Cork City denied a licence; club to be wound up; FORAS to enter First Division

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  • CSFShels
    Reserves
    • Sep 2008
    • 882

    #601
    Originally posted by micls
    CCFC won't be ceasing to exist, to use your own words, we'll be 'downsizing', we'll just be doing it mid-season, unlike other clubs.
    If you've to drop out of the league this season, you're ceasing to exist imo, I'm well aware there'll be a similar entity, possibly even with the same name though. But its alot different from Drogs just having to slash the wage bill, and Shels just getting relegated.
    Lets redefine what it means to heal

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    • tiktok
      Coach
      • Feb 2003
      • 5623

      #602
      Originally posted by Hairy Bowsie
      The great, wise and noble tiktok
      I'm also a dab hand in the kitchen.
      Cork City: Making 'Dream Team' seem realistic since 2007.

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      • micls
        International Prospect
        • Jan 2006
        • 5019

        #603
        Originally posted by CSFShels
        If you've to drop out of the league this season, you're ceasing to exist imo, I'm well aware there'll be a similar entity, possibly even with the same name though.
        There's a lot more to a football club than a senior team. Our senior team not playing football for the rest of the season, is by no means the end of our club.
        Originally posted by CSFShels
        But its alot different from Drogs just having to slash the wage bill, and Shels just getting relegated.
        Of course its different.

        Its not much different from when this happened to us in 1995 though. The holding company was wound up. The only difference this time is the licensing laws.

        A premier license does not a football club make, and lack of one won't kill us either.

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        • CSFShels
          Reserves
          • Sep 2008
          • 882

          #604
          Originally posted by micls
          There's a lot more to a football club than a senior team. Our senior team not playing football for the rest of the season, is by no means the end of our club.


          Of course its different.

          Its not much different from when this happened to us in 1995 though. The holding company was wound up. The only difference this time is the licensing laws.

          A premier license does not a football club make, and lack of one won't kill us either.
          Fair enough I suppose, but I'm sure you still get my point on how different it is to the other situations, and how it might be much quicker to ring alarm bells.
          Lets redefine what it means to heal

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          • John83
            Coach
            • Feb 2003
            • 9082

            #605
            Originally posted by tiktok
            I'm also a dab hand in the kitchen.
            Some say he has an airport in Russia named after him, and that he's terrified of ducks.
            You can't spell failure without FAI

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            • micls
              International Prospect
              • Jan 2006
              • 5019

              #606
              Originally posted by CSFShels
              and how it might be much quicker to ring alarm bells.
              Honestly, I dont know that it will, but I hope it does

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              • dcfcsteve
                Banned
                • Aug 2004
                • 6341

                #607
                Originally posted by christo
                Sorry but although it is only the A championship but Cobh are still a League club
                It's Intermediate level at best - not senior.

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                • GalwayRed
                  Reserves
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 679

                  #608
                  Originally posted by dcfcsteve
                  It's Intermediate level at best - not senior.
                  It dosent matter what level the teams are at its recognised by the FAI as being part of the league.
                  http://www.shelbournefc.ie/

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                  • dcfcsteve
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 6341

                    #609
                    Originally posted by GalwayRed
                    The A Championship is the third tier in the league of ireland. Thats not non-league. Cobh are still a league side.
                    It may be the third tier - but that doesn't make it league/senior.

                    Just like the Conference/Blue Square Premier is the 5th tier in England, but is still non-league.

                    If the A league was league-proper, then it wouldn't have U21 teams from senior clubs in there compulsorily. It would also just be be called the Second division, rather than A Championship.

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                    • Hairy Bowsie
                      Reserves
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 544

                      #610
                      Originally posted by CSFShels
                      Shels just getting relegated.
                      Demoted. Not relegated
                      They always cheat, they always lie
                      **** Delaney and the FAI

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                      • GalwayRed
                        Reserves
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 679

                        #611
                        Originally posted by dcfcsteve
                        It may be the third tier - but that doesn't make it league/senior.

                        Just like the Conference/Blue Square Premier is the 5th tier in England, but is still non-league.

                        If the A league was league-proper, then it wouldn't have U21 teams from senior clubs in there compulsorily. It would also just be be called the Second division, rather than A Championship.
                        The point being made is Cork still have a league of ireland side in the county.
                        The A Championship is part of the league of ireland otherwise teams couldnt be promoted to the league of ireland first division they would have to be elected into it.
                        When the English national conference started out it was non-league because no team that won it originally would be promoted to the 4th tier of english football. I think thats where it picked up the non-league tag.
                        Thats changed now and teams in the blue square can be promoted to the 4th tier. Therefore I would consider that part of the English national league and the teams in it to be league sides. I dont know if the Blue Square could technically be considered non-league I think it just never lost that tag.
                        http://www.shelbournefc.ie/

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                        • Longfordian
                          Coach
                          • May 2002
                          • 9227

                          #612
                          There's a football pyramid in England whereby you get promoted all the way up so in effect you'd have to go down about nine or ten tiers before you'd get to non-league by that definition.
                          The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand..

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                          • dcfcsteve
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 6341

                            #613
                            Originally posted by Longfordian
                            There's a football pyramid in England whereby you get promoted all the way up so in effect you'd have to go down about nine or ten tiers before you'd get to non-league by that definition.
                            You'd have to go below county level for example. In which case the English league would have a few thousand clubs . Instead - they always talk about the 92 league clubs.

                            Non league is short-hand for 'senior', and the A League ain't senior fotball.

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                            • pineapple stu
                              Biased against YOUR club
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 40781

                              #614
                              Originally posted by Longfordian
                              There's a football pyramid in England whereby you get promoted all the way up so in effect you'd have to go down about nine or ten tiers before you'd get to non-league by that definition.
                              Non-league is the Conference; going down as far as you note (level 11 or so) is leaving senior football and going into intermediate football.

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                              • prince20
                                Reserves
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 304

                                #615
                                Any chance of getting back on topic????????
                                Why are people who "need no introduction" always introduced?

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