Martin O'Neill and Roy Keane

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  • geysir
    Capped Player
    • Apr 2005
    • 15392

    #2521
    Originally posted by DeLorean
    For sure. Nottingham Post speculating further - https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport...eaking-3030966
    I'm glad the article refers to him as the "Northern Irishman".

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    • geysir
      Capped Player
      • Apr 2005
      • 15392

      #2522
      Originally posted by Kingdom
      Sabri Lamouchi was one of my favourite all-time players for Parma, even though he was probably past his peak when signed despite being relatively unknown this side of the world I reckon. He was a really really smooth player, and if he coaches like he played, then Forest are going to see some very fluid football.
      You know too much

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      • DeLorean
        Capped Player
        • Jun 2008
        • 10894

        #2523
        I think it's safe to say Kingdom didn't write his Wikipedia page! - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabri_Lamouchi

        He then went on to join Monaco, who he helped to the Ligue 1 title in 2000, before being snapped up by Parma of Italy. Even though he had an average season, he was again on the move this time to Italian giants Internazionale. He also struggled there, and failed to win a place in the team.

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        • geysir
          Capped Player
          • Apr 2005
          • 15392

          #2524
          It's also safe to say Nottm Post didn't write his wiki page either.

          'But who is Lamouchi?
          French international : During his playing days, the midfielder turned out for a host of star studded clubs including Marseille, Parma and Inter Milan.
          He was, however, at the peak of his powers during his time at Monaco, during which time he picked up 12 caps for his native France, scoring once.'

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          • Fixer82
            Seasoned Pro
            • Nov 2009
            • 3449

            #2525
            A lot of people delighted that O’Neill has failed at Forest it seems.
            The last year with ROI was a disaster but when I think of O’Neill’s era for Ireland I think of O’Shea against Germany, Long against Germany, Brady scoring in the fog, Walters sending us to the Euros in the second leg, Sweden and Italy in the Euros, putting it up to a fresher France in the Euros who should’ve won that competition and went on to win the World Cup in style.
            And of course that famous 7-0 win against Gibraltar!!!
            Folding my way into the big money!!!

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            • Kingdom
              International Prospect
              • Sep 2004
              • 5386

              #2526
              Originally posted by geysir
              You know too much
              In true half-glass empty form, I'm going to take that as both sarcasm, an insult and a threat. Thankfully I'll claim diplomatic immunity for any kneecappings.
              If I question Liam Scales ability to play intl football, refer me to this signature & his peformance at home at lb vs Port on Nov 13 2025.
              Signed
              Kingdom.

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              • bennocelt
                International Prospect
                • Jul 2006
                • 5828

                #2527
                Originally posted by Fixer82
                A lot of people delighted that O’Neill has failed at Forest it seems.
                The last year with ROI was a disaster but when I think of O’Neill’s era for Ireland I think of O’Shea against Germany, Long against Germany, Brady scoring in the fog, Walters sending us to the Euros in the second leg, Sweden and Italy in the Euros, putting it up to a fresher France in the Euros who should’ve won that competition and went on to win the World Cup in style.
                And of course that famous 7-0 win against Gibraltar!!!

                Really?

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                • Diggs246
                  Seasoned Pro
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 2709

                  #2528
                  Originally posted by bennocelt
                  Really?
                  You can be a dick if your winning, but if your a dick and your losing then your in serious hot water

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                  • geysir
                    Capped Player
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 15392

                    #2529
                    Originally posted by Fixer82
                    A lot of people delighted that O’Neill has failed at Forest it seems.
                    The last year with ROI was a disaster but when I think of O’Neill’s era for Ireland I think of O’Shea against Germany, Long against Germany, Brady scoring in the fog, Walters sending us to the Euros in the second leg, Sweden and Italy in the Euros, putting it up to a fresher France in the Euros who should’ve won that competition and went on to win the World Cup in style.
                    And of course that famous 7-0 win against Gibraltar!!!
                    Where do you see the delight? Don't mistake delight for expectation of the inevitable. It was a bad expensive move by Nottm Forest to appoint the duo, this was flagged from the off.
                    And MON should have stood up for and supported Arter over and above the interests of bootboy Keane, those type of things matter a lot to a team.
                    Co

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                    • Fixer82
                      Seasoned Pro
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 3449

                      #2530
                      Originally posted by geysir
                      Where do you see the delight? Don't mistake delight for expectation of the inevitable. It was a bad expensive move by Nottm Forest to appoint the duo, this was flagged from the off.
                      And MON should have stood up for and supported Arter over and above the interests of bootboy Keane, those type of things matter a lot to a team.
                      Co
                      Perhaps not as much here as on The 42 and elsewhere. My real point was that I have great memories from O'Neill's era and I thank him and his team for that, as much as it fell apart in the last year.
                      Folding my way into the big money!!!

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                      • DeLorean
                        Capped Player
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 10894

                        #2531
                        Originally posted by geysir
                        Where do you see the delight? Don't mistake delight for expectation of the inevitable.
                        Oh there was delight, it may have been invisible to the naked foot.ie eye, but it was there in abundance. I'm with Fixer though generally, despite the last year or so being a real low and MON being a major part of that. He still oversaw some of our best times, which don't come around very often.

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                        • OMTY
                          Youth Team
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 116

                          #2532
                          Some interesting tidbits on O'Neill's management style from an article on the 08/09 Villa season on The Athletic.

                          Before each game, Martin O’Neill would walk into the Aston Villa dressing room and stare intently at his matchday notes.
                          The players already knew what was coming and would start sniggering and laughing between themselves, hoping not to catch the manager’s eye. “Same team, same subs” O’Neill would say with conviction, removing any need for holding what was in his hand with those four words that become synonymous with that season.
                          “It became a running joke between the lads,” laughs Steve Sidwell when discussing with The Athletic the 2008-09 season where Villa missed out on the chance to rock the top order in the Premier League. “We were actually going to buy a racehorse, put on Villa’s colours and call it ‘same team same subs’.”
                          O’Neill, in the words of his former Villa colleagues, was a “creature of habit”. He had a core group of around 13 first-team favourites and felt there was no need to rotate a team when it was performing well and winning, which at Villa was the case for a large chunk of that particular season.
                          Tactically, there wasn’t much attention to detail and training wasn’t always as high and intense as it would have been under other managers. Set-piece practice rarely existed and instead it was “let Martin Laursen jump up and win every header”. There wouldn’t be much game-to-game variation either, as Davies explains: “If there was a plan, it was our better players win us the game, we never had clear tactical guidance. It was: read the names from the team sheet, go out and win the game. Our only alternative was, instead of using all the players, give it to Ash (Young)!


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                          • seanfhear
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 5452

                            #2533
                            Originally posted by OMTY
                            Some interesting tidbits on O'Neill's management style from an article on the 08/09 Villa season on The Athletic.
                            Surprising the North are not looking at him. Sure Roy would be great up there if things went wrong with a gang of Loyalists out for....... ! !

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                            • Fixer82
                              Seasoned Pro
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 3449

                              #2534
                              Originally posted by geysir
                              I'm glad the article refers to him as the "Northern Irishman".
                              Why???
                              Folding my way into the big money!!!

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                              • DeLorean
                                Capped Player
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 10894

                                #2535
                                Originally posted by OMTY
                                Some interesting tidbits on O'Neill's management style from an article on the 08/09 Villa season on The Athletic.
                                For all the mocking, he was easily Villa's best manager of the last 10-15 years and, let's face it, ours too. It's not saying a lot, but it is saying something.

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