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  • geysir
    Capped Player
    • Apr 2005
    • 15392

    #346
    I see Toshack has become the manager of Macedonia who just happen to be in Wales' group.
    Could be a trend - hire a manager who has a few axes in his back pocket and itching to use them.

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    • DannyInvincible
      Capped Player
      • Sep 2006
      • 11521

      #347
      More importantly, how might it influence Macedonia's remaining fixtures in our current Euro 2012 qualification group? They play Russia in Moscow on the 2nd of September and Slovakia at home in the last round of games.
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      • zero
        First Team
        • May 2002
        • 1061

        #348
        i was hoping they (the macedonians) might do us a favour. not much chance of that now.

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        • Sullivinho
          First Team
          • May 2010
          • 1755

          #349
          Originally posted by DannyInvincible
          More importantly, how might it influence Macedonia's remaining fixtures in our current Euro 2012 qualification group? They play Russia in Moscow on the 2nd of September and Slovakia at home in the last round of games.
          I was hoping they'd get someone in who might provoke some early good performances but I'm not sure how inspirational they'll find Toshack. I wouldn't be surprised if they took something off Slovakia at home though, owing more to their home advantage and Slovakia's blowing hot and cold more than the manager.

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          • Cymro
            Reserves
            • Mar 2007
            • 892

            #350
            If Toshack's Wales is anything to go by, Macedonia will now lose most of their matches by 1 goal despite having 55%+ of the the possession as a matter of routine, whilst never failing to take maximum points from the smaller teams. But Macedonia have better strikers than us, so maybe it'll be different for him there.

            Under Toshack we played Slovakia twice with results of 1-5 and 5-2. So anything could happen there.
            "Life is like a hair on a toilet seat. Sooner or later you are bound to get pi$$ed off."

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            • ifk101
              Seasoned Pro
              • May 2003
              • 3961

              #351
              Originally posted by cfdh_edmundo

              Sweden really aren't all that good. They are well organised and can be a physical threat. But they have big weaknesses at the back, their best defenders are past it Mellburg (33) Majsterovic and Petter Hanson (both 34), their only reliable defender with a bit of pace is the lad at Genoa Grandquist. In midfield they have a lot of average ball winners, but a lack of creativity. Wilhelmsonn looked like a promising player but has utterly stagnated since he moved to the Middle East, Kallestrom is ok but not massivly creative, he's no Johnas Turn he's a bit of a poor man's Hackan Mild. There is a lot of hype about Albin Ekdal, but he's yet to play for them and he hasnt set the world alight in a very mundane Juventus side. They do have Ibrahimovic upfront and Elmander too, but these are both immobile strikers and if we can cut of the creativity they shouldnt be too much of a handfull, they've no real pace which is a good thing looking at our back line. I'd be more worried about Rosenburg or Markus Burg running at our center backs, but they've faced pacier attackers in the past and shut them out. We should be beating the Swedes at home and aiming for a draw away. They were lucky to get to Euro 2008, getting a 3-0 default in Copenhagen against the Danes after a mad home fan struck the ref, which caused the game to be abandoned. If the Danes had won that they would have finished ahead of Sweden and made it to Euro 2008. Northern Ireland beat the Swedes 2-1 in Windsor Park and drew 1-1 away. In WC2010 qualification they were beaten home and away by the Danes 1-0 home and away, drew 0-0 with Portugal home and away and drew 0-0 in Albania. People are saying their current form (in Euro2012s) good, to an extend that's true, but theyve yet to face their hardest away games (aside from in Holland where they went down 4-1), their remaining games are Hungary away, Finland away, Holland at home and San Marino away, I'll be surprised if they get more than 4-5 points from those.
              Petter Hansson hasn't played international football in a while - not sure if he is injured or retired from international duty.
              Andreas Granqvist didn't make the grade at Wigan.
              Mellberg and Majstorovic are the first choice centre halves.
              Albin Ekdal isn't really on the international radar yet. Doubtful if he'll get much game time with Juventus this season.
              Hasn't really happened for Källström at international level. Sweden's creative force would be Anders Svensson (ex Southampton).
              Sebastian Larsson and Elmander would be names familiar to those that follow the British leagues.

              Individually Sweden aren't great. Dodgy goalie, full backs aren't great, centre half pairing are well into their thirties. Midfield has a couple of good players but no world beaters. Probably Sweden are strongest up front where they have plenty of options.

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              • Closed Account 2
                Closed Account
                • Jun 2004
                • 2870

                #352
                Was Hannson not on the bench for that 4-1 defeat in Holland ? I thought I saw him on the bench when I watched the game...

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                • ifk101
                  Seasoned Pro
                  • May 2003
                  • 3961

                  #353
                  Originally posted by cfdh_edmundo
                  Was Hannson not on the bench for that 4-1 defeat in Holland ? I thought I saw him on the bench when I watched the game...
                  Yes you are correct. He was brought into the squad as they were short of defensive cover for that game. Don't think he has been included in any squad since and hasn't played a game in the last few years. Jonas Olsson (West Brom) and Granqvist would certainly be ahead of him in the pecking order.

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                  • eekers
                    Reserves
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 656

                    #354
                    So much for Sweden. Lost to Hungary the last day and now its taken them 65mins to score against San Marino.

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                    • ArdeeBhoy
                      International Prospect
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 6237

                      #355
                      Yes, but we'll get humped by Deutschland....

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                      • the bear
                        Reserves
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 757

                        #356
                        Originally posted by ArdeeBhoy
                        Not at all.

                        Just think them, Turkey, the Kazaks and Armenia/Azerbaijan should all play in Asia, as you have to draw a line somewhere geographically.
                        The fact that some of them are flawed is just incidental.
                        i would of thought they would prefer to play in asia as they would be much more likely to ever qualify

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                        • ArdeeBhoy
                          International Prospect
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 6237

                          #357
                          Well, exactly. More fool them.

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                          • Charlie Darwin
                            Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months.
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 18576

                            #358
                            Originally posted by ArdeeBhoy
                            Not at all.

                            Just think them, Turkey, the Kazaks and Armenia/Azerbaijan should all play in Asia, as you have to draw a line somewhere geographically.
                            The fact that some of them are flawed is just incidental.
                            I think you'll find thee is a line drawn right down the middle of Istanbul.

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                            • Closed Account 2
                              Closed Account
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 2870

                              #359
                              Originally posted by eekers
                              So much for Sweden. Lost to Hungary the last day and now its taken them 65mins to score against San Marino.
                              They are no great shakes at all. I would fear the Austrians as much as the Swedes and Alma-Alta could be as difficult away as Stockholm.

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                              • ArdeeBhoy
                                International Prospect
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 6237

                                #360
                                Originally posted by Charlie Darwin
                                I think you'll find thee is a line drawn right down the middle of Istanbul.
                                Which would exclude all those four for starters....

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