Martin O'Neill and Roy Keane

[osarusan]

I think one problem is that with Stephen Kenny, when a bad spell came, the players (and fans) would reach the 'this manager hasn't a f**king clue what he is doing' stage earlier than they would with somebody who had had success at a higher level.

[Olé Olé]

I think one problem is that with Stephen Kenny, when a bad spell came, the players (and fans) would reach the 'this manager hasn't a f**king clue what he is doing' stage earlier than they would with somebody who had had success at a higher level.

Similar to Stan.

[Stuttgart88]

The Telegraph article is funny it's by Edwards who is a mate of O'Neill's. Frames the whole thing in his favour, referencing Robbie's retirement and implying that Delaney is using MON as a scapegoat.

I hate that kind of article. "O'Neill who doesn't have the players or a goalscorer....". Any watcher of this team can tell that it has become an incohesive rabble and we get outplayed by well coached teams with similar or worse players.

[passinginterest]

Wouldn't rule out a pay rise, the way Delaney operates.

I can't believe that the FAI would negotiate a contract without non-performance clauses and their consequences. Well, actually, I can, but you know what I mean.

Indo reporting this morning that Steve Walford has stepped down as coach for personal reasons. One less salary to pay off, or a new coach to boost the backroom team? Answers on a postcard, please. https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-37550175.html

Gives the impression Walford has been gone for a while. Possibly a link to the fact the team has looked more shapeless in the last few games?

If O'Neill and Keane are officially gone it's going to be a huge call on the new management team. Personally, as much as I admire Stephen Kenny and his playing style, I didn't think international management would suit him and I don't think it's the right time in his career.

Mick McCarthy is obviously available, but I'm not sure going back is ever a good idea.

I can't see anyone leaving a decent club manager's job and jumping at it, so we might be looking at a younger coach or assistant, somebody who's making a good impression and looking to step up to management for the first time. Maybe a Carsley or someone of that ilk.

Knowing the FAI it'll be a Noel King and Paul Doolin dream team to reward them for their years of loyal service.

[Fixer82]

Feel a bit for Keane. Maurice Setters, Chris Hughton, Ian Evans, never mentioned when people wanted the manager at the time out.
Sadlier mentioning Keane of course, they have history.

Not that I’m suggesting Keane would be more successful but, it’s not his team, he’s assistant manager.

[jbyrne]

O'Neill meeting with the board to discuss future this week according to Newstalk

MON could be gone as early as today

[tetsujin1979]

Am I right in saying this all stems from one report in the Telegraph?

[jbyrne]

Am I right in saying this all stems from one report in the Telegraph?

no, not really

[DeLorean]

The more dramatic reports where it appears he'll be sacked seem to be sourcing The Telegraph - RTÉ, the42.ie, The Examiner, Irish Times.

The Indo (Dan McDonnell) are only quoting MON saying that they'll meet for talks, as is standard practice after every match.

Edit - actually The Indo have a more recent report sourcing The Telegraph too so yeah, it seems to be mainly (if not exclusively) from there.

[DeLorean]

Wow - https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018...&utm_content=A

[backstothewall]

Both gone

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/...pany-with-fai/

[brine3]

So he turned down Stoke then. Okay.

My memory of it was that he wasn't Stoke's first choice.

[Olé Olé]

Both gone

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/...pany-with-fai/

Phew. McCarthy must be a very short price. There are few options. Kenny would be great as far as I'm concerned.

[osarusan]

Troussier surely.

[zero]

had to be done. the euros were great so fair play to MON for that, but the time for change had come.