Quigley and Sammo add to their U-21 caps

[Dodge]

Yes. In 10 years a cup win would be far more memorable than a year or two in the first division.

You'd seriously take a cup win and relegation ahead of staying up? And you accuse other clubs of being short sighted...

[Schumi]

You'd seriously take a cup win and relegation ahead of staying up?

Yes. What do Bray remember about 1999? I'm sure it's the cup win more than the relegation. As long as we come back up soon enough, and I'd be confident we would, winning the cup would come first for me. I'm sure Dundalk thought they'd come back up quickly too when they went down but I think our set-up is better equipped than most to bounce back.

I've never seen us win any trophy of consequence, with apologies to our Under-21 teams. If we were regularly winning leagues or cups, staying up would be more important than a single trophy as another chance would come around soon enough. Having won nothing in 23 years (first division, shields, Leinster senior cups and super cups don't count), a trophy would certainly come first for me.

And you accuse other clubs of being short sighted...

Do I? When was this?

[Dodge]

Yes. What do Bray remember about 1999? I'm sure it's the cup win more than the relegation.

I wouldn't presume to know what they feel. I do know that for the last few weeks Longford fans have been talking about staying up as being more important than the cup win.

Do I? When was this?

Ah all you students look alike to me

[DmanDmythDledge]

Did he? I thought it was Nolan who missed the header? I don't rember Sammon missing a chance but then I had had a few drinks.

That's the first game he's talking about.

[Schumi]

for the last few weeks Longford fans have been talking about staying up as being more important than the cup win.

But they've won the cup twice in the last few years. I don't think I'd put a third cup win in a few years ahead of staying up, a first in a generation is different.

[Dodge]

You're talking to a man who follows a club who haven't won the fecking thing in 46 years...

I just think that the long term success of the club would be better served by playing in the Premier league than by winning the cup and getting relegated.

[Schumi]

You're talking to a man who follows a club who haven't won the fecking thing in 46 years...

Pats have won the league several (not getting into that argument!) times in the past 10 years, we've won nothing. You've seen Pats win the league and just about stay up, which meant more?

I just think that the long term success of the club would be better served by playing in the Premier league than by winning the cup and getting relegated.

It's a reasonable point but I want us to win something! Tbh, I think it boils down to the length of the stay in the first division. If we were to stay there for 10 years, I'd agree but I reckon it would only be for a year or two and in that case, the cup win would be worth to me.

[Dodge]

Pats have won the league several (not getting into that argument!) times in the past 10 years, we've won nothing. You've seen Pats win the league and just about stay up, which meant more?

Not really the same thing as you're never going to have the choice between the two. They both meant a lot at the time.

It's a reasonable point but I want us to win something!

have you tried overspending?

[John83]

have you tried overspending?

We're just not very good at it.

[pineapple stu]

have you tried overspending?

Remind me how 1984 came about?

Not to necessarily agree with schumi (though not going to disagree either), I'm assuming he's arguing on the basis that our club structure is such that, if we go down, we'll bounce straight back up again (like we did the last time). In that case, the question becomes one of whether you would pay for a Cup win with one successful season in the First Division.

[Dodge]

Not to necessarily agree with schumi (though not going to disagree either), I'm assuming he's arguing on the basis that our club structure is such that, if we go down, we'll bounce straight back up again (like we did the last time). In that case, the question becomes one of whether you would pay for a Cup win with one successful season in the First Division.

But structures guarentee you nothing...

[Student Mullet]

But structures guarentee you nothing...

Nor does overspending.

[Dodge]

Of course.

[Student Mullet]

Remind me how 1984 came about?

My understanding is that the Government used the fear of an enemy to convince the population to give up their freedoms but all records of the glorious revolution have since been 'corrected'.

[CollegeTillIDie]

'' It was the 4th of April 1984 and the clocks struck thirteen'' is something close to the opening line of 1984