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  • seanfhear
    Banned
    • Dec 2007
    • 5452

    #7591
    Originally posted by Olé Olé
    Looks like the North are going with Tommy Wright as their new manager. After Michael O'Neill created a more welcoming environment for those of Catholic/Nationalist backgrounds, it will be interesting to see if UDR-supporter Wright can keep up that work: https://twitter.com/ChuckReboots/sta...191066112?s=19
    Very controversial choice. Why would any Catholic / Nationalist / Republican would want to play for him ?

    Especially when they have an Alternative.

    Will the IFA really de daft enough to give that fella the job ? ? ?

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    • Olé Olé
      International Prospect
      • Sep 2011
      • 5475

      #7592
      Former Newcastle player could be set for Northern Ireland job https://the42.ie/5090424

      Subsequent to the 42 posting this I have read that his leaving St. Johnstone was a result of a disagreement with the board and less to do with the NI job. The Times reckon Steve Robinson and Ian Baraclough are ahead of him in the reckoning.

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      • EalingGreen
        Seasoned Pro
        • Aug 2006
        • 3719

        #7593
        Originally posted by seanfhear
        Very controversial choice. Why would any Catholic / Nationalist / Republican would want to play for him ?
        Why don't you ask eg Joe Shaughnessy, Graham Cummings, David McMillan, Patrick Cregg or Tim Clancy? (Those being the ROI players he signed for St.Johnstone)

        Or Alan Maybury, who he took on as Assistant Coach a couple of years back.

        Or the dozens of CNR players he coached/managed previously eg at Limavady, Ballymena and Distillery, or with NI's under-age teams?

        Or if those are too far from your neck of the woods, you could ask any of the players he coached at Shamrock Rovers.

        You know, when he was appointed by his good friend and former teammate, Michael O'Neill...


        [Btw, you don't need to worry, this is just a fleeting visit. In these testing times, we all have to take out football fix where we can get it. ]

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        • seanfhear
          Banned
          • Dec 2007
          • 5452

          #7594
          Originally posted by EalingGreen
          Why don't you ask eg Joe Shaughnessy, Graham Cummings, David McMillan, Patrick Cregg or Tim Clancy? (Those being the ROI players he signed for St.Johnstone)

          Or Alan Maybury, who he took on as Assistant Coach a couple of years back.

          Or the dozens of CNR players he coached/managed previously eg at Limavady, Ballymena and Distillery, or with NI's under-age teams?

          Or if those are too far from your neck of the woods, you could ask any of the players he coached at Shamrock Rovers.

          You know, when he was appointed by his good friend and former teammate, Michael O'Neill...


          [Btw, you don't need to worry, this is just a fleeting visit. In these testing times, we all have to take out football fix where we can get it. ]
          Thats not the same as playing for Northern Ireland with him as manager , Not by a Long Shot ! ! !

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          • EalingGreen
            Seasoned Pro
            • Aug 2006
            • 3719

            #7595
            Originally posted by seanfhear
            Thats not the same as playing for Northern Ireland with him as manager , Not by a Long Shot ! ! !
            Maybe not in your little world which, like that of far too many people in Ireland, judges people not by what they say and do, but by how others label them.

            For the rest of us however, if good people like Michael O'Neill trust him to do a good job, then that should be good enough.

            Besides which, he has already been the NI goalkeeping coach, plus had a spell as a Youth Development Officer for the IFA, and no-one ever complained.

            Or even bothered to make up a complaint....

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            • seanfhear
              Banned
              • Dec 2007
              • 5452

              #7596
              Originally posted by EalingGreen
              Maybe not in your little world which, like that of far too many people in Ireland, judges people not by what they say and do, but by how others label them.

              For the rest of us however, if good people like Michael O'Neill trust him to do a good job, then that should be good enough.

              Besides which, he has already been the NI goalkeeping coach, plus had a spell as a Youth Development Officer for the IFA, and no-one ever complained.

              Or even bothered to make up a complaint....
              The Proof of the Pudding will be in the Eating of the Pudding. If he gets the job then we will see ! !

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              • Olé Olé
                International Prospect
                • Sep 2011
                • 5475

                #7597
                Yes. It is just Ireland where far too many people are judged by how others are labelled.

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                • gastric
                  First Team
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 2327

                  #7598
                  Shhh, anyone? Is he gone yet?

