Martin O'Neill and Roy Keane

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  • Fixer82
    Seasoned Pro
    • Nov 2009
    • 3449

    #2341
    Just referring to the David Connolly thread, if Connolly was as good a finisher as Robbie he would’ve been lethal.
    Connolly’s link up play was very good and he was probably more of a team player.

    Robbie was the ultimate poacher
    Folding my way into the big money!!!

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    • Razors left peg
      International Prospect
      • Mar 2008
      • 6292

      #2342
      Originally posted by Kingdom
      Why? What has he to gain from milling around the backwaters of league 1 and 2 at his age, after all he's achieved with Dundalk at home and in Europe. To be told by mercenary pros who haven't an ounce of technical ability to do one when he has to drop them. to hell with that. If Kenny wanted a job at a European ambitious club in a mid-tier European league, and got an agent to spread the word, he'd have his pick. Guaranteed.
      That or the 21s gig, and the way it's set up with a limited enough playing pool, for an established manager like him, I don't believe the 21s is the right step,
      I dont have a good reason to be honest. I just want to see him have success anywhere outside of the LOI whether its in Britain or in Europe as you suggested.

      Hes still a young manager and I just think the lack of success in Scotland when he went there goes against him. I guess I just want to see him do well in any different environment to his comfort zone.

      Its the same argument against picking a player directly from the LOI and putting them straight into the national team. We always want to see them play against better opposition on a regular basis.
      Its really not that complicated!!!

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      • sidewayspasser
        Reserves
        • Nov 2016
        • 915

        #2343
        True. But even though the problems on the pitch are different, both have in a similar way fallen short of expectations as of late, but still remain in charge as it seems.

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        • Kingdom
          International Prospect
          • Sep 2004
          • 5386

          #2344
          Razor just to.say that comes across worse from me than I meant it. Not having a go as such.
          If I question Liam Scales ability to play intl football, refer me to this signature & his peformance at home at lb vs Port on Nov 13 2025.
          Signed
          Kingdom.

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          • DeLorean
            Capped Player
            • Jun 2008
            • 10894

            #2345
            Originally posted by Kingdom
            I've seen some crazy suggestions about Troy Parrott recently. I'm not sure if many have watched him, but he's not a striker. He's an attacker, but not a 9.
            Interesting. I haven't seen him play or made any suggestions, but I totally assumed he's a number nine.

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            • Bungle
              Reserves
              • Jan 2006
              • 902

              #2346
              It just gets worse and worse under these two. The sad thing is that 2020 may be the only chance we get to be a host nation and yet we look as poor as i've ever seen us. While we are mediocre on paper, the north had about 70% of the ball against us and we hung in for a draw last night. We are good enough to play some type of football as opposed to looking like Gibraltar in each and every game, regardless of the opposition.

              If i didn't have such belief in our young players coming through, i'd be of the belief that they are doing long term damage to the game here. However, i genuinely believe by about euro 2024, we could have a very competitive team. I got talking to a Dutch scout at the euro u17s and he reckons ireland is looking like a top eight to ten european nation at the 15-18 age group and noted how good our underage teams play compared to our seniors😀

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              • brine3
                First Team
                • Jul 2004
                • 1439

                #2347
                - Both were offered contract extensions when timing was questionable (MON before the outcome of the World Cup qualifying campaign was clear, Löw a few weeks before the World Cup proper)
                - Both failed spectacularly shortly afterwards (MON getting hammered by Denmark in the Playoffs, Löw exiting the World Cup bottom of their group)
                It was much worse than that I'm afraid.

                1. He was offered a contract extension by the idiots at the FAI after we were hammered by Denmark.

                2. He refused to sign straight away. Went away to think about it for a while.

                3. Applied for vacant club jobs in England but nobody wanted him.

                4. Came back to FAI and asked for his old job back. FAI said, "will two million a year do?"

                John Delaney. Absolute genius.

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                • centre mid
                  Seasoned Pro
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 2965

                  #2348
                  O'Neill meeting with the board to discuss future this week according to Newstalk
                  "I'm just a chilled out entertainer"

                  Blog

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                  • Olé Olé
                    International Prospect
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 5475

                    #2349
                    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...drawing-close/

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                    • Cathalsmart
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 241

                      #2350
                      This is the smartest thing John Delaney has ever done, well done!

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                      • DeLorean
                        Capped Player
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 10894

                        #2351
                        Originally posted by brine3
                        3. Applied for vacant club jobs in England but nobody wanted him.
                        He turned down Stoke, didn't he? What vacant jobs did he apply for?

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                        • Eminence Grise
                          Seasoned Pro
                          • May 2010
                          • 2825

                          #2352
                          Originally posted by centre mid
                          O'Neill meeting with the board to discuss future this week according to Newstalk
                          Wouldn't rule out a pay rise, the way Delaney operates.

                          I can't believe that the FAI would negotiate a contract without non-performance clauses and their consequences. Well, actually, I can, but you know what I mean.

                          Indo reporting this morning that Steve Walford has stepped down as coach for personal reasons. One less salary to pay off, or a new coach to boost the backroom team? Answers on a postcard, please. https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-37550175.html
                          Hello, hello? What's going on? What's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here!
                          - E Tattsyrup.

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                          • Cathalsmart
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2017
                            • 241

                            #2353
                            Originally posted by DeLorean
                            He turned down Stoke, didn't he? What vacant jobs did he apply for?
                            Because the offer was one year plus he probably knew he would get sacked quickly enough and then have nothing.

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                            • Olé Olé
                              International Prospect
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 5475

                              #2354
                              The Telegraph article is funny it's by Edwards who is a mate of O'Neill's. Frames the whole thing in his favour, referencing Robbie's retirement and implying that Delaney is using MON as a scapegoat.

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                              • DeLorean
                                Capped Player
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 10894

                                #2355
                                Originally posted by Cathalsmart
                                Because the offer was one year plus he probably knew he would get sacked quickly enough and then have nothing.
                                So he turned down Stoke then. Okay.

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