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  • nelo
    Apprentice
    • Oct 2002
    • 15

    #1

    The Genesis Report.

    How things have blown up in the FAI's nasty faces... I'll admit I wasn't on Keanes side at the time of the Saipan fiasco but after reading the report I am now 100% convinced he was right and what he did may create a new bright future for Irish football.
    The FAI is run like a burger van in temple bar on a cold winter night that sells Ice Cream when thousands of people are passing by and all they want is a hot burger. Football is a thriving business and as such requires business minded people to run it.

    Menton should be the first in a long line of muppet departures from Merrion square and in their place we should get an assortment of experianced finance, marketing and development executives. There are dozens of suitable candidates around the country who would jump at the chance of mixing their proffesional abilities with their love of the game. But what gaurantee do we have that the FAI will take the recommendations on board, well based on history: NONE.
    Personally I think we the fans will ultimetly have to take action such as boycotts to save the game, because we all know as well as the next man/woman that the FAI is unlikely to do us any favours.

    If the FAI are to get up to scratch then they need to bring in a visionary leader with the experiance to do the job, an ideal candidate whould be the former chief exec of the English FA Adam Crozier. But with a setup as backward as the one we have there would be more chance of Arsne Wenger taking Mick MC Carthys old seat... Irish football RIP - but there is hope thanks in no small part to Mr. Keane!
    Personally I blame Bertie for all our problems, he couldn't manage an under 10's league team never mind a country....
  • pete
    Capped Player
    • Jun 2001
    • 20250

    #2
    Re: The Genesis Report.

    Originally posted by nelo
    Football is a thriving business and as such requires business minded people to run it.
    And there was me thinking it was a sport. Are you Mr. R Murdoch in disguise?

    Originally posted by nelo
    If the FAI are to get up to scratch then they need to bring in a visionary leader with the experiance to do the job, an ideal candidate whould be the former chief exec of the English FA Adam Crozier.
    To coin a catchphrase You can't be serious?

    I suppose you think english footballk is the best in the world, Eriksson is a brilliant manager, Beckham is world class & its time to recolonise the 26 counties?



    LOL
    http://www.forastrust.ie/

    Bring back Rocketman!

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    • fosterdollar
      First Team
      • Jun 2001
      • 1766

      #3
      personally i blame Bertie for all our problems
      no politics in sport sunshine
      "I don’t want to tempt fate, but Thierry Henry is not having one of his best nights." - RTE co-commentator Jim Beglin, minutes before TH struck the stunning winner.

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      • Éanna
        International Prospect
        • Jun 2001
        • 9171

        #4
        Re: The Genesis Report.

        Originally posted by nelo
        The FAI is run like a burger van in temple bar on a cold winter night that sells Ice Cream when thousands of people are passing by and all they want is a hot burger.
        If only it were even run that well

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        • pete
          Capped Player
          • Jun 2001
          • 20250

          #5
          Just read that summary of the report & with regards the actual World Cup i don't think the FAI come off that badly - says the Saipan decision was well thought out beforehand & they had a 5 star hotel etc...

          It does criticise the whole admin structure of the FAI which i see as a separate matter.

          Interestingly it says the players were told at Niall Quinns testimonial that Siapan was for a rest & acclimatisation although RK wasn't present at that match. They seem to suggest RK over reacted although him leaving the squad was only a matter of time anyway such was the way it was building up.
          http://www.forastrust.ie/

          Bring back Rocketman!

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          • fosterdollar
            First Team
            • Jun 2001
            • 1766

            #6
            Another thing is that with the advent of this report it is likely that many candidates for manager will want to avoid the Ireland job till things settle down here and the FAi get on track
            "I don’t want to tempt fate, but Thierry Henry is not having one of his best nights." - RTE co-commentator Jim Beglin, minutes before TH struck the stunning winner.

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            • Éanna
              International Prospect
              • Jun 2001
              • 9171

              #7
              Originally posted by Magoo
              Another thing is that with the advent of this report it is likely that many candidates for manager will want to avoid the Ireland job till things settle down here and the FAi get on track
              the ireland job is the ultimate "poisoned chalice" IMO

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              • Macy
                Godless Commie Scum
                • Jun 2001
                • 11395

                #8
                Originally posted by Magoo
                no politics in sport sunshine
                Some times I wonder are you for real....... Irish football has been screwed by bertie and co...... from lack of investment in the eL for development of grounds, the refusal to give funds for eP because of the Bertie Bowl, The promised millions to force the FAI to back away from eP, Bertie Bowl being flushed down the, eh, bowl, and now none of the promised funds coming through....... At the same time the sectarian GAA have got Croke Park practically totally funded by the Government......
                If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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                • fosterdollar
                  First Team
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 1766

                  #9
                  if you must...

