Cork City denied a licence; club to be wound up; FORAS to enter First Division

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  • shep
    Reserves
    • Sep 2007
    • 635

    #136
    Originally posted by passerrby
    would bray be oblidged to play a game in this instance
    Yeah,because what if a player got suspended(i know injured was already mentioned)

    Ah hopefully by some miracle they will be around come Friday,a big points deduction and let them see out the season even with a team of youths...if for nothing else at least there would be revenue from gate reciepts for FORAS
    Only another 9 titles till Drogheda become pride of county louth!!!

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    • Joseph McSweene
      Apprentice
      • May 2009
      • 40

      #137
      Originally posted by passerrby
      would bray be oblidged to play a game in this instance
      Don't think they'd have to play it, but they possibly would. Might be interested in a few defenders from us considering the state of their defending in some games this season!

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      • EalingGreen
        Seasoned Pro
        • Aug 2006
        • 3719

        #138
        Originally posted by marinobohs
        Following the demise of Cobh this now leaves the 2nd biggest city (and biggest county) in Ireland without a LOI team.
        Certainly no LOI team, but Cork is not Ireland's 2nd biggest city. According to the 2006 Irish Census, the population figures are:

        Cork City = 119,418
        Metropolitan Cork = 274,000
        County Cork = 481,295

        By contrast, the latest population figures from NI are:
        Belfast City = 267,374
        Greater (or "Metropolitan") Belfast = 645,536.

        By way of comparison, Belfast has four teams in the Irish Premier League (Glens, Linfield, Crues and Cliftonville), plus another (Donegal Celtic) in the Championship.


        Originally posted by marinobohs
        Hope they can regroup in some form in the future
        Seeing as Belfast has too many teams, and Cork now has none, I'd be quite happy to let you have one of our spares for free.
        "Cork True Blues" or maybe "Linfield Rebels" anyone?



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        • passinginterest
          International Prospect
          • Oct 2006
          • 5318

          #139
          Just to show that it's not only the League of Ireland that sees clubs go into liquidation: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...on/8174920.stm

          Actually a few similarities, in that a new owner takes over, claims to have invested lots of personal money and continues to refuse to admit that all is lost.
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          • White Horse
            Seasoned Pro
            • Dec 2006
            • 3714

            #140
            Originally posted by EalingGreen
            Certainly no LOI team, but Cork is not Ireland's 2nd biggest city. According to the 2006 Irish Census, the population figures are:

            Cork City = 119,418
            Metropolitan Cork = 274,000
            County Cork = 481,295

            By contrast, the latest population figures from NI are:
            Belfast City = 267,374
            Greater (or "Metropolitan") Belfast = 645,536.
            I'd say he was referring to the country rather than the island.

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            • gufc2000
              First Team
              • Jan 2009
              • 1963

              #141
              Originally posted by Ezeikial
              What impact does "free agent" status have as regards the transfer window. Can other LoI clubs sign free agents after the transfer window closes?

              I suspect that there is very little opportunity for most of these players anyway, with other LoI clubs before the close season. Sligo, Drogheda and Dundalk have been active in signing players in the window, and presumable are fully committed. Shamrock Rovers may have some capacity, Bohs have a transfer embrago and it is difficult to see any of the remainder of Derry, Galway, St Pats or Bray, having any signifcant means to sign new players.
              If we can sell Jayo quickly, then we may be able to sign a replacement, but whether anyone from Cork wants to play part-time football in Galway is another days work. Seamus Conneely is wanted by Middlesbrough aswell so if both leave we are down to a squad of 16, so we would need 1 or 2 players

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              • EalingGreen
                Seasoned Pro
                • Aug 2006
                • 3719

                #142
                Originally posted by White Horse
                I'd say he was referring to the country rather than the island.
                Fair enough.

                Actually it was that although I've been to Cork, his post set me wondering about how big it is compared with Belfast.

                And when I saw that Belfast is around twice as big, it then struck me as curious how Cork has struggled down the years to maintain even one senior club, whilst Belfast has so many*.

                That's all really.

                P.S. The offer to let the Cork take Linfield off our hands for free still stands!

                * - Late Edit: I forgot to mention Belfast Celtic, who were pretty massive in the day, plus Distillery used to be a decent-sized Belfast club, with a proud history, until they were effectively forced out of their Grosvenor Road ground in West Belfast by the Troubles/re-development, eventually re-locating to Lisburn.
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisburn_Distillery_F.C.
                Last edited by EalingGreen; 29/07/2009, 5:12 PM.

