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  • DannyInvincible
    Capped Player
    • Sep 2006
    • 11521

    #91
    Originally posted by DeLorean
    I don't think many Irish people even relate to the word to be honest. When I hear it I always think of Terry Venables saying it from some reason (although that might be in my head from the Après Match sketches).
    I think the mild "stigma" or "cringe" (if you could call it that) surrounding usage of "Éire" to refer to the country (even though the term still appears on Irish passports, stamps and coinage too) has to do with it being perceived as more of a partitionist or specific term for the 26-county state than "Ireland". After the 1937 constitution was adopted, the British government insisted on referring to the 26-county state as "Éire/Eire" so as to distinguish from the potentially 32-county term "Ireland", use of which the British government regarded as an anti-partitionist or irredentist attempt by the state (obviously in tandem with the explicit constitutional territorial claim over the north) to lay claim to the whole of the island: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_...e.22_v_Ireland
    My blog.
    FIFA Player Eligibility in the Context of Ireland: The Actual Rules, the Real Facts and Dispelling the Prevailing Myths.

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    • BonnieShels
      Coach
      • Jan 2009
      • 12090

      #92
      Originally posted by DeLorean
      Not really, a couple of jerseys. Having a few items is handy in a tournament setting but I wouldn't really find the need otherwise. The games don't roll around that often and I wouldn't tend to wear them in everyday life.

      Think I might invest in that black one alright though and the jacket could be useful.
      I've had this weird possession affliction ever since my mother never got me the 1990 shirt. I rarely wear these shirts outside of a match setting but alas...

      Incidentally I have the shirt below. Hunted it down for months and eventually came across this spurious website that stocked it and bought it. I have attempted to wear it on numerous occasions but never do. I always end up with my 2001 Irish Permanent beaut.



      Last edited by BonnieShels; 07/04/2017, 9:19 AM.
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      • DeLorean
        Capped Player
        • Jun 2008
        • 10894

        #93
        Originally posted by BonnieShels
        I've had this weird possession affliction ever since my mother never got me the 1990 shirt.
        I had the 1990 away one at the time (well post WC90 actually because I had little or no interest when the tournament actually kicked off, my birthday is in August so I suspect that's when the purchase was made). I only watched the Romania game because I was bored at my grandparent's house and that got the ball rolling for me. I had full intentions of watching the Italy game as a result but I was brutally whisked off to Saturday evening mass by my aunt instead. The game was in injury time when we got back. Harsh.

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        • SkStu
          Capped Player
          • Feb 2007
          • 14863

          #94
          Originally posted by BonnieShels
          Incidentally I have the shirt below. Hunted it down for months and eventually came across this spurious website that stocked it and bought it. I have attempted to wear it on numerous occasions but never do. I always end up with my 2001 Irish Permanent beaut.

          that jersey and the IP logo will always remind me of Anthony Foley.
          I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.

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          • SkStu
            Capped Player
            • Feb 2007
            • 14863

            #95
            Originally posted by DeLorean
            I had the 1990 away one at the time (well post WC90 actually because I had little or no interest when the tournament actually kicked off, my birthday is in August so I suspect that's when the purchase was made). I only watched the Romania game because I was bored at my grandparent's house and that got the ball rolling for me. I had full intentions of watching the Italy game as a result but I was brutally whisked off to Saturday evening mass by my aunt instead. The game was in injury time when we got back. Harsh.
            that's pretty much child abuse.
            I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.

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            • IsMiseSean
              First Team
              • Jul 2004
              • 1799

              #96
              Originally posted by DannyInvincible
              I think the mild "stigma" or "cringe" (if you could call it that) surrounding usage of "Éire" to refer to the country (even though the term still appears on Irish passports, stamps and coinage too) has to do with it being perceived as more of a partitionist or specific term for the 26-county state than "Ireland". After the 1937 constitution was adopted, the British government insisted on referring to the 26-county state as "Éire/Eire" so as to distinguish from the potentially 32-county term "Ireland", use of which the British government regarded as an anti-partitionist or irredentist attempt by the state (obviously in tandem with the explicit constitutional territorial claim over the north) to lay claim to the whole of the island: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_...e.22_v_Ireland
              Going slightly of topic but what do most fans call our team? I always refer to us as Ireland.
              On English TV & media we're always referred to as Republic of Ireland. Even the Sky graphics say 'ROI' when the actual FIFA 3 letter country code is 'IRL'.

