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  • Bielsa´s irish
    Banned
    • Aug 2020
    • 1446

    #1606
    We played good football today, we were better in first half. What worries me is that this game was an Azerbaijan kind of match. We have got no answer when we are down, not a craft football answer we need creative players in the final parcel. First half was 2-0 Armenia is awful. But scored a long range goal again

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    • tetsujin1979
      Coach
      • Nov 2003
      • 23730

      #1607
      Two really bad stats, second one is worse
      All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on mastodon, BlueSky and facebook

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      • John83
        Coach
        • Feb 2003
        • 9082

        #1608
        Originally posted by TrapAPony
        He has had more than enough time in charge and has clearly shown he is not up to it. He doesn't deserve any more chances. Nice fella but his time is beyond up.
        One match ago, you could get mobbed here if you suggested he didn't deserve a contract extension. I didn't buy it then, and if it's only one result later, this is almost as bad as the Luxembourg game.
        You can't spell failure without FAI

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        • BOOMSHAKALAKA
          Banned
          • Oct 2020
          • 685

          #1609
          Originally posted by John83
          One match ago, you could get mobbed here if you suggested he didn't deserve a contract extension. I didn't buy it then, and if it's only one result later, this is almost as bad as the Luxembourg game.
          For some reason, drawing with Belgium B in a friendly was treated as some glorious triumph. I've asked what exactly has Kenny achieved to deserve a contract extension. Lost a play off for the euro's, had an awful first Nations league, got knocked out after 2 games effectively for world cup qualification and now loses to Armenia to set up another miserable Nations league.

          This spoofer is the worst manager we've ever had. Worse than Stan. Let's cut to the chase, if he wasn't a former League of Ireland manager, he would have been hounded out of the job a long time ago. Previous managers were lambasted despite achieving some decent results. It's time for everyone to cop on and face facts, Kenny has to go.

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          • Diggs246
            Seasoned Pro
            • Oct 2016
            • 2709

            #1610
            Originally posted by tetsujin1979
            Two really bad stats, second one is worse
            Why does Stephen get some sort of diplomatic immunity from the media? It tends to be ex international players who call him out

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            • pineapple stu
              Biased against YOUR club
              • Aug 2002
              • 40783

              #1611
              That's an interesting mix of games in that goalless stat.

              Montenegro were only so low because they were a new country. We didn't score in the return either, but they were well above 90th by then.

              I also don't recall the draw in Albania being a particularly bad result. Maybe it was easier to dismiss it as a one-off, though I think the atmosphere that night was fairly intimidating too, which helped Albania.

              We were also seconds away from a 0-0 against Lithuania too, who were 127th in Elo. There's probably other games that'd get added in if you ignored injury time - although can't think of too many off hand.
              Last edited by pineapple stu; 05/06/2022, 8:20 AM.

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              • Eirambler
                International Prospect
                • Apr 2004
                • 5046

                #1612
                I found Dan McDonnell's piece in the independent this morning interesting in terms of what it didn't say. It basically said nothing, it was an article written by a man who didn't want to write an article about what he was writing about.

                If it had been one of our previous managers he'd have been tearing into him.

                But this is what you are dealing with here, a Dundalk fan who covers the LoI week in week out and has a soft spot for Kenny. All objectivity goes out the window.

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                • Bielsa´s irish
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2020
                  • 1446

                  #1613
                  Hire Bielsa asap

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                  • Supreme feet
                    Reserves
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 724

                    #1614
                    I'm willing to concede that Kenny may be out of his depth.

                    However, I don't see a high ceiling for this squad, with or without him. We had four players from League One yesterday (one of whom was actually our biggest goal threat). It's been three years since the Gibraltar games, and we're still seeing Hendrick and Hourihane stinking up the midfield. We're still relying on McClean as an agent of chaos. Duffy is still our main goal threat. Of the lads playing in the Championship and League One, only Knight and maybe Obafemi have any chance of playing regularly at a higher level in the remainder of their careers. Stevens looked like a competition winner yesterday. Coleman is finished. We have talent in the 21s - but looking at the progress of Idah, Parrott, Connolly and Molumby, there's never any guarantee that the likes of Smallbone, Adaramola, Ebosele etc are going to get to the pitch of senior international football as quickly as we'd like.

