternatives to those at the time - I can remember names like Paul Jewell, Steve Bruce and so on.

Phillipe Omar Troussier was linked one time, paper talk, honour to be considered he said. Remember those heady days & getting Stan instead ?

Terry Venables / Joe Kinnear in a quick Google round up of the usual suspects which also mentions Jacques Santini who I don't remember being linked with us at the time at all.

[ontheotherhand]

Handy list here. Raymond Domenech was in the mix at one point.

I hope I don't die before I see Troussier finally take the job.

[tetsujin1979]

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