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                  • Charlie Darwin
                    Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months.
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 18576

                    #7599
                    Originally posted by Olé Olé
                    Former Newcastle player could be set for Northern Ireland job https://the42.ie/5090424

                    Subsequent to the 42 posting this I have read that his leaving St. Johnstone was a result of a disagreement with the board and less to do with the NI job. The Times reckon Steve Robinson and Ian Baraclough are ahead of him in the reckoning.
                    They'd be mad to overlook Baraclough or Robinson for Wright, in my opinion. Even Shiels could be a good choice.

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                    • Olé Olé
                      International Prospect
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 5475

                      #7600
                      Yeah, I'd have thought Robinson would be nailed on for it.

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                      • EalingGreen
                        Seasoned Pro
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 3719

                        #7601
                        Originally posted by Olé Olé
                        Looks like the North are going with Tommy Wright as their new manager. After Michael O'Neill created a more welcoming environment for those of Catholic/Nationalist backgrounds, it will be interesting to see if UDR-supporter Wright can keep up that work: https://twitter.com/ChuckReboots/sta...191066112?s=19
                        Vincent Sweeney (ex-DCFC) thinks Tommy would be great for the job:

                        “Tommy was amazing for me and he changed my career,” he said. “He took a special interest in me at Limavady and he took my game to a different level.

                        “He had a massive impact on me,” he said. “He demanded a lot from you, but I loved every moment playing under Tommy.

                        “It doesn’t surprise me that he has gone on to do what he’s done in management and that he’s now being linked with an international job.



                        They must be in the same lodge...

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                        • geysir
                          Capped Player
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 15392

                          #7602
                          Originally posted by EalingGreen
                          Vincent Sweeney (ex-DCFC) thinks Tommy would be great for the job:

                          “Tommy was amazing for me and he changed my career,” he said. “He took a special interest in me at Limavady and he took my game to a different level.

                          “He had a massive impact on me,” he said. “He demanded a lot from you, but I loved every moment playing under Tommy.

                          “It doesn’t surprise me that he has gone on to do what he’s done in management and that he’s now being linked with an international job.



                          They must be in the same lodge...
                          That's Tommy's alibi, his catholic friend who stands by him to the end.

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                          • EalingGreen
                            Seasoned Pro
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 3719

                            #7603
                            Originally posted by geysir
                            That's Tommy's alibi, his catholic friend who stands by him to the end.
                            I'm not sure whether that is some sort of clever reference which I don't get, or whether it's meant to be taken as read.

                            Assuming it's the latter, then by the presumption of innocence which everyone deserves - even evil Black Prods - it should be for Tommy's detractors to find Catholics who do consider him a bigot, rather than his admirers to list all those who don't.

                            Though when I say "Catholics" (plural), I'd accept even one out of the hundreds he has worked with during his long career in NI, ROI and Scotland.

                            You know, to set against all those who have only good things to say about him, incl those who happily apply to work for him.

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                            • geysir
                              Capped Player
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 15392

                              #7604
                              Originally posted by EalingGreen
                              I'm not sure whether that is some sort of clever reference which I don't get, or whether it's meant to be taken as read.

                              Assuming it's the latter, then by the presumption of innocence which everyone deserves - even evil Black Prods - it should be for Tommy's detractors to find Catholics who do consider him a bigot, rather than his admirers to list all those who don't.

                              Though when I say "Catholics" (plural), I'd accept even one out of the hundreds he has worked with during his long career in NI, ROI and Scotland.

                              You know, to set against all those who have only good things to say about him, incl those who happily apply to work for him.
                              Still the same old Ealing Green, absent of humour.
                              Did you really 100% think I was serious? perhaps it was just 96%. You really need to listen more to the 4%.

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                              • seanfhear
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 5452

                                #7605
                                Originally posted by EalingGreen
                                I'm not sure whether that is some sort of clever reference which I don't get, or whether it's meant to be taken as read.

                                Assuming it's the latter, then by the presumption of innocence which everyone deserves - even evil Black Prods - it should be for Tommy's detractors to find Catholics who do consider him a bigot, rather than his admirers to list all those who don't.

                                Though when I say "Catholics" (plural), I'd accept even one out of the hundreds he has worked with during his long career in NI, ROI and Scotland.

                                You know, to set against all those who have only good things to say about him, incl those who happily apply to work for him.
                                Would that be good for their Health.

                                Perhaps we should get Neil Lennon’s Opines on the Northern Ireland situation ?

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