                    It's going to take a miracle worker, a manager of genuine pedigree and experience, someone who is in touch with the requirements of modern football, a promoter of youth and progressive football, to carry on the positives from the last twelve months, ensure we don't regress to hoofball, and actually make us competitive in the short-to-medium term. Will €550,000 a year get someone like that, when the going market rate is a million for someone like Mick McCarthy?

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                    • Diggs246
                      Seasoned Pro
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 2709

                      #1615
                      Originally posted by Supreme feet
                      I'm willing to concede that Kenny may be out of his depth.

                      However, I don't see a high ceiling for this squad, with or without him. We had four players from League One yesterday (one of whom was actually our biggest goal threat). It's been three years since the Gibraltar games, and we're still seeing Hendrick and Hourihane stinking up the midfield. We're still relying on McClean as an agent of chaos. Duffy is still our main goal threat. Of the lads playing in the Championship and League One, only Knight and maybe Obafemi have any chance of playing regularly at a higher level in the remainder of their careers. Stevens looked like a competition winner yesterday. Coleman is finished. We have talent in the 21s - but looking at the progress of Idah, Parrott, Connolly and Molumby, there's never any guarantee that the likes of Smallbone, Adaramola, Ebosele etc are going to get to the pitch of senior international football as quickly as we'd like.

                      It's going to take a miracle worker, a manager of genuine pedigree and experience, someone who is in touch with the requirements of modern football, a promoter of youth and progressive football, to carry on the positives from the last twelve months, ensure we don't regress to hoofball, and actually make us competitive in the short-to-medium term. Will €550,000 a year get someone like that, when the going market rate is a million for someone like Mick McCarthy?
                      Our league one lads are playing at a higher level then the Armenia league. In fact I'm not sure all their players are full time professionals.

                      Here is the salary chart for reference

                      FIFA World Cup is arguably the biggest sports event in the world. Every footballer’s dream would be to part of a world cup winning squad before they hang their boots. The FIFA World Cup 2024 is scheduled to take place in Qatar from November 21. But do you know how much do the coaches of football World Cup teams earn? The recent report revealed the highest-paid managers as well as all the 32 FIFA World Cup coaches salaries. Only 3 players have won World Cup both as a coach and a player – Mario Zagallo as a player in 1958

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                      • seanfhear
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 5450

                        #1616
                        It might be time for Brian Kerr to limber up.

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                        • tetsujin1979
                          Coach
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 23730

                          #1617
                          He had his chance and he blew it, with a better talented selection available to him than the current squad
                          All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on mastodon, BlueSky and facebook

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                          • Trequartista20
                            First Team
                            • Jul 2020
                            • 1079

                            #1618
                            Technically, Jason Knight was the only League One player named in the 27-man panel.

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                            • third policeman
                              First Team
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 1208

                              #1619
                              Originally posted by tetsujin1979
                              He had his chance and he blew it, with a better talented selection available to him than the current squad
                              There’s always the option of a part-time manager. Barry was coaching us and Chelsea at the same time. There’s no obvious candidate, but if it’s a way of getting quality on a budget. Maybe Michael O’Neill? I was prepared to give Kenny the benefit of the doubt on improved form over the last 12 months, but that result was proper humiliation. He looks like he doesn’t know what he’s doing, sounds like he doesn’t know what he’s doing, snd the results alas confirm it.

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                              • tetsujin1979
                                Coach
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 23730

                                #1620
                                Originally posted by Trequartista20
                                Technically, Jason Knight was the only League One player named in the 27-man panel.
                                All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on mastodon, BlueSky and facebook

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