Martin O'Neill and Roy Keane

[ArdeeBhoy]

always involving villa.
there is no way he can combine both roles successfully.

Ha ha, are you for real?
No fan of RMK but even he will do scouting trips/work as part of his other role, so can't do any worse than he was previously...

[tricky_colour]

always involving villa.
there is no way he can combine both roles successfully.

I don't see why not really I think it might work quite well.

[jbyrne]

E.G.
Friday 7:45pm Derby County play in the Championship. Keane attends and takes notes on Hendrick, Sammon, etc.
Saturday 3pm Villa play Hull. While watching on his own Villa team, Keane gets to see Long, Brady, etc in action.

he didn't like being away from the Irish camp the night before the turkey game due to his ITV commitments so he is unlikely to be attending other matches the night before a villa match.

so you think his mind will be on how the hull Irish perform with Ireland in mind while sitting on the villa bench?? dream on

[Supreme feet]

he didn't like being away from the Irish camp the night before the turkey game due to his ITV commitments so he is unlikely to be attending other matches the night before a villa match.

so you think his mind will be on how the hull Irish perform with Ireland in mind while sitting on the villa bench?? dream on

Chris Hughton was assistant at Spurs while he was Kerr's assistant for Ireland, if memory serves me right. There was no issue or criticism of him combining the roles then.

[Stuttgart88]

And Gary Neville had another job while being assistant for England. Oh, wait...

I'm sitting on the fence here. I think it can have positives especially if it's a help to the large young Irish contingent at Villa but it also lessens his ability to go scouting, but then again, O'Neill gas others to help him there.

He'll still be free during the international window which is when he has his main responsibility.

The biggest negative is that it'll still be such a distraction for an Irish media always on the hunt for ways to undermine the national team.

[Yard of Pace]

The biggest negative is that it'll still be such a distraction for an Irish media always on the hunt for ways to undermine the national team.

Agreed. But if it wasn't this it'd be something else anyway.

[tricky_colour]

The less time a manager has to meddle the better, Roy should take on a few more jobs.

[Razors left peg]

When this was brought up first months ago I thought it was ridiculous and impossible for him to do both jobs, but then I remembered that no one batted an eyelid when Hughton did the same thing under Kerr.

Hes obviously got a lot of spare time on his hands so I think fair play to him for wanted to keep learning with a view to getting back into management at some stage, hopefully he'll be a better manager for it in future.

The only negative I can see really is that it is Villa. The club is up for sale and Lambert surely has to be on borrowed time there so I can see an early in the season sacking leading to Keane being linked with the manager job very soon, leading to another media sh1t storm!

[BonnieShels]

Have no idea why people think this is such a big deal.

We complained that he was overshadowing the team and that he was "only" the asst manager. Now he shouldn't take this role because he IS the asst manager.

This can only be good for Ireland. There is no bad side to this, unless you REALLY want to see one.

[jbyrne]

Have no idea why people think this is such a big deal.

We complained that he was overshadowing the team and that he was "only" the asst manager. Now he shouldn't take this role because he IS the asst manager.

This can only be good for Ireland. There is no bad side to this, unless you REALLY want to see one.

i would imagine that an assistant managers role is very time consuming at an EPL club. how can our national assistant manager having much less time to spend on that role possibly be seen as a positive versus our assistant manager concentrating on the national position full time?

[gastric]

Jack Grealish will only play for us now. Imagine explaining any other decision to Roy!

[geysir]

I don't see it as a big deal that Keane has another job but as I have said from the beginning, he is being way overpaid to be a part time assistant manager for a modest international set up, probably by a factor of 3. He would be fortunate to get a similar salary, for a much more demanding full time job to an income rich epl club like Villa.

[Jovial Rambler]

This will not cause any problem for us.

[OwlsFan]

I don't see it as a big deal that Keane has another job but as I have said from the beginning, he is being way overpaid to be a part time assistant manager for a modest international set up, probably by a factor of 3. He would be fortunate to get a similar salary, for a much more demanding full time job to an income rich epl club like Villa.

Wasn't he supposed to spend a lot of time scouting ? How will he have time for this when he is attending Villa games as assistant-manager ?

[BonnieShels]

i would imagine that an assistant managers role is very time consuming at an EPL club. how can our national assistant manager having much less time to spend on that role possibly be seen as a positive versus our assistant manager concentrating on the national position full time?

The assistant manager's role is to assist the manager as he sees fit. None of us know how the Villa set up works and what he will do. I can't see how this can be a bad thing.

The Assistant manager's role at International level is beyond part-time. Sure Maurice Setters could do it.