What does Neil's middle initial stand for anyway? Orenthal? Otis? Surely not Othello.
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I thought of quite a very variations around the same theme, not too sure which was best.
If they were to uses one I think it would have to be just "Alfie Inge Ha Ha Ha", but then there is little clue it is about Roy Keane, but certainly sound like a good book.
I always thought the original title "Paddy Clarke Ha Ha Ha" was very clever, there is something about the "Ha Ha Ha"
which draws the attention, just "Paddy Clarke" sounds rather drab.Comment
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Kind of agree there, I was a bit embarrassed at first especially when I realised I could not change it, but then I grew to quite like it,
the past tense of managed also gave some sense of impending doom!
We still have that 'O' in there though, perhaps an indication of the total number of points that wil be gained under the new regime!!Comment
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Nice challenge coming as we play Italy in a friendly. Hopefully an improvement in performance on our last effort.
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Trap's record against Italy W1 D2 L1.
Even though, by itself, the performance when getting beat by Euro finalists Italy wasn't a disaster, it should be no problem for O'Neill to do better, it's understood isn't it? We don't even have to hope for a better performance.
And should we get Italy in the Euro qualifiers, it should be no problem for O'Neill to improve on our 2 draws gained under Trap, or was it 2 wins lost?Comment
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Martin O'Neill could lose two of those games against Italy and still have a better competitive record than Trap. Never really understood the infatuation with draws in the Trapattoni regime. Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face.Comment
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Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.Comment
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I think Trap's tenure can be marked by more than just hard results though. One qualification and a near miss was pretty good, as was the remarkable away record and solid record against tricky lower seeds.
But unlike Owls a Fan I can't ignore the way he went about the job. I had lunch with a well-placed guy on Tuesday and he said he has heard inside accounts of just how much Trap took the proverbial in terms of lack of effort. He did say he thought O'Neill is lazy too though!
And while I'm not saying I'll only accept stylish football under O'Neill but I absolutely don't want any more being afraid of the ball and lack of trust towards anyone who can actually use the ball. Even if Trap had qualified last time out I'd have wanted him gone as I'd got so sick of the teams he picked and the way he played.Comment
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A top 2 finish is all that required, O'Neill has it much easier to qualify directly and from a second seed position in the draw.
We can expect 23 to 25 points at a minimum in a 6 team group, considering how much of a numbskull Trap was supposed to be with useless draws.
Getting to the dizzy heights of a play-off for WC 2018 but falling to a seeded team would be regarded as a huge failure by fans and surely MON's time would be up in that circumstance?Comment
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Nobody said draws were useless, geysir. You are just seeing things that aren't there.Last edited by TheOneWhoKnocks; 30/01/2014, 9:34 PM.Comment
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What did you mean by 'infatuation with draws'? You may not have meant they were useless, but you didn't seem to value them much either. I'm confused Ted.Comment
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By infatuation with draws, I mean it was almost as if Trapattoni wanted to draw some matches we were in a position to win. Too many examples to mention. A win and a loss is worth more than two draws. Is a draw a point gained or two points lost?
At first it was sad how many times we were winning a game and playing well only to change tact and inevitably concede an equaliser, then it became depressing and finally by the Austria game in Dublin it became infuriating and he should have been sacked there and then.
No faith in the players whatsoever. Stopping short of calling them crap.
The reason we had so many what ifs is not because of any lack of effort or quality from the players. It's because of Trapattoni's neuroses. And people can make excuses about a supposed lack of talent or how small a country we are. It won't change my opinion. Sick and tired of seeing teams like Scotland and Northern Ireland outplaying teams like France, Italy, Spain and Sweden yet we have this blase attitude towards a frankly embarrassing competitive record against teams with any degree of quality.
I sincerely hope he is done managing at this level and no other country or club has to deal with his laziness and crotchetinessComment
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