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              • BonnieShels
                Coach
                • Jan 2009
                • 12090

                #97
                Originally posted by IsMiseSean
                Going slightly of topic but what do most fans call our team? I always refer to us as Ireland.
                On English TV & media we're always referred to as Republic of Ireland. Even the Sky graphics say 'ROI' when the actual FIFA 3 letter country code is 'IRL'.
                Always always Ireland, never the "republic".

                My cup at the Euros had Ireland on it incidentally.
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                • KrisLetang
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2016
                  • 572

                  #98
                  You wore a cup to all the games? Hooligans?

                  I've never heard anything but Ireland either, unless the chips are down some ppl call the players "nasty buggers."

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                  • DannyInvincible
                    Capped Player
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 11521

                    #99
                    Originally posted by IsMiseSean
                    Going slightly of topic but what do most fans call our team? I always refer to us as Ireland.
                    On English TV & media we're always referred to as Republic of Ireland. Even the Sky graphics say 'ROI' when the actual FIFA 3 letter country code is 'IRL'.
                    Both the FAI and IFA teams used the name "Ireland" prior to the 1950s, so FIFA decreed around the time that we were to be officially known as the "Republic of Ireland" and them as "Northern Ireland" in order to distinguish when the two competed in FIFA competition, but, in conversation, I'd only ever use "Ireland" myself to refer to us. I may use "Republic of Ireland" if I feel the need to use the official title for writing/publishing purposes or something like that.

                    You mention that Sky Sports and the English media refer to the team as "Republic of Ireland", but RTÉ do the very same.
                    Last edited by DannyInvincible; 07/04/2017, 9:35 PM.
                    My blog.
                    FIFA Player Eligibility in the Context of Ireland: The Actual Rules, the Real Facts and Dispelling the Prevailing Myths.

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                    • IsMiseSean
                      First Team
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 1799

                      #100
                      Originally posted by DannyInvincible
                      You mention that Sky Sports and the English media refer to the team as "Republic of Ireland", but RTÉ do the very same.
                      I couldn't recall what RTE/Irish media use.
                      I think RTE use 'IRL' for their graphics but it's usually just the UEFA graphics they use on their broadcasts.

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                      • DannyInvincible
                        Capped Player
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 11521

                        #101
                        Originally posted by IsMiseSean
                        I couldn't recall what RTE/Irish media use.
                        I think RTE use 'IRL' for their graphics but it's usually just the UEFA graphics they use on their broadcasts.
                        You're right actually.



                        I think that's because they use the UEFA-supplied graphics and codes, but I'm pretty certain they used to use "ROI" or "Rep. of Ireland" in their graphics up until UEFA started supplying the current standardised ones.

                        See here from the abandoned England friendly at Lansdowne Road in 1995:

                        My blog.
                        FIFA Player Eligibility in the Context of Ireland: The Actual Rules, the Real Facts and Dispelling the Prevailing Myths.

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                        • DannyInvincible
                          Capped Player
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 11521

                          #102
                          In RTÉ's adverts for games, I'm also pretty sure they'll always refer to us as the "Republic/Rep. of Ireland".

                          See this advert from September of 2014, for example:

                          My blog.
                          FIFA Player Eligibility in the Context of Ireland: The Actual Rules, the Real Facts and Dispelling the Prevailing Myths.

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                          • DannyInvincible
                            Capped Player
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 11521

                            #103
                            Although I see RTÉ used "Ireland" in their scoreline graphic for the home game against Holland in 2001:

                            My blog.
                            FIFA Player Eligibility in the Context of Ireland: The Actual Rules, the Real Facts and Dispelling the Prevailing Myths.

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                            • tetsujin1979
                              Coach
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 23730

                              #104
                              The three-character code comes from FIFA, there's a list of them on wikipedia here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._country_codes
                              The graphics for the qualifier come from UEFA, which is why they say "European Qualifiers" when they're for the World Cup
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                              • KrisLetang
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2016
                                • 572

                                #105
                                I actually asked someone who worked at ESPN why it said ROI and they said IRL is patented by the Indy Racing League (Indy 500). But that can't be true. what if someone patented NY? No one else could us it? The Yankees would be YAN ? And what if Yan can cook already owned YAN, etc?

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