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                • Joseph McSweene
                  Apprentice
                  • May 2009
                  • 40

                  #143
                  Originally posted by gufc2000
                  If we can sell Jayo quickly, then we may be able to sign a replacement, but whether anyone from Cork wants to play part-time football in Galway is another days work. Seamus Conneely is wanted by Middlesbrough aswell so if both leave we are down to a squad of 16, so we would need 1 or 2 players
                  Billy Dennehy is from Kerry so he might be interested-especially with Kells Bells just having signed permenantly with ye. Don't know after that really-our front line was the weak part of our team, better to look at central midfield and defenders from our squad.

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                  • White Horse
                    Seasoned Pro
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 3714

                    #144
                    Originally posted by EalingGreen
                    And when I saw that Belfast is around twice as big, it then struck me as curious how Cork has struggled down the years to maintain even one senior club, whilst Belfast has so many.
                    GAA is very very strong, both hurling and gaelic football. Also the middle class types gravitate towards rugby.

                    It still is a bit of a mystery though. 5,000 fans isn't a lot in a city of that size.

                    As for Linfield, I'd swap them for Bohs.

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                    • EalingGreen
                      Seasoned Pro
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 3719

                      #145
                      Originally posted by White Horse
                      [Cork] GAA is very very strong, both hurling and gaelic football. Also the middle class types gravitate towards rugby.
                      Whereas GAA* in Belfast/Antrim has never been very strong and rugby, whilst reasonably popular, is still pretty much confined to the middle-class/Grammar school set, like Cork.

                      It's all a bit like Derry, tbh, which has always been a "football city", but nothing much for GAA, despite being predominantly Nationalist.

                      * - Hurling is strong in the Glens of Antrim, but that still only makes it a bit of a niche sport, tbh.
                      Originally posted by White Horse
                      It still is a bit of a mystery though. 5,000 fans isn't a lot in a city of that size.
                      It all goes to reinforce for me the importance of history and tradition etc, as a factor in a club/city/region's success in sport. That is, you can't grow specific plants in the wrong soil.

                      Originally posted by White Horse
                      As for Linfield, I'd swap them for Bohs.
                      We don't want a swap, we just want rid of them...

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                      • Dunny
                        International Prospect
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 5371

                        #146
                        Found this on the Cork forum. There was a FORAS meeting tonight.

                        Confirmed offer put in to purchase the club ,take over all debt -refused
                        Foras offer to take over the Club - refused

                        4 man consortium led by Danny Drew
                        Last edited by Dunny; 29/07/2009, 8:31 PM.
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                        • adamd164
                          First Team
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 2345

                          #147
                          Beggars belief!

                          The club will now fold with him having rejected the bid from FORAS. He is a complete scumbag.

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                          • sonofstan
                            First Team
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 1355

                            #148
                            Originally posted by Dunny
                            Found this on the Cork forum. There was a FORAS meeting tonight.
                            What's Danny Drew doing?!
                            A patriot is someone who knows how to hate his country properly.

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                            • adamd164
                              First Team
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 2345

                              #149
                              Drew was interested during examinership also and the club was not given to him. It was never going to be as the FAI don't want to deal with him.

                              The more relevant bit is that Coughlan turned down a recent FORAS bid. It shows up his "want to hand over the club to the fans" bull for what it is. He's out for himself and has always been. God knows what schemes he's got going, but guaranteed they're there. He is a shyster.
                              Last edited by adamd164; 29/07/2009, 8:44 PM.

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                              • sonofstan
                                First Team
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 1355

                                #150
                                Let me see if this is right: Cork City Investments Ltd. will be wound up by order of Ms. Justice LaFoy on Friday morning if it - effectively Tom Coughlan - can't come up with 440k to pay the revenue. In that case, presumably a court appointed liquidator will move in and try and recover whatever assets it can in order to pay the company's creditors, with Revenue at the head of the list. At a guess, the company won't have anything like the requisite amount, and the revenue will go away with a small percentage of what is rightfully theirs (and therefore, ours).

                                Nevertheless, in the meantime, Coughlan is perfectly entitled to turn down an offer to take over the club, pay off the taxman and keep the thing going? Can the court order him to sell to a viable bidder? can the liquidator do the same?
                                A patriot is someone who knows how to hate his country properly.

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