Cork City denied a licence; club to be wound up; FORAS to enter First Division

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  • John83
    Coach
    • Feb 2003
    • 9082

    #16
    Originally posted by don ramo
    the really funny part is this stupid FORAS that was set up to help the club, they raised 75k apparently since they formed, yet havent handed over a penny, so the cork people used this tool to help save there club, and the tool just, what, broke, why isnt that money handed over,

    tools and tools and more tools, i thought our SC was bad, at least we just got relegated because they didnt hand over funds, but to be wound up, the club doesnt deserve to exist with fans like that, we told our ones to **** off,

    idiocracy at its height,
    €75k wouldn't have saved the club. Now they have €75k to set up a new club.
    You can't spell failure without FAI

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    • Sheridan
      Seasoned Pro
      • Dec 2004
      • 2660

      #17
      Originally posted by OneRedArmy
      Coughlan managed to convince an examiner and the courts (initially) that he was bone fida, that really should've been enough for the FAI to rely on.
      I love your bourgeois faith in the system, it's quite touching.

      Plenty of informed Cork folk on here and elsewhere knew exactly what Coughlan was and what he was not. Anyone with half a brain (and whether that qualification debars those in the legal profession is quite another matter) could have figured out from the evidence presented to them that this was a possibility, if not a likelihood.
      The Football Association of Ireland (FAI) notes the outcome of today’s High Court proceedings involving Cork City Football Club.
      One is reminded of Thomas Carlyle's response when told that Margaret Fuller had "accepted the universe." "Gad, she'd better!"
      A leading authority on League of Ireland football since 2003. You're probably wrong.

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      • Blue-Army
        Reserves
        • Jul 2007
        • 278

        #18
        Sorry for going off topic a bit...but,

        Will Cork be considered the automatically relegated team, or will there be an extra automatic promotion place in the 1st Division?

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        • OneRedArmy
          Seasoned Pro
          • Aug 2004
          • 4893

          #19
          Originally posted by Sheridan
          I love your bourgeois faith in the system, it's quite touching.

          Plenty of informed Cork folk on here and elsewhere knew exactly what Coughlan was and what he was not. Anyone with half a brain (and whether that qualification debars those in the legal profession is quite another matter) could have figured out from the evidence presented to them that this was a possibility, if not a likelihood.
          One is reminded of Thomas Carlyle's response when told that Margaret Fuller had "accepted the universe." "Gad, she'd better!"
          The legal system clearly failed in this case. But thats hardly a surprise to anyone with any knowledge of the "system" here.

          The alternative was the FAI doing its own due diligence to a level far in excess of the courts. The cost of this would be absolutely prohibitive and would have to be funded from somewhere.

          Apply cost-benefit analysis to any situation and there's a level where you accept the risk of failure and move on. Football is no different.

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          • cheech
            Youth Team
            • Jul 2004
            • 158

            #20
            I said it at the start of the season and was vilified for it but its an absolute joke that Cork got to start this season as Premier Division club.

            For that, yes you can fault the FAI.

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            • don ramo
              First Team
              • Oct 2006
              • 2071

              #21
              Originally posted by brianw82
              Who would give money to Tom Coughlan? No sane person, that's for sure.
              Originally posted by OneRedArmy
              Why should they give money to bail out a man who has proven nothing other than he is probably the biggest Walter Mitty-esque character in the history of the EL (and he's got some pretty good company)?

              Why give a cent to a man who presented a plan to the examiner and then, starting the next day, basically did the opposite of what he said he'd do (he didn't pay a cent to the Revenue)?

              If they'd given him the money they STILL wouldn't have enough money to pay the creditors and wouldn't have anything to show for it.

              Are you Tom Coughlan?
              Originally posted by John83
              €75k wouldn't have saved the club. Now they have €75k to set up a new club.
              well as far as i could see they were set up by the fans to help raise funds for Cork City FC, yet they didnt hand over a single cent to help teh club out,

              am i the only person who sees a problem with that, irrelevent if coughlan is in charge that money was riased with the purpose of helping CCFC,

              if they set up in the A League fair enough

              think of it this way of someone raisied 200k for an operation that cost 400k, would you think it fair he keep the money cause its not enough??,
              Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.

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              • OneRedArmy
                Seasoned Pro
                • Aug 2004
                • 4893

                #22
                Originally posted by don ramo
                well as far as i could see they were set up by the fans to help raise funds for Cork City FC, yet they didnt hand over a single cent to help teh club out,

                am i the only person who sees a problem with that, irrelevent if coughlan is in charge that money was riased with the purpose of helping CCFC,

                if they set up in the A League fair enough

                think of it this way of someone raisied 200k for an operation that cost 400k, would you think it fair he keep the money cause its not enough??,
                If the person was terminally ill, then yes, its fair to keep the money*.

                *Although these circumstances sound a bit too much like the Haughey Lenihan episode for my liking....

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                • Sheridan
                  Seasoned Pro
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 2660

                  #23
                  ORA, the Danny Drew situation shows that the FAI are willing and able to make interventions in these matters.

                  don ramo - What's the point in handing over money if the same situation is going to arise in a month? I doubt half of those who contributed would have done so if they thought they were padding a slush fund which could be wasted by the club.
                  A leading authority on League of Ireland football since 2003. You're probably wrong.

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                  • Longfordian
                    Coach
                    • May 2002
                    • 9227

                    #24
                    They were never asked by all accounts. When they were set up it was decided that any request for money would have to be in writing and would have to be considered by the members. Only one man knows why they were never asked.
                    The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand..

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                    • Mr A
                      Like the Fonz. Only a dog.
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 11584

                      #25
                      Originally posted by don ramo
                      well as far as i could see they were set up by the fans to help raise funds for Cork City FC, yet they didnt hand over a single cent to help teh club out,

                      am i the only person who sees a problem with that, irrelevent if coughlan is in charge that money was riased with the purpose of helping CCFC,

                      if they set up in the A League fair enough

                      think of it this way of someone raisied 200k for an operation that cost 400k, would you think it fair he keep the money cause its not enough??,
                      Bloody hell, no wonder Cobh are so fecked! The central point is that throwing good money after bad doesn't help anything. The responsibility is Coughlan's and his alone.
                      #NeverStopNotGivingUp

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                      • Lilywhite Army
                        Apprentice
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 53

                        #26
                        Anyone realise if the points of previous games are made void Pats will be last with only 17 points
                        2014 Airtricity League Champions

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                        • Longfordian
                          Coach
                          • May 2002
                          • 9227

                          #27
                          Yep and in relation to the FAI he's probably even less popular with them than Danny Drew was apparently.
                          The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand..

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                          • Blue-Army
                            Reserves
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 278

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Lilywhite Army
                            Anyone realise if the points of previous games are made void Pats will be last with only 17 points
                            yeah...but will Cork take up a 'relegation' place or what?

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                            • adamd164
                              First Team
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 2345

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Blue-Army
                              yeah...but will Cork take up a 'relegation' place or what?
                              Games will only be made void if we are wound up: as in finished. Ala Dublin City. So no relegation place.

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                              • celticV3
                                Reserves
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 541

                                #30
                                Is it fact that FORAS are withholding funds?

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