Are we in trouble?

[Poor Student]

Waterford and Galway have to play each other yet meaning that one or both teams have to lose points by the end of the season making it harder for both to catch us even if we lose the last two games.

[CollegeTillIDie]

If Longford hadn't suffered the points deduction... they'd only be three points behind us. Waterford have a game in hand and are only 4 points behind us. Galway are only three points behind us. You were saying how safe we are.....Bray are only a point behind WITH A GAME IN HAND!

[Poor Student]

Longford were deducted six points though. Their overspending allowed them to secure the services of Pat Sullivan over ourselves so it's all interlinked. Bray have no game in hand. Of Waterford and Galway, one has to drop three points or both drop two in the remaining games.

[CollegeTillIDie]

Doesn't alter the basic point I have been making for years that an average of 1 point per game is not good enough... and we might not even manage that much this year!

[DmanDmythDledge]

If Longford hadn't suffered the points deduction... they'd only be three points behind us. Waterford have a game in hand and are only 4 points behind us. Galway are only three points behind us. You were saying how safe we are.....Bray are only a point behind WITH A GAME IN HAND!

Longford would be level with us with the six points, Waterford can only realistically get three points max and Bray don't have any game in hand.

[Poor Student]

Doesn't alter the basic point I have been making for years that an average of 1 point per game is not good enough... and we might not even manage that much this year!

I'm not altering it. I don't look at points averages, I look at position in the table. Your points average only has to be better than the teams around you, not some arbitrary target.

[DmanDmythDledge]

Actually forget about all this we need X points to be safe because team Y could get Z points and catch us. We know ourselves that we are capable of performing superior than any of the teams around us. One thing about us this season has been that when we need a result/performance we have delivered, eg Pats away, Derry away (twice), Drogs away. When we perform to our potential we are a top half side. Where we have lost points, and where we generally seem to drop points, are the games against the teams around us. The players seem to think that as we've just gone and beaten Derry or whoever that they can just show up and get the win. That's the sort of attitude that has resulted in this unnecessary and avoidable disscussion. The players know that they can put it right and if they apply themselves we will get three points against Galway on the last day. Also remember if necessary I will be able to have words with them after the Pats game.

[CollegeTillIDie]

Longford would be level with us with the six points, Waterford can only realistically get three points max and Bray don't have any game in hand.

How did Bray get on tonight then? Oh and three of our seven wins were against the same team. So how many teams out eleven have we actually beaten this season?

[CollegeTillIDie]

I'm not altering it. I don't look at points averages, I look at position in the table. Your points average only has to be better than the teams around you, not some arbitrary target.

We are not even able to manage 1 point out of a possible 3 on average over the season. Stan's managed almost 50% in this campaign, for the Republic of Ireland , and people are calling for his head !

[DmanDmythDledge]

Bray lost to Longford.

We've beaten six teams and have to play Galway and Longford (and possibly Cork) once more.

[Conor H]

If we win on Friday we'll go ahead of ye on goal difference so i don't know how we're not safe and ye are going on that possible scenario?

[CollegeTillIDie]

If we win on Friday we'll go ahead of ye on goal difference so i don't know how we're not safe and ye are going on that possible scenario?

Well said Conor H. (possibly Cork) what do you mean Dmand? and cup games don't carry points for the record.

[DmanDmythDledge]

If we win on Friday we'll go ahead of ye on goal difference so i don't know how we're not safe and ye are going on that possible scenario?

I think it's a case (or least my opinion) that we're more likely to be safe than Galway. I think that both teams will stay up.

[jebus]

If we win on Friday we'll go ahead of ye on goal difference so i don't know how we're not safe and ye are going on that possible scenario?

Haven't Galway won the least amount of games of anyone in the Premier this year though? Wouldn't be at all expectant that they will win one out of the last three, but for me it will come down to the Waterford-Galway game as to who goes in the playoff. Longford have been good lately but that 6 point deduction will put them down I feel

[Conor H]

Haven't Galway won the least amount of games of anyone in the Premier this year though? Wouldn't be at all expectant that they will win one out of the last three, but for me it will come down to the Waterford-Galway game as to who goes in the playoff. Longford have been good lately but that 6 point deduction will put them down I feel

We have-fair point.

But a win against a Derry side with nothing to play for isn't the hardest thing to achieve when you're going all guns blazing for it.
If we win on Friday i'd be confident of us getting 4 points from Waterford and UCD.Which would see us safe easily.