                  Originally posted by Macy
                  Irish football has been screwed by bertie and co......
                  dya reckon a load of bogball Fine Gaeler farmers are gonna do anything at all with regard to Irish Soccer?
                  "I don’t want to tempt fate, but Thierry Henry is not having one of his best nights." - RTE co-commentator Jim Beglin, minutes before TH struck the stunning winner.

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                  • fosterdollar
                    First Team
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 1766

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Macy
                    Bertie Bowl being flushed down the, eh, bowl,
                    who did the flushing?
                    "I don’t want to tempt fate, but Thierry Henry is not having one of his best nights." - RTE co-commentator Jim Beglin, minutes before TH struck the stunning winner.

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                    • pete
                      Capped Player
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 20250

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Macy
                      ....... Irish football has been screwed by bertie and co...... from lack of investment in the eL for development of grounds, the refusal to give funds for eP because of the Bertie Bowl, The promised millions to force the FAI to back away from eP, Bertie Bowl being flushed down the, eh, bowl, and now none of the promised funds coming through....... At the same time the sectarian GAA have got Croke Park practically totally funded by the Government......
                      Not that the FAI are of course blameless but speculation was that divisions about EP arose in the FAI alone party politics lices i.e. Bertie got the FF'ers to toe the FF party line.

                      Without Bertie & his Bowl + FAI getting similar grants as the GAA & i still believe EP would have had a good chance of construction.
                      http://www.forastrust.ie/

                      Bring back Rocketman!

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                      • nelo
                        Apprentice
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 15

                        #12
                        Re: Re: The Genesis Report.

                        I suppose you think english footballk is the best in the world, Eriksson is a brilliant manager, Beckham is world class & its time to recolonise the 26 counties?
                        I am not talking about Eriksson or Beckham, I am talking about the restructuring work the English FA did on all levels of the game. From schoolboy acadamies to comercialising the international players to make funds available for the whole system. The development and structure was copied from the French who improved upon the original Dutch design. The fruits from the groundwork Crozier put in place wont be visible for at least another 10 years but when they are we will become very, very jealous unless we get our thumbs out of our asses and do the same.

                        by the way,

                        Erikssons managerial record speaks for itself and though I'm a Villa fan who hates his faggotty guts Beckham IS a World Class player. As for the 26 Counties......
                        Personally I blame Bertie for all our problems, he couldn't manage an under 10's league team never mind a country....

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                        • nelo
                          Apprentice
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 15

                          #13
                          http://www.rte.ie/sport/2002/1113/soccer/fai.html
                          Surprise, surprise, who would want to work for the FAI anyway.
                          Personally I blame Bertie for all our problems, he couldn't manage an under 10's league team never mind a country....

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                          • Daxion
                            Youth Team
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 162

                            #14
                            If anybody requires a copy of the Genesis Report, I can forward it to you, just supply your e-mail address.
                            It is 31 pages, in PDF format.

                            my e-mail
                            dbyrne@cil.co.uk
                            Republic of Ireland Soccer Supporter Club (RISSC London).

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                            • patsh
                              Seasoned Pro
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 4875

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DAXION
                              If anybody requires a copy of the Genesis Report, I can forward it to you, just supply your e-mail address.
                              It is 31 pages, in PDF format.

                              my e-mail
                              dbyrne@cil.co.uk
                              Or you could just go to the FAI or Irish Times site and get it.
                              Or, Summary Report:
                              FAI are a shambles.
                              They should all resign.
                              Saipan should never have happened.
                              RK was proved right on what he said.
                              McCarthy was a little poodle who should have spoke up and got things sorted. But he was a nice guy and he can't be blamed.
                              They should do a lot of things in the future.


                              Result of Report:
                              Menton resigns.
                              Loads of talk.
                              The Heineken rep will continue to be the boss of soccer in this country.
                              They will do nothing as usual.

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