James McClean M Wrexham b.1989

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  • tetsujin1979
    Coach
    • Nov 2003
    • 23730

    #3586
    Hat trick of assists for McClean today, and another for Eoghan O'Connell, as Wrexham are promoted after beating Forest Green 6-0
    All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on mastodon, BlueSky and facebook

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    • JR89
      First Team
      • Sep 2021
      • 2406

      #3587
      Has said he'll come out of retirement if the next manager wants him to and that the decision to retire was because Kenny was disrespectful towards him after joining Wrexham.

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      • Grafter
        Reserves
        • Sep 2012
        • 371

        #3588
        Originally posted by JR89
        Has said he'll come out of retirement if the next manager wants him to and that the decision to retire was because Kenny was disrespectful towards him after joining Wrexham.
        He will not go quietly into the night will he..

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        • EalingGreen
          Seasoned Pro
          • Aug 2006
          • 3719

          #3589
          Originally posted by Grafter
          He will not go quietly into the night will he..
          You can say that again...

          Wrexham's James McClean says he makes no apology for singing an anti-monarchy song as the club celebrated promotion.

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          • seanfhear
            Banned
            • Dec 2007
            • 5452

            #3590
            Originally posted by JR89
            Has said he'll come out of retirement if the next manager wants him to and that the decision to retire was because Kenny was disrespectful towards him after joining Wrexham.
            In fairness to James ~ ~ Kenny didn't really have that many better options ( for that position ) ~ ~ So, why push James out before the campaign was ended ? !

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            • seanfhear
              Banned
              • Dec 2007
              • 5452

              #3591
              Originally posted by EalingGreen
              It's not compulsory to, love / even like, the King / Monarchy ~ Is it ? !

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              • CSAD
                Banned
                • Sep 2020
                • 1016

                #3592
                Originally posted by seanfhear
                In fairness to James ~ ~ Kenny didn't really have that many better options ( for that position ) ~ ~ So, why push James out before the campaign was ended ? !
                Ireland had 3 LB's at least in their u21 squad that were playing at a higher level regularly and more deserving of a call up than McClean. And that's before we even consider players outside the u21s who are also better.

                He's playing in league 2 when everyone else in the squad is at the very least a championship player...he can have no complaints.

                This is why I think it's a joke he got a send off and after his comments I really wished we hadn't wasted that fixture on such a self entitled player.

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                • SkStu
                  Capped Player
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 14863

                  #3593
                  Originally posted by seanfhear
                  It's not compulsory to, love / even like, the King / Monarchy ~ Is it ? !
                  Off with your head! / kneecaps! [delete as appropriate]
                  I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.

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                  • seanfhear
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 5452

                    #3594
                    Originally posted by CSAD
                    Ireland had 3 LB's at least in their u21 squad that were playing at a higher level regularly and more deserving of a call up than McClean. And that's before we even consider players outside the u21s who are also better.

                    He's playing in league 2 when everyone else in the squad is at the very least a championship player...he can have no complaints.

                    This is why I think it's a joke he got a send off and after his comments I really wished we hadn't wasted that fixture on such a self entitled player.
                    It's a matter of opinion but I don't think that Kenny treated James McClean that well in the end.

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                    • CSAD
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2020
                      • 1016

                      #3595
                      Originally posted by seanfhear
                      It's a matter of opinion but I don't think that Kenny treated James McClean that well in the end.
                      He got treated better than he deserved. Most league 2 players wouldnt be within an asses roar of a call up yet McClean got numerous caps and a send off game, he should be grateful he got what he got in the end.

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                      • seanfhear
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 5452

                        #3596
                        Originally posted by CSAD
                        He got treated better than he deserved. Most league 2 players wouldnt be within an asses roar of a call up yet McClean got numerous caps and a send off game, he should be grateful he got what he got in the end.
                        I am not overly impressed with your ( or Kenny's ) loyalty to a player that always gave his best / always turned up, if at all possible / which was pretty much always / always showed Kenny a lot of respect before Kenny didn't handle the parting of ways well ~ ~ It would not be unusual for a manager to finish a campaign with pretty much the same players that went through a campaign unless some one pretty exceptional turned up / or at least a marked improvement ~ ~ Kenny did not handle the end of James McClean's Ireland playing career well ~ ~ Then, Kenny did Not handle a lot of things well, while he was the Ireland manager ~ ~ This is just another mess-up by Kenny ~ One of very very many.

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                        • Olé Olé
                          International Prospect
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 5475

                          #3597
                          Originally posted by EalingGreen
                          Big fan of McClean but I always disliked the song in that glorifies his hatred for something (the monarchy) rather than glorifying him for his love for something (his country).

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                          • Eirambler
                            International Prospect
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 5046

                            #3598
                            If we had any decent left backs he'd have been gone a lot sooner. International callups aren't an entitlement, the likes of him and Shane Long would do well to remember that.

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                            • elatedscum
                              Seasoned Pro
                              • Feb 2019
                              • 2640

                              #3599
                              I thought him not getting an october call up was weird. It was a bit telegraphed in that Kenny justified his selection in September by saying that by only playing two weeks in League 2, that his level wouldn't drop much and there was an implication that he was a doubt for future squads. But we basically just had one left sided player in Manning, as long as you consider Scales a centre-half, which is where he played against Greece. And then the comments Kenny made, which I think were probably then but could have been November. They were basically 'McClean is such a good trainer and so 100% that when you see him in training, you end up picking him', the inference being that it was better not to risk picking him in a squad for fear that he might convince you to play him.

                              I really don't think there were any viable alternatives. Sure Sean Roughan was playing at a higher level in League 1, but he's nowhere near ready for senior international football. He's just not. Same is true of Tayo and Jay Furlong - nowhere near ready at all. McClean had offers from championship clubs, so that's probably closer to his true level. You had Manning who was still adapting to international football and you had Brady and Stevens who were constantly injured, along with O'Dowda, who's defensively probably too much of a liability. All the 98/99 crop of left backs from the 21s basically hadn't made it to the level required: Trev Clarke, Darragh Leahy, Tyreke Wilson, Tom O'Connor. The 2000/01 crop was basically Joel Bagan who isn't ready (and is playing second division in Belgium) and Andy Lyons who wasn't playing at League 1.

                              So yeah... I still don't see the alternatives, unless you're gonna move Danny McNamara or Jon Gallagher across to that side, which they can both do. Not entirely sure either are good enough, but they're currently a mile ahead of Bagan, Roughan etc.

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                              • JR89
                                First Team
                                • Sep 2021
                                • 2406

                                #3600
                                What I don't get is he says he decided to retire to go out on his terms given Kenny's treatment of him. That he'll come out of retirement if the next manager wants him to.

                                Every man and his dog knew Kenny was out the door after November so why retire when it was obvious that Kenny was basically out the door.

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